This is just an excuse because they aren't ready to speak about the ps5. MightAs well Blame it on Corona!
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PlayStation cancels planned PAX East appearance due to increasing concerns related to Coronavirus [See Staff Post]
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"People are free to believe that vaccines don't work and are bad, just like people are free to believe that vaccines do work!"
Fucking terrible, my god. There's a global pandemic and Sony exercises reasonable caution, and people piss their pants over some fucking video games, when Sony themselves are the ones losing the most from this.
The entitlement of people is off the fucking charts. Seeing responses in threads like this, it's no fucking wonder someone like Donald John Trump is the fucking President of the United States. Of course he is! Technology is destroying our brains and ability to think rationally, responses in this thread is all you need to see.
There are plenty of great, intelligent posters in this thread and on this forum, it's a big reason I love this place. But there's also a ton of horrible, dangerous people present too it seems...
Fucking terrible, my god. There's a global pandemic and Sony exercises reasonable caution, and people piss their pants over some fucking video games, when Sony themselves are the ones losing the most from this.
The entitlement of people is off the fucking charts. Seeing responses in threads like this, it's no fucking wonder someone like Donald John Trump is the fucking President of the United States. Of course he is! Technology is destroying our brains and ability to think rationally, responses in this thread is all you need to see.
There are plenty of great, intelligent posters in this thread and on this forum, it's a big reason I love this place. But there's also a ton of horrible, dangerous people present too it seems...
People are allowed to believe that a global health emergency is an overreaction.
Enough era for today
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Just curious... I am kinda outta the loop recently. Why do you say that?
But is it our place to judge, harshly in some cases, as necessary or unnecessary something that has no material impact on our lives? Sure, games are a valid hobby/something folks are really, really into, and have made differences in people's lives, but saying that they (Sony) deserve to be mocked and defending it for what is essentially putting safety first is just plain wrong.
The argument that Sony's bowing out of this event is irrational is backed up by the fact that no other companies are backing out of the same event and almost no one in the U.S is even concerning themselves with this virus right now.
Trying to argue that Sony is being reasonable is also arguing that everyone else attending conferences all over the U.S every single day is being unreasonable.
Trying to argue that Sony is being reasonable is also arguing that everyone else attending conferences all over the U.S every single day is being unreasonable.
The staff post is bad because it essentially gives validation to the insanely stupid conspiracy theories laid out in some of the post in the first few pages. It's not a "belief" to think that people deserve to be mocked because they chose to prioritize health over work, it's just being an asshole.
That being said I do think it's a bit overreacting to cancel their entire presence instead of like maybe limiting the amount of staff/space you'll hold there. Tons of other publishers with a global workforce will be present and dont consider that theres a real risk of infection with how they've prepared their plans. But like, there's never anything wrong with being overly safe. It's not like they chose it out of comfort, they probably lost a lot of money with this decision.
That being said I do think it's a bit overreacting to cancel their entire presence instead of like maybe limiting the amount of staff/space you'll hold there. Tons of other publishers with a global workforce will be present and dont consider that theres a real risk of infection with how they've prepared their plans. But like, there's never anything wrong with being overly safe. It's not like they chose it out of comfort, they probably lost a lot of money with this decision.
And these are the kinds of posts we're endorsing thanks to the "Official Staff Post."
Hub for intelligent discussion, clearly.
Respectfully, if the post was written plainly, I don't think it would be getting the reaction that it has.
That seems to be the reaction with how everyone is aghast at the possibility that someone is allowed to disagree with the logic behind Sony's decision to pull out.
What are you, 12?
Here here!
That's a good analogy actually, VERY few people die in hurricanes in the USA but apparently Sony should be fine with sending employees right into the cone for a marketing event
This has fuck all to do with PS5 since it was never going to be there anyway.
Yuuuup. I work in the medical field and this is 100% unnecessary. The disease isn't even classified as pandemic yet, meaning it's still considered localized.
You know what's funny? THIS:
Is exactly some of the arguments anti-vaxxers use. I guess we will start accepting them in this place?
Containing the outbreak is more important than demos or impressions. Sheesh.
Exactly.
Because we all know that Alcohol and Cars are in fact much more dangerous.
Putting their workforce's health first isn't fearmongering or bad science, jesus christ.
Better safe than sorry,...but I still feel that the paranoia level is too high.
