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PlayStation 5 - Review Thread
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Standard isn't the same as basic. Comparing a hdmi port with a folder makes 0 sense. A hdmi port is considered basic today and a spdif or component output aren't anymore but were years ago.
A folder is convenient, and has become standard after launch for ps systems, but not at launch afaik.
However, considering that folders should be there at launch is fair, i don't argue about that. I use them myself, but complaining along with other features that don't seem to be high on the priority list and, on top of that, will probably come at some point, as if it is some dealbreaker, sorry but i don't buy that.
This REALLY baffles me. It's like people were clamoring for this forever on PS4 until it finally happened, and now you don't include it on PS5? FFS, you were designing a new dashboard from scratch, the least you could've done is take the best features from the last dashboard and implement them!
Basic and standard are synonyms. I wasn't directly comparing an HDMI port with a folder. I was comparing how features that didn't exist before or weren't considered basic or standard became them over time because of their constant implementation that they became expected features.
PS3 most certainly had folders at launch. Regressing OS features every generation isn't something we should be excusing especially a functionality such as folders. Nobody however is calling them a deal breaker though. You're making that up. Quote me who is saying that.
That seems to be the theme. A casualty of throwing everything out and starting anew. I'm guessing the full feature set from the PS4 will work it's way over over the next year or two.
...so that means you have to jump in the argument and say, "Guys, guys, I don't even use it!"
Let people clamor for it. Or be upset about its absence.
Folders weren't added to PS4 until years after launch. It's never a priority, but they'll come eventually.
I just find it a bit of an overreaction. Sure folders sound useful and having features removed is never fun (destiny 2 I'm looking at you) but it's not really going to impact the playability of the console.
Worst case scenario you have to wait a little while before loading your 250 legacy games on to it.
Is there an official thread to discuss external storage at all?
I have a USB Maxtor external Hard drive
Would this be any good for storing and playing PS4 games at all
I have a USB Maxtor external Hard drive
Would this be any good for storing and playing PS4 games at all
It's strange to me that the same thing happened last gen with the PS4 missing some PS3 features. I don't know why they have to take steps back, specifically when this UI seems quite close to the PS4 one.
I'm sure it's coming down the line but it's annoying that we need to "beg" for this again
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OK, but you are creating a new dashboard from scratch. And you know that this is a feature that people wanted and that it's useful. You started working on the interface a couple of years ago (and even implemented new and brilliant stuff like Activities) but you couldn't implement such a basic thing like Folders? It baffles the mind.
I've been using a cheap-ass USB 3.0 WB Easystore for testing and it works fine.
Don't you get Ghost of Tsushima and Days Gone free with the PS+ Collection on PS5? If so, maybe you get Miles & Sackboy too! 😁
This, from the Digital Foundry review, nails it:
For me, at some point over the past month or two, something about the Xbox strategy just clicked: two attractive, distinct models; impressively robust BC; an incredibly high-value service in the form of GamePass; a unique amount of flexibility in terms of game exclusivity, cross-play, and other things along those lines; with the Bethesda purchase, especially, an impressive list of first-party studios; a lower threshold for jumping into the ecosystem with Xbox All-Access. I've gone from very, very little interest in picking up an Xbox to being quite on board with an eventual purchase.
In the final stretch, though, I've just come to really appreciate that, in some ways, the PS5 is more interesting. The UI takes a step or two backwards, for sure, but I love the potential of the innovations. The design is bizarre in a good way. I haven't been this excited to check out a new controller in a long time. And launching with a Wii Sports-esque pack-in game, along with a couple showstoppers in the form of Miles Morales and Demon's Souls? C'mon.
And my takeaway there isn't PS5 > Xbox, especially considering the generation arguably hasn't even started yet, but more... damn. I've gone from kinda just defaulting to getting a PS5 first to being straight up excited to check out its distinguishing features.
For me, at some point over the past month or two, something about the Xbox strategy just clicked: two attractive, distinct models; impressively robust BC; an incredibly high-value service in the form of GamePass; a unique amount of flexibility in terms of game exclusivity, cross-play, and other things along those lines; with the Bethesda purchase, especially, an impressive list of first-party studios; a lower threshold for jumping into the ecosystem with Xbox All-Access. I've gone from very, very little interest in picking up an Xbox to being quite on board with an eventual purchase.
In the final stretch, though, I've just come to really appreciate that, in some ways, the PS5 is more interesting. The UI takes a step or two backwards, for sure, but I love the potential of the innovations. The design is bizarre in a good way. I haven't been this excited to check out a new controller in a long time. And launching with a Wii Sports-esque pack-in game, along with a couple showstoppers in the form of Miles Morales and Demon's Souls? C'mon.
And my takeaway there isn't PS5 > Xbox, especially considering the generation arguably hasn't even started yet, but more... damn. I've gone from kinda just defaulting to getting a PS5 first to being straight up excited to check out its distinguishing features.
Seeing all the posts about folders has made me realise that I never even knew the PS4 had folders at all. And I've had this bad boy since inFamous: Second Son was released. I guess I'm unlikely to notice their absence. 😂
Has anyone confirmed if you can use more than one EXT USB drive for PS4 games? The PS4 had a limitation where only one EXT drive could be connected at any time. Hopefully with PS5 this is not the case
Both the above for me!
