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That would be actually pretty cool. Maybe when PSVR2 gets released and Valve releases Alyx there they'll get a partnership or something.
Sure it could. It depends who your're talking to. When I buy a PlayStation, part of the value comes from the fact that I now have access to great games that I do not have access to elsewhere. If those games are available on other platforms with superior versions, that's a direct reduction of value from my standpoint.
the guy said that there are 40 million player right now that already have a poweful PC, I replied that if that was true none of them would play FIFA or COD (for example) on PS, since they could buy them at a lower price and play them with better settings and with free online
Yes TW3 (that still sold more on PS4 in the first year) is one of the exceptions (in the AAA market) that sell more on PC (you can count BGS games for sure), but PS is a much more popular platform overall.
The majority of people will never build their own PC or buy an overpriced pre-built one instead of a PS, only streaming can change that, but that has nothing to do with actual PC ports
I think Sony still needs to incentivise people to use the PS5 as their main console and buy their third party games there. A delay of only one year makes it too easy for people to say "I'm just gonna buy a 400$ graphics card and then I can play Xbox games and PC exclusives too".
I'd bet we'll see 2-3 years and super prestige titles like the Naughty Dog games will never be on PC or only after a very long time.
That being said, I am with you that the quality of the ports needs to be better if they want to sell them at full price at a time when the PS version has dropped to under 20 bucks. They should consider how hard it will be to port a game when they build/modify their first party game engines already.
Both of you seem to think that PC players would buy a PS assuming the PS exclusive games are good enough.
I find that idea hard to believe. With most PC players playing at 1080p and having GPUs that cost 100-200€ i don't believe they would be willing to "waste" 200-400€ on a console + the online subscription. Both of you seem to be thinking that despite most PC players not being able to afford a good GPU and/or a >1440p monitor that somehow would be able to afford and buy a piece of hardware + subscription to just play a handful of games yet won't do so for their main platform.
The way i see it the players that buy PC and consoles are very few in number. For example less that 10% of steam users play above 1080p. Only 2% play at 4k. Only these users could affor to buy a console. Even than how many of these 10% of players would buy a console? like 1440p users (6%) won't/can't buy a 4k screen yet could they really afford a console + subscription?
The way i see it most of the current PC market (>90% of steam users) can't afford/won't buy a console. Yet they still could be paying for the sony games assuming sony can out-hype or/and have a good product VS the PC competition. Lastly a PC version is "forever" and sony can keep selling their catologue "indefinitely" having some constant money stream.
Obviously Sony is probably too big to get a porting studio/teach their staff ready in 1 year but IMO not releasing at the same time on PC and console is wasting the already great marketing that sony already does. If SOny can get their hype to work not only on console but on PC sony can easily push a lot of software, specially on PC side where great WoM can make a game sell for a long time.
A bit off topic, Frag Waffles ; personally your comment is extremely distasteful and, IMO, offensive. If a product values is depend on depriving others of their access is, IMO, extremely mean and in many cases harmful to the poorer society members. I can't imagine how you feel you are better served because some company restricts acess to a product instead of the company making their product better than the competition.
I'll be blunt and say you are going into my ignore list. I find it distasteful that you prefer to gate poor people out of an ecosystem so you can have better value/more fun. If PS isn't worthwhile to you without exclusives maybe the problem is the hardware? not the lack of exclusives?
You shouldn't take to Steam hardware survey so seriously. It's opt in and most people don't opt in anything these days. The 4k number is way off since the Steam survey won't detect a 4k TV unless it's your main display.
Actually this isn't my assumption at all. I'm saying that Sony knows there is a demographic of gamers that won't buy their consoles and are fine with that. My argument wasn't against Sony porting games but that they will NOT be porting their exclusives Day 1 with PC by next year. I stand by that argument.
misread what you said. I thought you said sony wouldn't port day 1 ever. My bad. I apologize for the misunderstanding .
Maybe i'm wrong but i don't think that the numbers would be that far from the mark that we can just dismiss the survey. The most played video games on PC usually all have low specs required.
Do you think most football manager players have 4k screens and >2070 GPUs? i doubt that. but i think sony can grab some of them if their games are on PC, specially with steam refund policies where you can try a game and if it doesn't run well you can refund it.
This seems hilariously silly right now. They haven't been transparent about the platforms because it's a first party game and they've only shown a teaser, lol.
It's a system seller. No shot it launches on PC day 1.
If my eyes rolled any harder they'd fall out the back of my head.
If ps5 sells well, there will still be a ps6 I am sure, no matter what.
Ps7 though, we cant predict that far ahead.
I think you just misunderstood my post.
I would typically prefer to see more games across as many platforms as possible. The more options the better.
Sounds like you should be taking out your frustrations on console manufacturers. They create exclusive games to enhance the console value proposition to us, the consumer. Their entire objective is that we see the value in that.
