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PlayStation 2 Games are running on the XBOX Series S | MVG

ghostcrew

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Djalminha said:
Wait people are already emulating Saturn on Series X?
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Been playing my Saturn games on my Series X all weekend! A few seem a bit wonky (got some weird ghosting/slowdown on Last Bronx, for example) but Sega Rally is perfect and I played some solid Manx TT last night. Can even easily switch between the Analog controller and normally digital controls with a button press (for those games that support the 3D pad like Nights and Sega Rally Championship Plus).

It's giving my Saturn library a second life honestly.

Had a small dabble with Dreamcast (got Virtua Fighter 3tb working last night) but gonna try Sega Rally 2 and MvC2 tonight.
 
litebrite

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ghostcrew said:
Been playing my Saturn games on my Series X all weekend! A few seem a bit wonky (got some weird ghosting/slowdown on Last Bronx, for example) but Sega Rally is perfect and I played some solid Manx TT last night. Can even easily switch between the Analog controller and normally digital controls with a button press (for those games that support the 3D pad like Nights and Sega Rally Championship Plus).

It's giving my Saturn library a second life honestly.

Had a small dabble with Dreamcast (got Virtua Fighter 3tb working last night) but gonna try Sega Rally 2 and MvC2 tonight.
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I played Sword of the Berserk and MvC2 last night on a One X and it ran decently, just a tad slow, but visually it looked great at higher internal resolution at 1440p. I imagine these run damn near perfectly on Series X|S.
TraderPoe said:
How hard is it to setup emulation on this?
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Not hard at all.
 
Damaniel

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slamhk said:
You don't need "high-end" hardware, unless you want to go really bonkers with shaders, hd textures, higher internal resolution etc. etc.

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For me, the shaders, HD textures and internal resolution are the big selling points. I have all of my original consoles and a ton of games, so if I just wanted to fire up a PS2 game then I could do it on my PS2 with no problem - the ability to make those games look much better on larger modern TVs with higher native rendering resolution and HD texture packs is a huge draw.
 
FaultLineBlues

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Just wondering, I know Quick Resume has been super spotty, but does anyone know if switching between dev and regular mode closes Quick Resume games? I just wanna know ahead of time so if I do decide to use the emulation side of things I'll save my games ahead of time.
 
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Era's own BlockABoots running PS2 games on XSX.






FaultLineBlues said:
Just wondering, I know Quick Resume has been super spotty, but does anyone know if switching between dev and regular mode closes Quick Resume games? I just wanna know ahead of time so if I do decide to use the emulation side of things I'll save my games ahead of time.
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I have no idea, but it's one thing you won't have to worry about if you get the retail version. You have until Sunday to get whitelisted for it.
 

FancyPants

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TheGhost said:
Yeah but how do you prove you already own it. Like i said talk to me like I'm 5. Say i have some old ps2 games buried somewhere in a closet at my parents. How do I emulate them.

How does that work for a multi disc game like final fantasy 7? Not that I would need to for that one since you can get that anywhere.
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You do not need to prove anything unless you're dragged to court. You can rip PS2 games really easily with a DVD player in your computer. For Wii/GC games it's super easy to do it with a Wii, etc.

It's not illegal to use an emulator. It might be illegal to circumvent copyright protection to rip your games but the law says it's legal to do so for archival purposes. It hasn't really been tried in court in a specific "this dude archived his own game" case.
 
Dr. Zoidberg

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I didn't know about the retail version. This isn't something I really need as I have my PC with RetroArch hooked to my TV so I wasn't willing to fool with Dev Mode or pay the minor fee for it, but if I don't have to do that then I wouldn't mind playing around with this for fun. I signed up for the whitelist.
 
Chucker

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Looks like the show is almost over.
also you guys feel free to tell who ever you want about this, someone already reported to MS so its definitely getting removed, its just a question of when, so get in on retroarch while you still can
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That's from the discord.
 

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Damaniel said:
For me, the shaders, HD textures and internal resolution are the big selling points. I have all of my original consoles and a ton of games, so if I just wanted to fire up a PS2 game then I could do it on my PS2 with no problem - the ability to make those games look much better on larger modern TVs with higher native rendering resolution and HD texture packs is a huge draw.
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Certainly! There are some games that clean-up real nice (e.g. Mario Galaxy, Wind Waker), just from running a higher internal resolution!
 
Djalminha

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ghostcrew said:
Been playing my Saturn games on my Series X all weekend! A few seem a bit wonky (got some weird ghosting/slowdown on Last Bronx, for example) but Sega Rally is perfect and I played some solid Manx TT last night. Can even easily switch between the Analog controller and normally digital controls with a button press (for those games that support the 3D pad like Nights and Sega Rally Championship Plus).

It's giving my Saturn library a second life honestly.

Had a small dabble with Dreamcast (got Virtua Fighter 3tb working last night) but gonna try Sega Rally 2 and MvC2 tonight.
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This is incredible, I always want to play those consoles but feel lazy to dig them out of the closet. I can't wait to have this console now.
 
joe1138

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Just loaded RetroArch on my Series X last night via dev mode. I don't know if I would buy an Xbox just to load up RetroArch as N64 emulation (the one thing I really wanted to try out on this) is pretty buggy (GoldenEye, Mario Kart 64 and Mischief Makers both crashed on me early on but Mario 64 seems to run just fine) but if you've already got a Series S or X, this is a pretty neat little bonus.
 