Can't wait for the 19th and beyond.
I'd like to know whether or not you can use tempest 3d audio with a USB DAC/AMP. I'm using a sound blasterx g6 with the DT1990 and I would like to use those with the PS5 and still get the benefits of the tempest engine 3d audio.
This is getting silly now because you're wrong:
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After I heard you have no folders I didn't mind it that much but then I also saw that you only have 8 logos, so 8 games on your main menu and the rest always hides in the collection tab, just like on Switch.
I really hate that to be honest. Love seeing all my installed games directly in the main menu and hate how the Switch handles that. That they doing it exactly like them here now shocks me a bit.
Of course, like always, we will get used to it just like with everything else. But I'm not a fan of this.
I really hate that to be honest. Love seeing all my installed games directly in the main menu and hate how the Switch handles that. That they doing it exactly like them here now shocks me a bit.
Of course, like always, we will get used to it just like with everything else. But I'm not a fan of this.
"basic" and "standard" don't mean exactly the same thing, but they are definitely broad synonyms.
I don't think it will matter. Afaik we can pin activities so the game tile is nearly irrelevant.
Are console's ever finished? The Vita (a dead console) still gets firmware patches. Updates will come, our precious folder options will be restored.
Thanks
one question does the PS5 run PS4 games from the external drive itself or does it copy the game to the internal SSD in order to launch it.
Wish we had more PS4 patches. I'm in an odd spot where I've only played Uncharted 4 in terms of exclusives. Don't want to play for example FF7R and then all of a sudden the remastered is announced.
GOT and Days Gone have patches. Project Red announced free next gen patches, R* announced paid remasters.
Just want more official news in regards to exclusives.
GOT and Days Gone have patches. Project Red announced free next gen patches, R* announced paid remasters.
Just want more official news in regards to exclusives.
No, but in this case they are selling the console as 8K and VRR compatible....but the fact....is that at launch non of those features are available..., different than extra improvements and bug-fixing stuff to come later imho
I agree on the folders option etc... but anyways is kinda disappointing to go few steps backwards on this.
Seems to run them directly from the drive, since there's no period of moving the file over.
Not sure anything specific... just been a lot of ambiguity if usb Dac Amps worked on PS5 / Series X. :)
If they had 8k in at launch, what would you use it with? Nothing runs in 8k right now on these consoles.
The Via either got security patches to avoid piracy or even got features removed over time towards its end.
Will be a huge upgrade for me coming from the OG PS4, where the game runs at like 30-40fps constantly.
It was reported in this thread I believe that at least UAC1 DAC's work, I think we're still waiting to find out if UAC2 ones do.
Will I be able to hide games and such in the library section? I have a ton of betas, demos and other stuff that I no longer need to scroll past every time I go through the library. Hopefully you can hide those like on PS4.
doesnt seem you can. At least not a launch. One of the complaints that giant bomb had about the game library
Well that's dumb. I had a few disc games on my PS4 and I'm getting the digital edition. No point in seeing them if I can't even play the game.
Folders are useful, and I'm sure they'll arrive soon, but I'd also love to see them implement something along the lines of Steam's Dynamic Collections so that new purchases automatically file themselves into categories selected by the user from a wide range of tags ('Shoot 'Em Up', '2D', 'Indie Game', 'Pixel Art', 'Currently Installed').
I find this to be indispensable for my 500+ game Steam library, and with PS4 games now heavily discounted and looking better than ever on PS5 I can see my PlayStation library going the same way.
I find this to be indispensable for my 500+ game Steam library, and with PS4 games now heavily discounted and looking better than ever on PS5 I can see my PlayStation library going the same way.
I wasn't going to jump in on this conversation, but I just had to say that this whole exchange between you guys was really nice. No passive aggressive sniping, or getting defensive when an opposing viewpoint was expressed. Just really nice to see on this forum.
As for my 2 cents. I bought a PS4 on launch, and rolled with it until the PS4 Pro released. I initially didn't have any plans on getting a PS4 Pro, or a 4k TV (I was still using a 1080p Sony my mom gave me to replace my old 720p set I had used during the PS3 gen). Then, almost like fate, or Sony triggering a kill switch in my TV (I'm kidding. I think...), my TV just outright died on me one day. Wouldn't turn on at all. I thought it was maybe just the old wiring in my building, but nope, the TV was dead as a doornail. Instead of buying another 1080p TV, I figured, well, 4kTVs are a thing, and I found a really good Samsung one that was 10" bigger than my dead 1080p set (that one was 40", and my current 4k Samsung is 50"), and it was well within price range, so I picked up.
And, well, since I had a 4k TV now, I'd certainly want something that would show it off... Not to mention I was planning on getting my ex-wife her own PS4, since we shared the one. So I upgraded to the PS4 Pro, gave my wife my old PS4 so she could play Fallout 4 and Bloodborne and Skyrim, and never looked back.
I don't regret getting the Pro at all, and it's still serving me well. I'm currently trying to figure out what I'm gonna do about my PS4 Pro though. I'm either going to sell it to my roommate (though she might not have the cash to buy it anytime soon), or give it to my niece and nephew as a gift. They're twins, and I think they share the PS4, so I'm sure they'd love to have their own. They can fight over who gets the Pro if they just have the base model XD XD