PlayStation exclusives are console sellers. Sony is paying for third party exclusives too, timed or otherwise. GOW2 on PC day one is simply not happening. 1-3 years later, it may happen.
But older games like Bloodborne and anything pre-2018, I could see them hitting PC soon enough.
1st thing that came to my mind, Sony doing random shit that they wont really commit to maybe.
Sony released one ok PC port with little marketing. So wow, they must really be going all in then.
This is already thinking of it entirely wrong. Many people on the low end also have consoles. My PC is an i5 6600k, 1050ti, 16gb of ram. I use a 1080p/60hz monitor. I buy consoles and play on PC.
People on the lower end are more likely to buy consoles over high end because they care less about the extreme top end and what PC can do over consoles.
as a consumer, the only reason to not want sonys games on pc is for "mah exclusives doe!!"
it would be a great thing.
it would be a great thing.
Theyre gonna announce Bloodborne for PC, and with it the next gen patch for BB which will bring dynamic 4K 60FPS. PC will receive all the same enhancements. Patch will release in Q1 2021 and Bloodborne PC in the Summer. Thats my bet.
Edit: And itll be exclusive to the EGS for 6 months.
Edit: And itll be exclusive to the EGS for 6 months.
Ahh yes, the PC userbase, who famously never upgrade their hardware for new games.
What the hell kind of take is this?
I spend a bunch of money on my PC and I'm not about to purchase a Playstation unless I run out of things to play on PC . . . which, I won't.
There's a small selection of Playstation exclusives I'd play, if they were available, and a couple that I would buy day one if they were put on PC. Not enough for me to buy the console when my PC backlog is already so massive, but a few that I would purchase if they were available.
There's plenty of other PC gamers out there like me.
What value do you get from us not having access to those games?
They're Sony's games and they obviously call the shots. I'm not upset if they choose not to put them on PC. However if they look at it and find it's a money making opportunity and decide to put them on PC that would be better for you because it means they're making more money that they can then invest into more studios and more games.
EDIT: Thinking more about it. I have a brother who would buy Bloodborne day one. I have another brother that will definitely be checking out MLB The Show when that hits other platforms. I have a friend who bought Detroit Become Human day one on PC. They're all budget PC gamers who aren't about to run out and buy any console. It's a big market.
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People need to chill out and treat Sony ports on PC as pleasant surprises rather than inevitabilities. Then you avoid being disappointed.
I say this as someone who pre-ordered HZD on Steam and played for nearly 150 hours over 2 months to 100% it. I would appreciate an opportunity to play more Sony games on PC; I'm not gonna complain if it doesn't happen, cause there's far too many games to play anyway. I liked the world and gameplay of Horizon enough that if Forbidden West reviews well, I'd be eager to play a PC port; but I'm not gonna invest in a console and a TV to play it.
Sony's gonna do the math; a bunch of insiders have been saying that Horizon is just the beginning.; we'll see--that's all there is to it. Don't over-hype yourself, plenty of stuff to play in the meantime.
I say this as someone who pre-ordered HZD on Steam and played for nearly 150 hours over 2 months to 100% it. I would appreciate an opportunity to play more Sony games on PC; I'm not gonna complain if it doesn't happen, cause there's far too many games to play anyway. I liked the world and gameplay of Horizon enough that if Forbidden West reviews well, I'd be eager to play a PC port; but I'm not gonna invest in a console and a TV to play it.
Sony's gonna do the math; a bunch of insiders have been saying that Horizon is just the beginning.; we'll see--that's all there is to it. Don't over-hype yourself, plenty of stuff to play in the meantime.
This is actually a great idea Gravity Rush on PC would be perfect, can imagine the modding possibilities etc
I don't see Sony making Gravity Rush 3 after the sales of 2 which wasn't great and Japan Studios apparently rumoured to work on other games inc director of Gravity Rush
So putting both Gravity Rush games on PC would give the IP life
You must be one of those people who prays for Sony to make studio acquisitions, just because others can't have the stuff anymore.
How badly did the Zenimax deal hurt your soul?
Nope. Never said anything like this. Maybe understand the context of my original reply, or see #118 for more!
Maybe you express your view poorly, as evidenced by the number of people who took it the exact way I did.
You literally said your Playstation feels less valuable if PC players have access to the games, because they'll play better, then in the follow up post said we should blame the manufacturers for creating that exclusive game value proposition in your mind.
Do I really need to quote and bold the sections of your posts which contain those very words for you? I don't think so because others already have.
I'll be honest, I stopped playing Gravity Rush on Vita because the whole time, I couldn't stop thinking "this camera control would be a whole lot better with a mouse".
I would totally get it on PC.
If Sony consistently releases all their games on PC, that's that for Sony and Xbox consoles and then it's just PC and Nintendo for me.