People are okay to think Sony is overreacting but they're the ones overreacting with conspiracy theories.
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PlayStation cancels planned PAX East appearance due to increasing concerns related to Coronavirus [See Staff Post]
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While, yes, the original wording was not exactly elegantly written, people were very clearly choosing to read a more negative take on the post when it was very clearly intended to just be "don't be fucking assholes to each other".
So should we shut everything down every flu season? After all it killed an estimated 14k people this year IN THE US ALONE low balling the estimate.
I get why Sony took the precautions and I respect them protecting their employees. I also don't want everyone shutting the fuck down every time a health scare comes along.
People need to calm the fuck down. The dangers of COVID-19, perceived or actual, are not an excuse for all rationality to be thrown out the window on either side and for people to personally insult others.
Sony was well within their rights to withdraw from PAX East. I hope (and personally believe) they used a decision-making process that was rational and supported by sound evidence and one that took into account the wishes of their employees. Even if it might be an overreaction, as long as the company made the decision fairly, I respect them for it.
I also have concerns about the inevitable domino effect Sony's move will have on people's perceptions of COVID-19. If a large company makes an important decision based on unsupported science or misinterpreting information from the WHO or any other organization, that will have negative social consequences as well (as xenophobic reactions have shown). I choose to believe Sony made this in good faith but the potential consequences are worth mentioning.
Sony was well within their rights to withdraw from PAX East. I hope (and personally believe) they used a decision-making process that was rational and supported by sound evidence and one that took into account the wishes of their employees. Even if it might be an overreaction, as long as the company made the decision fairly, I respect them for it.
I also have concerns about the inevitable domino effect Sony's move will have on people's perceptions of COVID-19. If a large company makes an important decision based on unsupported science or misinterpreting information from the WHO or any other organization, that will have negative social consequences as well (as xenophobic reactions have shown). I choose to believe Sony made this in good faith but the potential consequences are worth mentioning.
I appreciate the work the mods do on Gaming side considering how much hostility and toxic behavior is pervasive here on an hourly basis. It's basically a fulltime job. Thank you for the staff post, which there's nothing wrong with whatsoever
I dont think you are helping the conversation by being smug about things, to be honest.
I mean, we recently had several major companies cancelling their plans to attend the Mobile World Congress at Barcelona, I don't see how this is any different.
I honestly don't know enough about the situation or the virus to be able to form an opinion, so I came here to read the discussion so I could make up my mind, but that was pointless because people are losing their minds over the mod post for some reason
That said, apparently it was edited, and I don't know what the pre edited mod post said, so maybe it was worth getting upset over. The post at it stands seems reasonable to me. Discuss things and don't attack people is a good rule for a forum, or so i thought anyway
There are still people quoting the edited staff post willfully misrepresenting what the mods are saying so they can join the dogpile. Check just a few posts above yours.
lol and even still.
Y'all really need to stop with the comparisons. It doesn't add anything to the conversation and we stopped doing that in the main thread a long time ago.
In the grand scheme of things, this isn't a big deal.
Be a bit more mature than this, come on now.
Be a bit more mature than this, come on now.
No, but you should take reasonable precautions. Now, if you wanted to stay in your house all flu season, well that would be your prerogative, just like it is sony's prerogative to not attend this event. It is a large gathering of people where illnesses can spread easy (think of all the people handling controllers, the international traveling, and the long incubation period of this virus where people may not be symptomatic), so they had to weigh if taking the hit to their business was worth it. In this instance they chose to put their employees first and not force anyone to go.
Yeah I think Sony is overreacting, but I also don't think it's a big deal.
though Honestly if someone with Corona virus actually did attend a big convention like this it'd be such a disaster that I'm not sure whether you go or not would make much of a difference since it would almost certainly lead to several major outbreaks. The fact that cons like this are still allowed to run right now despite this should show us that the chances of that happening are really low
I'm fucking done with the consistently asinine moderation of this site.
