playing kingdom hearts 3 after beating no more heroes 3 is like going from hero to zero.

[nsilvias]

nmh3 was hype all the way thru and kept me engaged even against basic enemies who were actually fun to fight and the characters were fun to watch playout with all their nonsense.
kingdom hearts 3 at about 8 hours in which is almost as long as i spent playing nmh3 has not been anywhere near engaging gameplay wise nor do i really care about anything that is going on. im at corona world and i cant say i care. i havent watched tangled tho so i have no nostalgia for it i guess. i do see a good game in there but my lack of energy playing this in comparison to how hooked nmh3 had me from beginning to end is most likely going to lead me to drop this game. its weird because the e3 trailer for this game was hype

 

[s y]

. i do see a good game in there

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Bless your heart

 

[nsilvias]

Bless your heart

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not story but a good game lol

 

[BurstLayer]

I would suggest just dropping it then you simply don't like it.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

I weirdly agree in that I just feel totally sapped of motivation to continue where I dropped off two years ago in KH3. Stopped at Twilight Town. It's so strange because getting my hands on THE Kingdom Hearts 3 some years ago would have hyped my to hell. But now here it is, I'm 3 or 4 hours in and I'm just like meh.

Will still finish it one day I guess.

 

[Deleted member 34949]

I'd just drop it if you're not feeling it, because it ain't going to get any better from there (I actually like the game quite a bit.)

NMH3 is fucking awesome though, yeah.

 

[Aprikurt]

We waited 13 years and waded through umpteeen canonical spinoffs of varying quality for a "Press X to Disney Ride" action game with a piss poor story that doesn't even attempt to conclude the series in any meaningful way, setting up more cosmic bullshit in a slavering attempt to get you to buy KH4

More disappointing than Fallout 4.

 

[Saturday]

tbf that's.. two pretty different games, even if 'dude swinging sword' is the tenet of both game's gameplay. from travis touchdown to sora is such a self-vibe check I'm surprised the whiplash didn't kill ya

think maybe give it a break or drop it completely is your best bet here

 

[Slaythe]

If you have the DLC I think it lets you kinda customize the game to adapt gameplay to what you prefer.

At 60 fps and by skipping cutscenes, it's okay.

On harder modes (lv1 crit) it's actually miserable and pathetic unlike KH2.

But the bonus bosses of the DLC are fantastic gameplay wise.


You do get a lot of options in KH3 regarding gameplay, you can also cancel your keyblade switching to avoid having that annoying animation and doing quick switch combos.

So yeah I'd just recommend powering through, make you play at 60 fps it makes it a lot more enjoyable, I couldn't care for the story.

People hated the pirates world but it was my favorite I think. I enjoyed the adventure aspect of it.

 

[DatManOvaDer]

We waited 13 years and waded through umpteeen canonical spinoffs of varying quality for a "Press X to Disney Ride" action game with a piss poor story that doesn't even attempt to conclude the series in any meaningful way, setting up more cosmic bullshit in a slavering attempt to get you to buy KH4

More disappointing than Fallout 4.

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none of the games are spinoffs.
and it was always meant to end one saga, not the series

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Ironically I had infinitely more fun with KH3 than I did with NMH3. I just kinda got bored and gave up on NMH3 after a couple ranking fights. There's just zero substance to the experience.

KH3's story is absolutely godawful, but the worlds are engaging, and the combat (especially in ReMind+) is more fun to play with compared to NMH3 which shows its entire hand by the three-hour mark and stops growing.

 

[Slaythe]

We waited 13 years and waded through umpteeen canonical spinoffs of varying quality for a "Press X to Disney Ride" action game with a piss poor story that doesn't even attempt to conclude the series in any meaningful way, setting up more cosmic bullshit in a slavering attempt to get you to buy KH4

More disappointing than Fallout 4.

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1) Turn off attractions, why would you keep that on LOL ?

2) Every character got their conclusion and we're talking 9 characters here (Terra Riku Ven Aqua Roxas etc...)

 

[RROCKMAN]

Kh3 is booty up until the dlc.

I have no need to return to it. I guess KH2FM was a difficult act to follow.

 

[Lockheartilly9799]

I loved KH III and I'll die on that hill proudly. if you don't like it, just don't play it. Nothing to think too deeply on.

 

[Aprikurt]

1) Turn off attractions, why would you keep that on LOL ?

2) Every character got their conclusion and we're talking 9 characters here (Terra Riku Ven Aqua Roxas etc...)

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Wait you can turn off attractions? That might genuinely make it better.

