The Xbox is stronger when Sony are top dog and easily have the money to create something on par power wise.
Their BC sounds far behind Xbox too.
If MS does the unthinkable and takes a massive hit to match PS5 price then yikes.
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The Xbox is stronger when Sony are top dog and easily have the money to create something on par power wise.
Their BC sounds far behind Xbox too.
If MS does the unthinkable and takes a massive hit to match PS5 price then yikes.
It's really easy to see the people who didn't read or watch regarding the "boost clocks"
These aren't the traditional boost clocks you know of from PC components which "boost" frequencies based on thermal limits.
PS5 clocks run at the max and downclock based on workload. It's expected only rare games will downclock and even then it will only be a couple %.
The worst trend this industry started was giving uneducated people, prone to kneejerk reactions, the word "terraflop"
These aren't the traditional boost clocks you know of from PC components which "boost" frequencies based on thermal limits.
PS5 clocks run at the max and downclock based on workload. It's expected only rare games will downclock and even then it will only be a couple %.
The worst trend this industry started was giving uneducated people, prone to kneejerk reactions, the word "terraflop"
Not the person you responded to but it's only saving grace is the SSD stuff, and weaker everywhere else, should it not be cheaper than the Xbox Series X?
how many times at launch did you not go green since the xbox 360?
Because its about 20% weaker than the XSX with a weaker GPU, slower ram, less memory bandwidth and a slower CPU. Its reasonable for someone to be disappointed and at the same time acknowledging its a nice machine in its own right.
*looks in thread*
Console wars, great.
XBX and PS5 look like beasts, I'll probably get a PS5 but the XBX is giving it a run for its money. Hopefully we see games and more tangibles (aka what does the PS5 look like) soon.
Console wars, great.
XBX and PS5 look like beasts, I'll probably get a PS5 but the XBX is giving it a run for its money. Hopefully we see games and more tangibles (aka what does the PS5 look like) soon.
I believe it was around "we've tested the top 100 games and they run well" with most PS4 titles to work at launch
The differences will probably be more pronounced as time goes by. Same as base PS4 vs base XBO. I'm surprised its slower, I expected they would at least match the top of the line xbox.
As a Playstation fan, the specs read a little disappointing. Effectively it's weaker than the XSX in all areas except SSD speeds. I would have been happy with the rumoured 11.2 / 11.6 TF from a week back, but it's not just the GPU TF count. RAM speeds are slower, SSD storage is strangely smaller and CPU clocks too, RT was sort of glossed over and we don't know a great deal on BC.
I guess for the best Multiplatform game experience I may need to look into investing in the XSX then.
I guess for the best Multiplatform game experience I may need to look into investing in the XSX then.
This as the first PS5 presentation, coming AFTER Microsoft's reveals of that system being more powerful, made this into a thoroughly less impressive presentation than the PS4 reveal in every conceivable way.
I come away from this thinking "well, I can't wait for PS5 exclusives, but I'll be buying third party games on Xbox this gen". And also a bit bored.
I come away from this thinking "well, I can't wait for PS5 exclusives, but I'll be buying third party games on Xbox this gen". And also a bit bored.
Specs aren't bad. Although if they release for the same price as the Series X it'll be a bad look.
It'll be an interesting gen. Sony has the IPs and the proven studios to keep this thing going strong. However with the better system Microsoft and their new studios could come swinging. As always it'll come down to the games
That said, if third party games run better and more stable on the Series X...that could give them a step up. If it's minor sure. But if it ends up the difference between a stable 60 and a 60 with a bunch of dips... It may actually be a competitive gen
It'll be an interesting gen. Sony has the IPs and the proven studios to keep this thing going strong. However with the better system Microsoft and their new studios could come swinging. As always it'll come down to the games
That said, if third party games run better and more stable on the Series X...that could give them a step up. If it's minor sure. But if it ends up the difference between a stable 60 and a 60 with a bunch of dips... It may actually be a competitive gen
I dont get this statement
If the thermals are well designed than it can push sustained when needed and run more efficiently (and extend life of the hardware) when not needed
But of the same token I dont see any reason XSX wouldn't have the same capabilities for the most part
I am curious to see what the real world difference will be between the two once the games get pushed
You're getting it backwaards. PS5 has a one memory pool unlike the two in XSX and its GPU will most likely be more easily saturated than XSX because of the higher throughput. It'll be slower than XSX, but not by much and clearly more efficient.
It's not just speed that improves. It's bigger open world, less corridors, more open game design, more unique assets, etc.
Although only first party games will be taking advantage of this.
Remember, Sony aren't trying to produce the most powerful console on the market. They want to make a console that, over a 5-6 period can sell over 100M+ units.
On paper the console is weaker but it's pretty marginal. I'm fully expecting it to be cheaper than the XBX, with MS releasing Lockhart down the line as a cheaper option.
Incredible specs. And that SSD and I/O solution is a game changer. I can only imagine what to expect regarding game design.
Absolutely crazy SSD speeds. 8-9GBps typical doubling Series X optimal performance (and could reach 22GBps in rarer optimal scenarios on PS5).
TFlops is double-digit so we're in solid territory.
The Tempest audio engine is very interesting.
TFlops is double-digit so we're in solid territory.
The Tempest audio engine is very interesting.
Same people who were crying tears of joy for 13tf PS were only Happy because IT would be more powerful than Series X.
There was lots of people who said they would be Happy for anything over 10. For me those specs are just fine and Series X looks amazing too.
Anything about PS4 games looking better/getting updates on PS5? Eliminating the need for two skus for crossgen games? Halo Infinite style? I forget what Microsoft was calling that feature/initiative.
People were all over the Xbox thread saying there's no way it could be less than $599 and here they are saying it shouldn't be more than $399, but they seem pretty similar in specs.
Are these machines really $200 different?
Are these machines really $200 different?
In Cerny's presentation, he made it seem like it was the exact opposite of what you suggest, and the console would only be expected to run at maximum clocks in 'worst case' scenarios.
Edit: No wait, I'm the technically-illiterate idiot. I rewatched it and he was talking about their approach with the PS4, not the PS5.
If Xbox price match though it would be a moment one for the ages
Not in storage speeds. This sounds super custom that will yield some crazy cool fast loading on top of game streaming assets.
Sounds like Sony is going to be using their WWS to set them apart. The differences are close enough, but if they can come in at a cheaper price and with GG, ND, Santa Monica, etc releasing games taking full advantage of the system that may be all it takes for success.
No, everyone's just flipping out. I'd bet no bigger than $100
Looks like Github leak was kind of right. 36 CUs for the GPU. I'm dissapointed with RAM and the GPU in the PS5.