Some people in the thread were (I believe unfairly) comparing the staff post and defences of it to anti-vax thinking. I think the poster you were responding to was just on that topic.
Thinking that there is room for judgement in whether or not to exceed recommended health precautions isn't anti-vax.
A bit of an overreaction. Could cut back on floor interactions, turn away those with cold symptoms at demo stations, and other means. The risk is obviously there still, but the chances are quite slim of an outbreak there.
Seems mostly people being triggered by the 'both sides' framing, even though it's a different situation than the usual issues involved. Telling that those extremes (anti-vaxxers) are being brought in by others responding to that post than anything it was addressing is telling. This is easily the dumbest meltdown I've seen from the community, and I remember the Twilight Princess review thread.
It's fair to call someone out on misinformation, but this is the tone you want to set after the OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION ?
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.
View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.
There are cases in the US, and CDC seems to have given recommendations and that is probably one of the reasons MWC was cancelled. And everything started when a single company announced that wasn't attending it. Then the others followed.
But let's pretend nothing happens, and when we have the virus all over the world, and people die, we will see who we blame.
Also there are approximately 75'000 confirmed cases.
Obviously there will be other cases which haven't been confirmed yet but saying it has infected "hundreds of thousands" is alarmist.
Part of the problem is that, right now, the WHO defers risk assessment to people and companies individually. It's up to you to assess the risk. Obviously some people/companies will be more or less risk averse in these circumstances than others, so you'll have varying responses. I mean, actually, maybe this isn't a problem per se, but it's just how it is. I'm not sure there's an objectively right or wrong answer here. I doubt in cases like this the decision to either press ahead, or withdraw from something is taken lightly, though, and I'm sure it's done in good faith. No-one would go into a decision process like that wanting to disrupt plans... if Sony didn't want to attend PAX for other reasons, I'm sure they'd have no problem saying so (see: E3).
I don't feel all that bad about Pax missing out on a playable TLOU2 demo. I'm getting my dose of post apocalyptic manhunts in this thread.
The MWC was canceled all together. Guess they are also overracting.
This sure seems like the way to present yourself......
I am out! lol this is one of the reasons why I'm staying out of most threads...
To be fair, at the point the MWC was canceled, were there really any major participants left?
The mobile market is a lot more dependent on China.Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.
View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.www.cdc.gov
There are cases in the US, and CDC seems to have given recommendations and that is probably one of the reasons MWC was cancelled. And everything started when a single company announced that wasn't attending it. Then the others followed.
But let's pretend nothing happens, and when we have the virus all over the world, and people die, we will see who we blame.
As far as CDC recommendations go, basically do everything you would do for the flu. Avoid non-essential travel from China. Don't travel if you are sick, and go to the Doctor if you are sick after traveling.
There are an incredibly small number of cases in the US which are already being quarantined. The restrictions on travel and limitations placed on people who might be at risk make it highly unlikely that you'll randomly Run into someone carrying the disease over here. A lot of care is being done to prevent an outbreak in the US and if the risk was enough to really merit concern the CDC would start recommending against gatherings like this in the first place which they aren't doing at the momentCoronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.
View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.
There are cases in the US, and CDC seems to have given recommendations and that is probably one of the reasons MWC was cancelled. And everything started when a single company announced that wasn't attending it. Then the others followed.
But let's pretend nothing happens, and when we have the virus all over the world, and people die, we will see who we blame.
Question: why would they be making excuses for PS5 at a show where they were never going to show the PS5?
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The convention center is practically around the corner from Chinatown, but yeah... Sucks for people who were going to PAX for Sony's stuff.
I probably would've bought a last minute ticket for a chance to play LOU2.
Now? I'm a big maybe.
Wasn't there a PAX in the past where someone with swine flu spread it to those on the showfloor?
I get that the COVID-19 isn't as wide spread here, but I don't blame them for being cautious. Some people refuse to stay home sick against their better judgement.
I get that the COVID-19 isn't as wide spread here, but I don't blame them for being cautious. Some people refuse to stay home sick against their better judgement.
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