I loved KH III and I'll die on that hill proudly. if you don't like it, just don't play it. Nothing to think too deeply on.

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V reductionist, if I was waiting for a sequel to a game for 13 years, just don't play it!? Nice. No criticism needed of anything ever.

 

[headfallsoff]

KH3's story fuckin sucks no two ways about it. Thanks to the power of the unreal engine, it's possible to create cutscenes that literally never end. It doesn't get better sorry.

The game itself kinda does, especially if you mess about with the harder difficulties and the DLC, but it's not as instantly engaging combat wise as KH2. Unless you're a huge KH fan like me who is willing to put up with a bunch of bullshit to get to the core you like then you may as well just drop it, there's no point where it suddenly reveals that it's genius.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Wait you can turn off attractions? That might genuinely make it better.

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Yes. You can easily disable Attraction Flow entirely if you don't want to use those attacks.

 

[Secret Bambino]

Dang, I really can't relate.
I loved NMH3, and I also loved KH3 (it's my favorite in the series, actually).

You should just stop playing, OP. Give it a rest, and come back to it later, perhaps.

 

[BurstLayer]

KH3 is my second favorite in the series but if its the story is whats dragging for you definitely drop it. Gameplay gets better and you can customize it heavily now with remind updates

 

[Lockheartilly9799]

Wait you can turn off attractions? That might genuinely make it better.


V reductionist, if I was waiting for a sequel to a game for 13 years, just don't play it!? Nice. No criticism needed of anything ever.

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I didn't imply no criticism was allowed. It's not reductionist at all to suggest that if you don't like a video game, then do not play it. Simple yes. Reductionist? Not quite. You've explained your position to multiple people anyway. It's not like I'm telling you not to continue your discourse.

 

[Xwing]

Hot take I guess: KH3 was amazing from beginning to end, DLC made it even better, I loved every minute of it. My favorite in the series. Only glaring flaw for me was lack of Final Fantasy compared to 1 and 2.

 

[Slaythe]

Wait you can turn off attractions? That might genuinely make it better.

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Game is unplayable with them on.

Genuinely turned them off and never looked back.

I had to keep cutscenes for keyblade forms because they had invul frames.

 

[Ravelle]

I played through every kingdom hearts game on that collection back to back leading up to KH3, I was so excited to finally get there but I didn't even it, something else came in the middle of it or I just got distracted by something else. Very weird game, the game can both look beautiful and something out of the 2008 at the same time, characters looked so weird and plastically.

I wanna go back to it with the DLC at some point but it's gonna be a tough pill to swallow being removed from the story and characters so long.

 

[Vibed]

I've yet to pick up NMH3, but KH3 has been really fun on Critical. I feel challenged by most encounters and have to pay attention to enemies and learn boss tells. If the DLC bosses are even better, then I'd rank it even with KH2, honestly.

I have to wonder how much people's opinions on the game change if they play from the beginning with patches and DLC vs the launch day version. I get the impression that its also a lot worse mechanically on lower difficulties.

 

[RockmanBN]

Kh3's campaign is booty outside some actual funny moments like the Woody Xehanort scene. The limit cut DLC is great, but that's something you do after the main campaign.

 

[nsilvias]

Very weird game, the game can both look beautiful and something out of the 2008 at the same time, characters looked so weird and plastically.

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the worlds look great but the character models look really bad at times. its like they put ps2 models in a ps4 game. characters like hades just look really flat and have some weird facial animations. the main party actually looks good, its just some of the disney characters that feel off

 

[Weiss]

See the thing for me is that I like KH more than I care to admit, well I like the first game a whole lot and the second begrudgingly, but I won't say I'm in love. I feel like the only way I'll ever get the KH game I want again is when I wish upon a star but that's just the circle of life for this series; new one comes out, I get excited despite myself, I tell myself it'll be good because life's a happy song, and then what's this? It's bad. They're so close, they're always almost there, but it feels like every time something interesting happens it inevitably leads into a cascade of writing failures when this series could really do with going back to the bare necessities instead of plot points where Sora learns for like the sixth time that he's got a friend in me.

But, like, why should I worry? Whatever poor unfortunate souls still fill the fandom they're having a good time. I really need to let it go, someone can tell me that it's not a part of your world, but that's kind of the problem; it was a part of my world, it was a whole new world where this cross reference of ideas came together and elevated themselves above the sum of their parts, and now it's just gone no matter how far I go to try and recapture that lost magic. Some things never change, I guess, a boomer fan harping on his nostalgia, but maybe it's time I put an end to it. It'd be the first time in forever a crotchety old goat like me could. Maybe that's good enough, that I can look at KH1 and think you'll be in my heart.

