The input latency has been decreased on the control and with the x/s optimization.
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Playing Gears 5 now and its shocking how much better it is at 3rd person gunplay than most games
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The input latency has been decreased on the control and with the x/s optimization.
Ah that explains a lot. It definitely did its job in making it feel better for me
It's the same gameplay since the first game, which was great back then too, It's just a bit samey 5 games in (6 if you want to count judgement)
The new storyline isn't that great, characters aren't all that well regarded and the open sections of 5 didn't really add anything other than wasted time.
I'm also a bit bored of bullet spongey enemies but there's no denying Gears 5 has good gunplay.
Gears for me peaked on the third game, now i find the gameplay dull and not inovative at all.
Hopefully the coalition can reinvent this franchise into something even better.
The gameplay is good but for me it's the same game since the original trilogy.
Hopefully the coalition can reinvent this franchise into something even better.
The gameplay is good but for me it's the same game since the original trilogy.
I have played Gears since 2006 (Gears Of War) and the controls have always felt so natural. I got into the Uncharted series and No:2 Online and was hoping for a Gears feel but the shooting always felt off for me. The PS3 pad was awful for Third Person mechanics despite loving the campaigns.
Gears for me is the flag bearer for Third Person shooters.
Gears for me is the flag bearer for Third Person shooters.
After being away from xbox for a generation, having played on a Sony platform for 7 years, all the uncharteds and both TLOU, I have to agree that Gears is still king at gunplay. That makes sense really, it's chunky structures all facilitate slower, static gunfights. It'sthe opposite of The Naughty Dog shooters. It's gunplay clicks into place and frankly you shouldn't fix what's broken, just build around it. Naughty dogs games had shit shooting. Uncharted 4 was good but still below gears. TLOU2 is a legit great shooter, and it's use of guerilla combat is incredible. But again, Gears 5 just feels amazing to play, immediately, everything services gunplay.
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I'm playing Red Dead Redemption 2 right now. Gonna play Gears 5 next (if I finish RDR2 before Cyperpubk 2077 hits, that is). It should be... funny.
Among the games in the upper eschalon of polish, moving around in Gears feels noticeably last gen. I get still get stuck on geometry in ways that don't happen in Naughty Dog games. The same kinda shit that happens in The Division, though Gears is better than that.
Especially bad are stairs with low railings. It looks like you should be able to vault over, but Gears animation can't handle it.
Especially bad are stairs with low railings. It looks like you should be able to vault over, but Gears animation can't handle it.
I only played gears 4 and 5, but I honestly prefer the recent naughty dog games in terms of shooting, controlling the character and the overall difficulty balance. They're pretty good though, I just hope gears 6 takes a bigger leap than 5 in terms of new mechanics or refined controls.
I've played every gears game, and have every uncharted game + the uncharted collection and id still put gears as a lot higher than uncharted. Gnasher gunplay can't be topped.
I played Gears 4 and 5 basically back to back and Gears 5 has tighter movement, faster response and better aiming. The game just feels really snappy. It's still a cover shooter but you get so many more options now, also with Jack. It's still pretty rad and just a well-executed formula.
I had a thought about this when I saw this thread, but I find it's hard to put into words.
Gears feels more like playing a straight up FPS, and there just happens to be a character on-screen who's following your actions. But it's like you're controlling the gun rather than the character. Most third-person games put you squarely in control of the character and it makes for a slight disconnect when it comes to the shooting. As if you're having to maneuver the character to get the right shooting, rather than simply doing the shooting yourself in a more natural way and the character just sort of goes along with it.
Am I explaining that well enough? lol
With a lot of third-person games, even ones defined more as shooters rather than adventure games or whatever, I tend to feel okay using a controller. But with Gears, I vastly prefer mouse and keyboard, which I normally reserve for first-person games.
Gears feels more like playing a straight up FPS, and there just happens to be a character on-screen who's following your actions. But it's like you're controlling the gun rather than the character. Most third-person games put you squarely in control of the character and it makes for a slight disconnect when it comes to the shooting. As if you're having to maneuver the character to get the right shooting, rather than simply doing the shooting yourself in a more natural way and the character just sort of goes along with it.
Am I explaining that well enough? lol
With a lot of third-person games, even ones defined more as shooters rather than adventure games or whatever, I tend to feel okay using a controller. But with Gears, I vastly prefer mouse and keyboard, which I normally reserve for first-person games.
