PlayStation: Mark Cerny will provide a deep dive into PS5’s system architecture tomorrow at 9am PT

ObbyDent · Mar 17, 2020

Jaypah said:
Very simple basic math? PlayStation has handedly outsold Xbox around the world. Surely you've at some point seen this sales discrepancy mentioned. So if we take that as fact, then we can probably assume there are a lot more PS fans. More fans means a larger pool of people to potentially "like" a particular post on social media. And here we are.

I totally don't understand why social media differences keep being brought up when there's a clear difference in popularity between the 2 consoles. I'm lying, I do know why lol.

I don't know what you're implying. These tweets are on the English Twitter where Xbox is far more popular than the other markets, so I didn't think the difference would be that big. Not to mention that Xbox is the only one, up to this point, showing anything off. Which I thought meant higher social media numbers.

But go off, champ. Tell me how I feel

DvdGzz · Mar 17, 2020

Where is that PS fan who said that showing off anything during this pandemic is the worst thing they could do. Bet he changed his mind real quick.

Zedark · Mar 17, 2020

Nice, about time we hear some juicy details about this machine! Hopefully it's a beast just like the XSX is, and offers impressive features like multi-resume as well!

Lua · Mar 17, 2020

I love to see people who never even touched any computer achitecture material talk about teraflops as if they were anime power level benchmarks. It's one of my favorite things in gamer universe.

Even the semantics of implying teraflops=power is wrong.

henhowc · Mar 17, 2020

GamingCJ said:
The fact that he wrote a 'lol' behind 'teraflops' means it's abviously more than that.
What's the next step over teraflops?

13 triceratops

modiz · Mar 17, 2020

zombiejames said:

This is so hype

Deleted member 45130 · Mar 17, 2020

Looking forward to the reveal tomorrow. At this point though, we get what kind of spec it is likely to be and now I just need to know what games are coming and the price so I can start to think about where I want to play next gen.

Hawk269 · Mar 17, 2020

Cyberia said:
A good moment to bring this up again:

The best PS5 features still haven't been announced, according to PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan

"We haven’t announced the bigger differences yet""

www.gamesradar.com

Outside of the GPU/CPU/Memory/Memory Bandwidth, which all have improved from one gen to the next...the other one that also has improved but not that drastically is the SSD and the tech they have in that. I think they do have some special stuff in the system and from everything I have read the SSD speed they have is going to be best in class imho. Not sure what other "special" things it could have, but I think it is going to be one of the big things Cerny focuses on tomorrow.

Castia · Mar 17, 2020

Think we'll see an actual shot of the console and pad?

Midas · Mar 17, 2020

Castia said:
Think we'll see an actual shot of the console and pad?

No.

2CL4Mars · Mar 17, 2020

OG_Thrills said:
For all you doom and gloomers acting like SIE is in trouble because they didn't tweet mindless PR when you wanted them to. We been keeping the receipts!!!

WOW....that means....that means..............

Nothing

Fisty · Mar 17, 2020

I would laugh my ass off if Cerny demos Star Citizen tomorrow

iksenpets · Mar 17, 2020

zombiejames said:

It's weird because MS seemed really confident around the specs, and all the Sony leaks were pretty negative, but doing this days after the glowing XSX spec write up would definitely suggest confidence on Sony's part too. Interested to see what this is.

Femto0 · Mar 17, 2020

But will it also make coffee?

El-Pistolero · Mar 17, 2020

DrDeckard said:
I think the ps5 will be more powerful and microsoft wanted to get ahead and control the messaging around the cool stuff with the software, including back compatibility etc. So while Sony have the power, when they show off their back compatibility and system resume people will naturally think ms shower that stuff first.

But I think the consoles will be very close, weve already had arguments that 3 tf difference is nothing. If it's a 1tf difference it will be difficult to even see the difference, especially with variable frame rate tvs.

MS were able to cramp that much power because they have had the intention of releasing an affordable platform alongside the main one. Sony is not going that route, so they simply can not compete on that front. It is not a matter of them not being able to produce a better performing console; Rather, they need to strike a balance between cost and performance.

chefbags · Mar 17, 2020

Greebman said:
5 PM. Gonna be close getting home and getting the bath tub filled

I hope Sony has crazy raytracing tech from the future

To you 2000 years from now...

And then this song plays lol

Iwao · Mar 17, 2020

jschreier said:
I can confirm that this Cerny thing has been in the works for a bit. They had been planning to do a PS5 thing at GDC. Also, soon we'll have confirmation of what I've been saying all along -- that both of these machines are extremely powerful -- and then maybe everyone here will stop tagging me in all these dumb next-gen console rumor posts. Teraflops be damned

zombiejames said:

SCOOPS and HYPE!!

