Once it became clear that RDNA2 was able to have more efficient power, having a GHZ over 2ghz became more reasonable.
I thought the PS5 would be anywhere from 9-10TF and it ended up being correct
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PlayStation 5 System Architecture Deep Dive |OT| Secret Agent Cerny
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Once it became clear that RDNA2 was able to have more efficient power, having a GHZ over 2ghz became more reasonable.
I thought the PS5 would be anywhere from 9-10TF and it ended up being correct
Yep with Sony going open world or games being much wider like TLOU2 or GOW i expect them to make that SSD work over time.
Really hype to see what WWS going to do .
Very well, I'll wait for the discussion to get back to technical stuff and not ad hominem.
That's not exactly good news.
Here's the FUD free version of that image
PS5 = perfectly balanced.
They said it could go higher but then the logic would give out .
So the question is how much higer they want to go and where they cap it .
Here's the FUD free version of that image
I was thinking exactly this when I saw that tweet image.
I know right?, if they're not interested in the PS5 then why come to this thread just to shitpost?
Not bad news either. Just means that they had some thermal/power headroom to go faster, but at the voltages they were working with logic just wouldn't switch fast enough.
Going to fantasize about the streaming system's potential courtesy of the raw SSD speed that our resident Brad Sams labels, "gospel". Perhaps the following is from the Book of Genesis:
From macro to on foot detail.
That comparison makes about as much sense as when Ready At Dawn compared the short length of their game to a very expensive and small stake. And why would it be Sony's loss? Wtf is he doing?
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Fucking embarrassing
Yeah I pretty much agree with all that you said. I'm really excited about both consoles.
Would it be fair to think of (not in actual performance, but relative difference between the two) the Xbox Series X GPU like standard clocked GTX 1080Ti
and the PS5 like a highly overclocked GTX 1080?
If the Series X is a Chiron then the PS5 is a McLaren P1 GTR.
For non car guys: Chiron has higher top speed and faster acceleration but the P1 GTR is faster around a track.
Both being extremely fast, but one edging out the other slightly. This is why this bullshit FUD needs to end.
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I think they are great. I can't wait to see what first party brings :). How about you?
Yes, GitHub didn't tell the full story. But it was the most tangible, real piece of evidence of how next-gen was looking that we ever got. And yet, because it wasn't as favourable to a certain console, you had a lot posters (some of whom are in this thread in fact) trying to discredit it at every turn. And no, I'm not talking about the people who just said it wasn't representative of the final hardware. I'm talking about the people that vehemently tried to deny that it had any relevancy whatsoever. It got to the point where if you dared to bring it up you were quickly shutdown. One mod went as far to threaten to ban people who brought it up. Another mockingly used it as a joke answer in one of the many polls.
But what was allowed and encouraged instead? Random insiders, who couldn't even prove they had access to next-gen specs, apparently. You dared to try and doubt someone like Kleegamefan and you better watch out. The guy that, at best, turned out to be massively misinformed; and at worst, turned out to be a pretty blatant liar, was apparently more believable than actual, real leaked numbers. Because no, he didn't just say they're both going to be double-digits. He claimed the PS5 was going to be even higher than XSX's 12TF. But at least he was an actual "verified" poster on this site. What was even worse were people completely refusing to believe GitHub had any relevancy, and instead desperately clinging to the likes of "Tommy Fisher", OsirisBlack and the 13TF+ rumours back at NeoGAF. One of whom has just recently got banned in this thread actually.
So yeah. Sorry, I know this is completely OT and a bit ranty, but as someone who was a part of the next-gen threads from the beginning, it's a little frustrating to see some of the posters who were there just slinking back into the background in threads like these, hoping that their crazy, and quite frankly in some cases, fanboyish behaviour, is quickly forgotten about.
But what was allowed and encouraged instead? Random insiders, who couldn't even prove they had access to next-gen specs, apparently. You dared to try and doubt someone like Kleegamefan and you better watch out. The guy that, at best, turned out to be massively misinformed; and at worst, turned out to be a pretty blatant liar, was apparently more believable than actual, real leaked numbers. Because no, he didn't just say they're both going to be double-digits. He claimed the PS5 was going to be even higher than XSX's 12TF. But at least he was an actual "verified" poster on this site. What was even worse were people completely refusing to believe GitHub had any relevancy, and instead desperately clinging to the likes of "Tommy Fisher", OsirisBlack and the 13TF+ rumours back at NeoGAF. One of whom has just recently got banned in this thread actually.