I'm having a lot of fun with it. I've always wondered why active reload didn't catch on in other games. It's such great concept that could work well in other shooters.
Uncharted 4, TLOU2 and The Division 2 are all better IMHO.
Gears was the gold standard last gen when it came down to tight controls, but it didn't evolve as much as the competition.
Gears was the gold standard last gen when it came down to tight controls, but it didn't evolve as much as the competition.
The gunplay feels weightless. I feel like I'm hitting actors with spitballs.
By comparison Control feels solid.
By comparison Control feels solid.
There's just nothing like Gears. Especially in multiplayer. That in your face CQC shotgun blowing people to bits is just too satisfying. Getting a headshot and hearing that pop. Lawd. Gears alone keeps me with Xbox. Gears will always have a place in my heart.
Controller latency improvement really did make this feel noticeably better, yes. Very underrated improvement with the XSX.
Forgot about Control, also better than Gears 5, yes. The weapons and powers felt super satisfying to use.
That totally makes sense and it's a great point. I think it's why Gears has never really "clicked" with me; the games are extremely good at what they do but it's not my cup of tea compared to some other TPS out there.
Nothing touches Gears with regards to 3rd person gunplay/cover/movement mechanics.
This can be judged in competitive multiplayer, many other games feel good in campaign but take their 3rd person mechanics into multiplayer and it's not so good.
Gears feels great in campaign and multiplayer.
This can be judged in competitive multiplayer, many other games feel good in campaign but take their 3rd person mechanics into multiplayer and it's not so good.
Gears feels great in campaign and multiplayer.
I think Control might be my favorite game *period* to be honest.
Gears shooting feels great and it does combat arenas better than just about anyone. It just can't figure out how to wrap that design into a setting and story that doesn't feel stuck in 2006.
I'm playing through the game for the second time (first time on Series X) just to goof around and have fun. Playing with "grenade exploding heads", "voiced gunfire" (ratatatatatat, pow pow pow, bang, boom 🤣 ), "ammo refill on successful fast reload", and "double the ammo" turned on.
I highly recommend playing with some of the modifiers if you're playing the game again for fun.
Gameplay shot I took this past week.
I highly recommend playing with some of the modifiers if you're playing the game again for fun.
Gameplay shot I took this past week.
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it does! go for it OP
Funny, none of those clicked for me
The game is on gamepass and it still didn't/doesn't make headlines. Gears gameplay is not the the undisputed king.
It's past it's time. Should have stayed in last-gen and I really liked Gears 4 (5 not so much).
Im playing strange brigade on the pc and thats semi satisfying as well. Comes down to the animation after the kill and how that bullet interacts with the target. Mafia 3 had some feel good gun combat too. May be the best in an open world shooter for sure.
It is, but where it shines, it's in the MP Gnasher wallbounce crazyness, different modes and content like Horde. The problem with Gears beyond how hardcore it is, is that Gears general aesthetics is just not that appealing in 2020 imo.
That's putting me off right now actually. TTK, closer re-spawns is removing the strategy of MP. Last thing I want is for Gears to become COD.
Having played both, TLOU2 feels much better to play, despite being just 30 fps. The gunplay is good in both, but the movement is so much better in TLOU2. I feel like I'm always in control of a human, fast and nimble, while Gears feels like controlling a shopping cart. I know it's meant to be so, to a certain extent, but it's not a choice I agree with. They managed to add colours and even humor to the game, I'm sure they can add better movement in the next one.
Other than destiny 2 gears 5 is probably my most played game last gen. And also probably my most played game this current gen so far (cold war and assassins creed are probably close though atm).
To me and my friend group gears 5 is just such a content filled blockbuster. Long ass campaign (compared to others in the series and typical shooters), a plethora of coop stuff to do (campaign, escape, horde) and intense pvp multiplayer. We fell out of it in operation/season 2 but seasons 4 and 5 really came out swinging with amazing changes and additions. The more i hype myself up about it I probably would consider it one of my top 3 games of last gen (ori being number 1).
To me and my friend group gears 5 is just such a content filled blockbuster. Long ass campaign (compared to others in the series and typical shooters), a plethora of coop stuff to do (campaign, escape, horde) and intense pvp multiplayer. We fell out of it in operation/season 2 but seasons 4 and 5 really came out swinging with amazing changes and additions. The more i hype myself up about it I probably would consider it one of my top 3 games of last gen (ori being number 1).