Tiago Rodrigues said:
What i've been saying for months.

Yup, teraflops will not dictate much this generation when the realistic GPU difference is going to be something around 1TF or within 10% of one another, and like Jason said, that's just boring to talk about when there's far more at play from both console manufacturers this time.

dmix90 said:
Let's be honest here. Microsoft are not that good at hype build-up and marketing, but their products are generally great.

Microsoft are using very american style of advertising which is not subtle at all and in your face which might be a bit off putting. I don't know how to explain it better, but just compare typical MS show and Sony shows and you will see the difference.

It's not just that. It's that Xbox doesn't have as big or loyal an audience, and they have not put the measures in place to become a globally relevant brand. No amount of good will and PR is going to get them there unless Xbox had the same journey in the industry as PlayStation did.

Xbox FanFest · Mar 17, 2020

Seeing those post and those tweets. I like where this is going.

TLT GAMING · Mar 17, 2020

If it is more powerful this thing ain't going to be cheap.

Fisty · Mar 17, 2020

El-Pistolero said:
MS were able to cramp that much power because they have had the intention of releasing an affordable platform alongside the main one. Sony is not going that route, so they simply can not compete on that front. It is not a matter of them not being able to produce a better performing console; Rather, they need to strike a balance between cost and performance.

Tbf you don't know if any of what you just said is true or not

CaptNink · Mar 17, 2020

It better be shaped like a Frigidaire or no deal.

El-Pistolero · Mar 17, 2020

funky said:
Would guess this was originally going to happen at GDC and then shit happened.

Yeah, confirmed as such.

Iucidium · Mar 17, 2020

Gordon's Tulpa said:
A welcome distraction from our current predicament

A-greed

Simon-chan · Mar 17, 2020

RedHeat said:

BAD · Mar 17, 2020

janusff said:
jason bringing the hype

and destroying fanboys at the same time. what a ledge

this doesn't reveal anything... we have no evidence that one system will have black magic techniques the other doesn't that will make the weaker TF one out-perform the other. these tweets aren't doing anything to actually prove that the TF aren't going to count.

For all we know, the two systems are going to have similar tricks for SSDs and ray tracing etc, but one will have more TF and there's no evidence to suggest that it won't be the performance differentiator right now.

I guess I don't get people gleaning big info from people offering vague excitement tweets

Deleted member 56752 · Mar 17, 2020

Iwao said:
SCOOPS and HYPE!!

Yup, teraflops will not dictate much this generation when the realistic GPU difference is going to be something around 1TF or within 10% of one another, and like Jason said, that's just boring to talk about when there's far more at play from both console manufacturers this time.

It's not just that. It's that Xbox doesn't have as big or loyal an audience, and they have not put the measures in place to become a globally relevant brand. No amount of good will and PR is going to get them there unless Xbox had the same journey in the industry as PlayStation did.

Yeah. I agree

El-Pistolero · Mar 17, 2020

Fisty said:
Tbf you don't know any of what you just said is true or not

I am not in the know, but it just seems natural and logical to me...

fossi8 · Mar 17, 2020

Im so happy for all the people that owns the 3 consoles.

Deleted member 30987 · Mar 17, 2020

Femto0 said:
But will it also make coffee?

I already have a coffee machine. Pretty good one. Give me games !!!

Deleted member 29857 · Mar 17, 2020

iksenpets said:
It's weird because MS seemed really confident around the specs, and all the Sony leaks were pretty negative, but doing this days after the glowing XSX spec write up would definitely suggest confidence on Sony's part too. Interested to see what this is.

I think Microsoft has the raw TF crown, but Sony did some RT magic.

Heretic · Mar 17, 2020

With the world in the midst of a horrible pandemic, trying to reveal your new gaming hardware is currently incredibly foolish and shortsighted.

Memento · Mar 17, 2020

El-Pistolero said:
MS were able to cramp that much power because they have had the intention of releasing an affordable platform alongside the main one. Sony is not going that route, so they simply can not compete on that front. It is not a matter of them not being able to produce a better performing console; Rather, they need to strike a balance between cost and performance.

This makes no sense unless you think Series X is going to cost more than $499, which would be a really stupid decision by Microsoft

Both will be $499

Shock32 · Mar 17, 2020

RedHeat said:

All PlayStation generations BC would be exciting hardware in the past 20 years.

Apathy · Mar 17, 2020

Monster Zero said:
Pretty simple to comprehend. A day after the big blow out by Xbox, Sony announcing they're showing off their system tomorrow. What do you think that would look like to someone with no knowledge of what's being planned behind the scenes.

Again, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think that they could even put something like this together in this short amount of time, just from a logistical perspective.