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Damaniel said:
For me, the shaders, HD textures and internal resolution are the big selling points. I have all of my original consoles and a ton of games, so if I just wanted to fire up a PS2 game then I could do it on my PS2 with no problem - the ability to make those games look much better on larger modern TVs with higher native rendering resolution and HD texture packs is a huge draw.
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Older consoles also only have analog outputs, making them look really bad on modern TVs. It's the reason why I've been buying modded hardware (like the UltraHDMI for N64) or fpga based hardware like the Analogue NT. There is something about being able to use the original games that doesn't come with playing on an emulator, but old hardware won't last forever either so I'm glad people are finding ways to make old games feel new again.
 
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Stuggernaut said:
I have a PC for emulation so no interest in investing in a console, but still pretty cool! I may recommend to some friends who love classics.

As for a few other parts of this topic... people need to remember that this is not XBS running it, it is the software that is running the games... so while it is super unlikely that Sony gives two shits about it, theoretically I assume they could use legal channels to try to get MS to block this specific software for use on the system, even in dev mode via some sort of update?
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Sony already tried to block emulators from existing once
Didnt end up well for them

They can't do anything about it in dev mode. It existed for ages. Retroarch exists for playstation consoles too, as a homebrew app
 

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ghostcrew said:
Been playing my Saturn games on my Series X all weekend! A few seem a bit wonky (got some weird ghosting/slowdown on Last Bronx, for example) but Sega Rally is perfect and I played some solid Manx TT last night. Can even easily switch between the Analog controller and normally digital controls with a button press (for those games that support the 3D pad like Nights and Sega Rally Championship Plus).

It's giving my Saturn library a second life honestly.

Had a small dabble with Dreamcast (got Virtua Fighter 3tb working last night) but gonna try Sega Rally 2 and MvC2 tonight.
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Does Saturn need a BIOS copied over? I wasn't able to get my games running for that or DC.
 
thebigword

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Will I still be able to update the Retail version after Microsoft eventually kills it? Like will I be able to update cores, assets, etc?
 
Grimmy11

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This is really making me tempted to buy developer mode and dabble with it on my Series X. Can this play directly from the PS2 discs on Series X or does it need a rip?
 
Kida

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Grimmy11 said:
This is really making me tempted to buy developer mode and dabble with it on my Series X. Can this play directly from the PS2 discs on Series X or does it need a rip?
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You need to rip the games and put them on the internal drive currently (other systems support loading from usb so hopefully PS2 will soon)
 
UltimateHigh

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theres no chance of accounts being banned or some shit for installing and using the "retail" retroarch, right?
 
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ghostcrew said:
Been playing my Saturn games on my Series X all weekend! A few seem a bit wonky (got some weird ghosting/slowdown on Last Bronx, for example) but Sega Rally is perfect and I played some solid Manx TT last night. Can even easily switch between the Analog controller and normally digital controls with a button press (for those games that support the 3D pad like Nights and Sega Rally Championship Plus).

It's giving my Saturn library a second life honestly.

Had a small dabble with Dreamcast (got Virtua Fighter 3tb working last night) but gonna try Sega Rally 2 and MvC2 tonight.
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Do you have Magic Knight Rayearth? I wonder how that plays on it.
 
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At first, I thought about how Microsoft could have an easily exploitable system in place that would elicit in activities adjacent platform holders would disapprove of; then I realized that 1.) my anxiety shouldn't get the best of me and I should embrace that Microsoft is so open with their platforms and 2.) this (by 'this' I mean RetroArch) is probably very beneficial for game developers who want to remaster legacy titles. Either way, it's a big plus that emulation is extremely accessible for users on Microsoft's consoles.
 

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Does RetroArch detect other controllers connected? Like a PS4 one, for example. Probably doesn't have the drivers to do so, but from footage I saw it shows "generic Xbox controller detected" when opening the app.
 
ThereAreFourNaan

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On Series X, can you pop in a PS2 disc and run emu off it, or do you need to rip it first?

It would be totally awesome if you could run it natively, I have a stack of PS2 games.
 

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Kirth Gersen said:
Does RetroArch detect other controllers connected? Like a PS4 one, for example. Probably doesn't have the drivers to do so, but from footage I saw it shows "generic Xbox controller detected" when opening the app.
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After connecting it via USB it doesn't recognize neither my SN30+ in any mode nor the DualShock 4

ThereAreFourNaan said:
On Series X, can you pop in a PS2 disc and run emu off it, or do you need to rip it first?



It would be totally awesome if you could run it natively, I have a stack of PS2 games.
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It does it on PC but dunno on Xbox; it does it with PSX and Saturn. It also offers an option to rip it. I have an S so Idk if that's possible on X yet
 
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themuzzotheory said:
It does it on PC but dunno on Xbox; it does it with PSX and Saturn. It also offers an option to rip it. I have an S so Idk if that's possible on X yet
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To make sure I'm understanding you correctly here, are you saying the emulator will actually play a game straight from a Saturn/PSX disc inserted into the XSX?
 

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