 

[Renteka-Bond]

The only part worth anything in KH3 is the Remind DLC, but you have to beat the game to get to it.

The Disney stuff is largely superfluous (particularly the main Disney. Pixar at least tries to do something interesting with the worlds). If you want any sort of emotional payoff for the non-disney characters, you don't get any until the last like 3 hours of the game. Then, if you do have Remind, you have to play through the ending hours again to get the not crappy version of the ending.

That being said, like I said, Remind, gameplay wise, is legitimately good and the game is 'better' now from the Remind Updates, but KH3 is still torn down in the main story by the original design overall. I'll be there for KH4 though, ReMind's fights were that good.

 

[entremet]

Kh3 is booty up until the dlc.

I have no need to return to it. I guess KH2FM was a difficult act to follow.

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I think you mean Birth By Sleep ;)

 

[Aprikurt]

See the thing for me is that I like KH more than I care to admit, well I like the first game a whole lot and the second begrudgingly, but I won't say I'm in love. I feel like the only way I'll ever get the KH game I want again is when I wish upon a star but that's just the circle of life for this series; new one comes out, I get excited despite myself, I tell myself it'll be good because life's a happy song, and then what's this? It's bad. They're so close, they're always almost there, but it feels like every time something interesting happens it inevitably leads into a cascade of writing failures when this series could really do with going back to the bare necessities instead of plot points where Sora learns for like the sixth time that he's got a friend in me.

But, like, why should I worry? Whatever poor unfortunate souls still fill the fandom they're having a good time. I really need to let it go, someone can tell me that it's not a part of your world, but that's kind of the problem; it was a part of my world, it was a whole new world where this cross reference of ideas came together and elevated themselves above the sum of their parts, and now it's just gone no matter how far I go to try and recapture that lost magic. Some things never change, I guess, a boomer fan harping on his nostalgia, but maybe it's time I put an end to it. It'd be the first time in forever a crotchety old goat like me could. Maybe that's good enough, that I can look at KH1 and think you'll be in my heart.

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Perfection

 

[BurstLayer]

Hot take I guess: KH3 was amazing from beginning to end, DLC made it even better, I loved every minute of it. My favorite in the series. Only glaring flaw for me was lack of Final Fantasy compared to 1 and 2.

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Might be a hot take on the internet/the fourms but usually any person I talk to outside of this is thinks the game is enjoyable. Most likely my confirmation bias tho LOL

 

[nsilvias]

I think you mean Birth By Sleep ;)

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BBS is top tier definetly my fav KH so far.

 

[Ovvv]

We waited 13 years and waded through umpteeen canonical spinoffs of varying quality for a "Press X to Disney Ride" action game with a piss poor story that doesn't even attempt to conclude the series in any meaningful way, setting up more cosmic bullshit in a slavering attempt to get you to buy KH4

More disappointing than Fallout 4.

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Nomura spent 13 years telling people that KH3 wasn't going to be any type of conclusion, though. Expecting that was wrong from the jump

 

[Quinton]

I haven't played this game buuuut I see far more praise toward it everywhere else. Is my anecdotal experience just kinda wonky and irrepresentative?

 

[Kaydigi]

I wish Square would just start Kingdom Hearts over. One could dream.

 

[chiller]

 

[Weiss]

Nomura spent 13 years telling people that KH3 wasn't going to be any type of conclusion, though. Expecting that was wrong from the jump

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I mean yeah but couldn't it be a conclusion to itself?

Like, as a story, the only thing that outright concludes is "the same bad guy is beaten again but this time it sticks." If you wanted to stop at KH1's open ended conclusion of Sora and the gang searching for their friends, sure, and KH2 just actually wrapped just about everything save for some minor plot hooks you could ignore if you wanted to.

And then a bunch of KH3 moments are "hey bitch, you know about the McGuffin? Hmph, you have no idea what's coming."

 

[nsilvias]

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i loved this part.

 

[Xwing]

See the thing for me is that I like KH more than I care to admit, well I like the first game a whole lot and the second begrudgingly, but I won't say I'm in love. I feel like the only way I'll ever get the KH game I want again is when I wish upon a star but that's just the circle of life for this series; new one comes out, I get excited despite myself, I tell myself it'll be good because life's a happy song, and then what's this? It's bad. They're so close, they're always almost there, but it feels like every time something interesting happens it inevitably leads into a cascade of writing failures when this series could really do with going back to the bare necessities instead of plot points where Sora learns for like the sixth time that he's got a friend in me.