DriftingSpirit · Mar 17, 2020

Shock32 said:
All PlayStation generations BC would be exciting hardware in the past 20 years.

PS1-PS4 and PSP/Vita BC.

Believe.

Manmademan · Mar 17, 2020

ObbyDent said:
I don't know what you're implying. These tweets are on the English Twitter where Xbox is far more popular than the other markets, so I didn't think the difference would be that big. Not to mention that Xbox is the only one, up to this point, showing anything off. Which I thought meant higher social media numbers.

But go off, champ. Tell me how I feel

There are also a lot of people fluent in English in Europe, where Sony is overwhelmingly dominant.

nib95 · Mar 17, 2020

2CL4Mars said:
WOW....that means....that means..............

Nothing

It means there's far more social media interest in the PS5 than there is the Xbox Series X. Whether that translates in to far more sales or not, remains to be seen, though I'd imagine both systems sell out at launch.

Eeyore · Mar 17, 2020

Heretic said:
With the world in the midst of a horrible pandemic, trying to reveal your new gaming hardware is currently incredibly foolish and shortsighted.

They aren't holding a live conference in a theater with a bunch of people ignoring safety protocols so I'm not sure I understand this.

McFly · Mar 17, 2020

RedHeat said:

And just like that, the expectations have been set so high, anything less than 14TF will be a disappointment to some. SMH

TLT GAMING · Mar 17, 2020

ObbyDent said:
I don't know what you're implying. These tweets are on the English Twitter where Xbox is far more popular than the other markets, so I didn't think the difference would be that big. Not to mention that Xbox is the only one, up to this point, showing anything off. Which I thought meant higher social media numbers.

But go off, champ. Tell me how I feel

What is there to understand? The Playstation has a far bigger userbase so it generates more chatter. Simple. Language has NOTHING to do with it. People see the Playstation symbol/logo and react.
Why is this still a conversation?

litebrite · Mar 17, 2020

As s primary Xbox player who's getting a XSX, I'm interested to hear the PS5 specs, but tbh I'm more interested in hearing about BC on PS5 and will it cover more than just PS4 games and if they will be enhanced beyond playing at their optimum resolution and framerate they were coded at. I haven't had a PlayStation since PS2 and will likely get a PS5 to play PS5 and PS4 exclusives. Would love to PS3 exclusives as well but I doubt they'll have BC for it.

dreamfall · Mar 17, 2020

It'll be so nice to see how they're approaching next gen finally!

Rodrigues solitaire · Mar 17, 2020

Eeyore said:
They aren't holding a live conference in a theater with a bunch of people ignoring safety protocols so I'm not sure I understand this.

It's a joke post, that same post was posted yesterday in a XSX thread.

STech · Mar 17, 2020

Holy shit, guys... holy shit.

Btw, where is Antonio Banderas?

I mean, where is Antonio Banderas???

Hawk269 · Mar 17, 2020

OG_Thrills said:
For all you doom and gloomers acting like SIE is in trouble because they didn't tweet mindless PR when you wanted them to. We been keeping the receipts!!!

Why is this shocking to anyone? PS4 and PS in general is a much bigger World Wide brand than Xbox is. Sales alone of the PS4 vs. Xbox One is massive in favor of the PS4. Of course a tweet about this announcement is going to get more traction. Hell, even the showing of the PS5 logo was massive and that was a fucking logo.

Jeffram · Mar 17, 2020

Heretic said:
With the world in the midst of a horrible pandemic, trying to reveal your new gaming hardware is currently incredibly foolish and shortsighted.

No fun allowed.

It's GDC week, all the specs are probably going out to large and indy developers. It's either this or have it all leaked in an uncontrolled way.

shinobi602 · Mar 17, 2020

Monster Zero said:
Seems like a kneejerk reaction.

Lol. Nah.

Deleted member 198 · Mar 17, 2020

Lua said:
I love to see people who never even touched any computer achitecture material talk about teraflops as if they were anime power level benchmarks. It's one of my favorite things in gamer universe.

Even the semantics of implying teraflops=power is wrong.

This was inevitable when this generation started with people scrunching and comparing resolution numbers.

Zedark · Mar 17, 2020

jschreier said:
I can confirm that this Cerny thing has been in the works for a bit. They had been planning to do a PS5 thing at GDC. Also, soon we'll have confirmation of what I've been saying all along -- that both of these machines are extremely powerful -- and then maybe everyone here will stop tagging me in all these dumb next-gen console rumor posts. Teraflops be damned

Yeah, but what if my machine of choice is 0.2 TFLOPS weaker? How will I survive?

Banamy · Mar 17, 2020

What if I told you that both sony and microsoft employ world class architects to build systems that maximize efficiency for a certain price point.

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