I hope Sony does also apply the same precaution for employees travelling, since airports are way more dangerous than the PAX.
Also subways, malls etc there's no 0% risk anyways. This is why the line between cautious and paranoiac is quite thin.
I hope Sony does also apply the same precaution for employees travelling, since airports are way more dangerous than the PAX.
Also subways, malls etc there's no 0% risk anyways. This is why the line between cautious and paranoiac is quite thin.
What bad science? We're dealing with a global outbreak with the virus that hasn't been fully understood yet. Researches are still being experimenting but people are already dying. Any precaution regarding this crisis is fully justified.
Here's how I'm looking at it: it's not like a meeting of the g7 or something, it's just a games convention. Little is lost here except for people who bought tickets, and I agree it does suck for them especially if they can't get refunds. I feel like we should be happy that a company is being proactive and putting people before profits. Most of the pushback seems to amount to people saying "it's not that bad" and not caring at all about the employees which to me really sucks, it's almost like people think they should be forced to go.
Feels like a slight overreaction to me. I agree that you need to be careful, but given the current situation I think it'd be sufficient to just prevent people who had recently been to China (or around someone who had done so recently) from going, maybe if you want to be extra cautious extend it to people who'd been to some of the surrounding countries (notably Japan in this case)
unless there were enough of these people who needed to be involved I think attending without them would still have been fine
that said it's not a big deal and there will be other events in the future
unless there were enough of these people who needed to be involved I think attending without them would still have been fine
that said it's not a big deal and there will be other events in the future
Overreaction but being on the safe side isn't really a big deal. Then again I don't really care for PAX outside of indie stuff.
Sony probably don't want to risk all their important dev team people meeting up in one place and all getting sick.
Are they the only company doing this so far?
Sony probably don't want to risk all their important dev team people meeting up in one place and all getting sick.
Are they the only company doing this so far?
I guess it bears repeating:
A Global Health Emergency doesn't mean what you think it means. It doesn't mean that there is now a virus that will destroy the world. There has been a Global Health Emergency going on since 2018 . Were you afraid to leave the house? Did you want companies to bow out of conventions?
The official word is that this is a Global Health Emergency. The official word is ALSO that the dangers for the American Public are "low". This doesn't contradict each other. And this is why some people think this is an overreaction. Not the Global Health Emergency is the overreaction. People's reaction to the Global Health Emergency is the overreation, because the media absolutely failed at explaining what that actually means (and doesn't mean).
Somethings are real hard to Xplain man
How does this indicate ANYTHING regarding the PS5? What internal turmoil? lol
I think I worded that poorly and need to clarify: Sony appearing at Pax East is the thing that is unnecessary.
Pretty sure Corona Virus wasn't an epidemic with thousands of deaths in early January when CES happened.
Also Imram already stated that Sony is worried for GDC, so they mighty pull out.
And about DICE, I don't think Sony had a booth or something like it, just some people.
And the hostility is partially "both sides" and partially some people here are using this to console warrior or create a conspiracy about the PS5, and the mods are doing shit.
Genuine question, are there other boards online similar to Era that people have good experiences with? Sizable communities and such?
If people want to say it's an overreaction itself, then I guess whatever. Sony made a decision that being very safe in a risky situation. A huge reason for why there are only 15 confirmed cases in the US so far is the safe guards. There were two people here in Illinois, a husband and wife, and they immediately went to a hospital, in isolation, quarantined for weeks, then a week cased in at home.
Beautiful strawman and all but no sweetie that's not what anyone in this thread is arguing.
Holy shit WTF..... In what reality have i come into? I know you like to joke but you really shouldn't do that in a serious thread........Stop playing
The fuck is going on in this thread...!
lol What????
Other thread? You can get takes like that in this one as well.
Who said otherwise ? I was expressing my frustration with the situation.
This is not what the staff post is saying at all. The staff post did not say that viruses are a belief.
Holy fuck, people.
I wonder ;)
Thinking that cancelling an event is an overreaction is not as similarly anti-science as being an anti-vaxxer. Come on.
Didn't say it was. I don't have a problem with this cancellation myself.
Yeah I was wondering that as well. Why did Sony attend CES, Dice and planning to attend GDC as of right now. But skipping PAX. Just seems random. Doesn't make sense if it was a company wide mandate.
''Everything is a non-event until it happens to you'' is what I would say to them.
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