So yeah. Sorry, I know this is completely OT and a bit ranty, but as someone who was a part of the next-gen threads from the beginning, it's a little frustrating to see some of the posters who were there just slinking back into the background in threads like these, hoping that their crazy, and quite frankly in some cases, fanboyish behaviour, is quickly forgotten about.
Both consoles are about to launch amidst (or hopefully shortly after) a pretty serious worldwide recession. On one hand, launching cheap would definitely increase first year's sell-through, but would also cause tremendous losses while in a slower economy, attach rate might not be as high as it was in the past few years.
I would say launching at you BOM or very slightly below it would be the best option as hardcore fans will probably buy up the stock anyway, and if sales stall, you can always drop a few dollars.
I'm not seeing a 399 PS5 in 2020, not in the economy that's likely to come.
I would say launching at you BOM or very slightly below it would be the best option as hardcore fans will probably buy up the stock anyway, and if sales stall, you can always drop a few dollars.
I'm not seeing a 399 PS5 in 2020, not in the economy that's likely to come.
Maybe a bit too harsh but lots of inconvenient truths, unfortunately.
IGN must be spreading FUD too (12:30) the Dev even days Cerny pulled a fast one with the numbers. DF spreading FUD by saying it's either or both GPU and CPU can't be at max at the same time...man lots professional journalists spreading FUD apparently.
100% accurate OT7-12 was a wild ride
100% accurate OT7-12 was a wild ride
Klee did get one thing right tho, that's to ban himself and never come back.
Here's the FUD free version of that image
It's all those stability updates
Lmao. There was no mention of "Dev" and he was speculating like everyone else, no actual experience with the systems. "Software developer" is a broad term and not everyone is qualified to offer anything more then unsubstantiated opinion.
edit: seems like that "software developer" was still hanging on that 9.2TF number from GitHub as well, pretty pathetic.
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Presuming there's any value in the exercise, I drafted one that's actually to scale. The area of the squares below represents the published specifications as reflected in text on each box, with all the usual caveats about how these aren't guaranteed to reflect real-world performance. Since the silly exercise got started, though, it might as well be carried through. Series X in green as the normalized reference, and PS5 in blue to demonstrate visually how large / small these differences really are:
Of course a corresponding chart could be drawn up in which the PS5 figures are the normalized reference, but I didn't want to feed the perception that box size represents some form of balance. After all, there's no meaningful attempt to visually scale GPU vs. CPU vs. SSD, this is just about CPU vs. CPU, GPU vs. GPU, and SSD vs. SSD.
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No, the Chiron has more power for acceleration and top speed (XSX GPU, CPU) but the McLaren P1 GTR is lighter and more aerodynamic which allows it to have faster speed around corners (PS5 SSD). But the difference in power is negligible between the two, and both are extremely fast.
I know it's an odd comparison and probably a bad one, but that's how I imagine it in my head.
I always go to "IGN Unlocked" when I want objective information about new consoles (skip to 3m):
In the quote he provided, the developer states that they don't know and that they were going off the github leak.
Shocked he even responded to that fanboy went through that dude's timeline...shudder. Gives jaytech and timdog a run for their money
He said they don't know what the sustained are and going off the leak they're far lower On top of that the rest of the quote is accurate from what I've read too from actual engineers.
I want to see what this cooling solution Sony has is and I want to know how they plan on cooling that SSD too or it will throttle like NVMe SSDs do one PC
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Presuming there's any value in the exercise, I drafted one that's actually to scale. The area of the squares below represents the published specifications as reflected in text on each box, with all the usual caveats about how these aren't guaranteed to reflect real-world performance. Since the silly exercise got started, though, it might as well be carried through. Series X in blue as the normalized reference, and PS5 in green to demonstrate visually how large / small these differences really are:
Of course a corresponding chart could be drawn up in which the PS5 figures are the normalized reference, but I didn't want to feed the perception that box size represents some form of balance. After all, there's no meaningful attempt to visually scale GPU vs. CPU vs. SSD, this is just about CPU vs. CPU, GPU vs. GPU, and SSD vs. SSD.
That's a lot better than mine, and more accurate.
I don't get this idea that Xbox Isn't agile. It's weird as hell.
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