But, like, why should I worry? Whatever poor unfortunate souls still fill the fandom they're having a good time. I really need to let it go, someone can tell me that it's not a part of your world, but that's kind of the problem; it was a part of my world, it was a whole new world where this cross reference of ideas came together and elevated themselves above the sum of their parts, and now it's just gone no matter how far I go to try and recapture that lost magic. Some things never change, I guess, a boomer fan harping on his nostalgia, but maybe it's time I put an end to it. It'd be the first time in forever a crotchety old goat like me could. Maybe that's good enough, that I can look at KH1 and think you'll be in my heart.

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One day your pun crimes will catch up with you.

 

[Chumunga64]

KH3 has genuinely amazing gameplay especially in remind. some of the best action RPG stuff I've ever played while no more heroes still plays pretty badly

of course KH3's story is bad by kingdom hearts standards and whoever did the voice direction lobotomized every actor because the voice acting is lifeless

 

[Renteka-Bond]

I mean yeah but couldn't it be a conclusion to itself?

Like, as a story, the only thing that outright concludes is "the same bad guy is beaten again but this time it sticks." If you wanted to stop at KH1's open ended conclusion of Sora and the gang searching for their friends, sure, and KH2 just actually wrapped just about everything save for some minor plot hooks you could ignore if you wanted to.

And then a bunch of KH3 moments are "hey bitch, you know about the McGuffin? Hmph, you have no idea what's coming."

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That part. They dangle this nebulous McGuffin ability at you the whole game but by the end of the game, it's still unclear what it even is or why despite everyone being able to do it Sora's is so special.

 

[sora87]

KH3 is such a weird game. The first 20 hours is like.. ok. Nothing special. Then the last 6 are great.

 

[chiller]

i loved this part.

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It's so funny.
The fact they left the uncensored version of it in the files until recently is extremely good.

 

[Nax]

Sounds right. KH3 feels like a PS2 game in design. For better or worse. Story sucks, obviously. But the combat is pretty fun at times.

 

[Lari]

Just showing up here to say I love Kingdom Hearts 3.
Shining some light into the darkness.

 

[Viale]

KH3 on Crit is loads of fun imo. They make some questionable decisions like hiding the ability changes to base sora after beating the base game or something? Dunno, but I've went through Kh3 like 3 or 4 times now, and the gameplay just feels so good. getting good at using the warp mechanic on bosses is legitimately one of the better feelings in an action RPG.

Limit cut bosses are also some of the GOAT.

Story is a fairly weak conclusion to the dark seeker saga (coming from a fan of the story/characters), but the gameplay aspects of it slap.

 

[808s & Villainy]

I wish we could get remakes of NM1/2 with the NMH3 combat system. It's sooo nice

 

[diakyu]

I haven't played this game buuuut I see far more praise toward it everywhere else. Is my anecdotal experience just kinda wonky and irrepresentative?

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In more casual settings you won't see as of harsh criticisms. There's a pretty large schism between the causal and hardcore KH audiences when it comes to stuff like gameplay, one of the largest I've ever seen.

 

[Daysean]

All i can say is Crit Mode Level 1 Run + DLC/Update Modifications can give you a run especially in the latter fights
but base game is omega piss easy even on proud mode

 

[Chumunga64]

That part. They dangle this nebulous McGuffin ability at you the whole game but by the end of the game, it's still unclear what it even is or why despite everyone being able to do it Sora's is so special.

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yeah, KH 3 was never advertised as "the big finale" but it was the end of the darkseeker saga and it went out with a whimper (especially before remind)

Spoiler

the final boss had one track playing as opposed to the 3 tracks for Xemnas in 2 and it used Terra's theme for some reason. the final level was a big boss rush as if the writers realized they were at the end of the story so we fight like the seekers of darkness and we get a truncated final speech after we beat them. It's especially weird when you fight most of them in duos so when you beat one, they do a speech before "dying" presumably while the other boss is drinking gatorade or something.

the terra/ventus/aqua trio had sort of a lame conclusion where you don't even play as Lingering will. he just disappears and Terra pops out of the guardian

Also, I'm pretty Nomura realized that Sora doesn't really know Xehanort that much so he made Xehanort kill Kairi to add some stakes and it fell flat because Kairi's not a character. to make it worse, Xehanort goes out with dignity after all the shit he did