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Platinum boss Atsushi Inaba unimpressed by PS5/Scarlett: "It's more of the same"
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He doesn't seem very forward thinking. It's more of the same with like 5x the performance. It opens up possibilities that weren't there before. It's like saying games like Witcher 3 would have been the same game if it released during the PS3/360 generation. The less concessions devs have to make when developing their games the better.
Doesn't sound like you are looking at this from the perspective of who was being interviewed.
They're just noisy PC's in a small box, they're pretty boring. I used to get excited as fuck with consoles like the N64 or the first Playstation but they're all the same now. I'm not even against it, it just is what it is.
Reading about the PS2 emotion engine in some magazine was exciting, you don't get that anymore.
Reading about the PS2 emotion engine in some magazine was exciting, you don't get that anymore.
There used to be a lot of hardware innovation (Motion controls, rumble pack, SEGA's all kinds of crazy Dreamcast controllers + the VMU) but that's besides the point. The dependence on hardware innovation + the trend of custom chips gave a completely different feeling in new hardware arrival. There used to be more hype surrounding new hardware and it doesn't really matter where it ended (most of the time nowhere I guess?), it's not there anymore because everything has become standardised.
I mean, if you look back at it, most of the hardware manufacturers claims were completely bollocks, but we're talking about hype and excitement about new hardware. Hype doesn't equal reality, not all the time.
Aside from being patently false, that's unrelated to the topic.
Amazing the wrong interpretations in this thread..... Anyway, he's right. With a high end PC ( with ssd for games) you already have the next gen Xbox for example.
I'm honestly shocked how much is wrong with this post
hopefully this is satire and I just missed the context
Nothing has even been revealed yet other than the CPU/GPU architecture and fast loading times/SSD read speeds. What in the world got you excited for past consoles?
Having two virtually identical, closed-ecosystem, budget-PC boxes on the market does become rather uninteresting and stale from an enthusiast standpoint. The difference for the consumer basically comes down to what interface they like best and which games they'd like to play. At that point you may as well get rid of the requirement to own a particular box, like Microsoft are doing.
So what? It brought an entirely new way to play. Sure, it theoretically existed with Nvidia's Shield before and other Android-based devices, but no one used that shit. Nintendo polished it and brought it to the masses.
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Quote says before consoles had tech that wasn't found on pc. Even says that the switch also just uses a tegra. He wants to see something similar in the vein of what was done way back. Something that cant be found elsewhere.
Exactly. The era where big electronics companies like Sony or Panasonic or can be competitive in chip design is long gone. Companies specializing in that stuff have been iterating for decades now to the point that no one can compete with what they have to offer.
Seriously, though, for me, it's always been about which games I'd like to play. Nothing else mattered much.
Quirky hardware and development environments do not lead to us getting more high quality and innovative games.
You can accuse Inaba of having a too romantic view on specialized hardware, but other than that I don't think it's too hard to figure out where he is coming from and I don't think his response warrants any of these shallow-ass jabs against him, PlatinumGames as a studio or their previous work
It looks like the only thing they read was the headline based on the responses in here.
Lol, some of you are really trying too hard when it comes to PG.
At least, next time, take the time to read the OP/article before posting :P
Framerate was more consistent on 360 yeah, but not vastly better (while the PS3 version had better cutscenes).
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So what? Building a PC is just not going to be in the cards for a lot of people. Having a curated experience with an Xbox for a reasonable price is still a very appealing option. There hasn't been a single Xbox system that could do more than a high-end PC at the time. It just comes down to what content is available and how easy the experience is for the players.
I wouldn't spend so much time parsing his every word, but look at the overall general sentiment. That is to say, he is simply lamenting that every year it's more of the same, just bigger, faster, and stronger. The videogame fan in him, and many of us who agree, wish that a little bit more experimentation and customization went into a new console (e.g. basically Nintendo consoles over the years). Sure, they may fail, but at least they are trying something new.
nah Shinobi is right, and I'd rather get innovation in games before hardware. And before you say Nintendo, I don't want to put up their gimmicks to experience their games.
The Xbox wasn't all that unique. He can still make wacky-ass controllers for a crazy project if he finds someone willing to fund it.
That's a perfect example of game innovation over hardware chipset innovation.
Excluding accessories and the DS series, it's really only been the Wii and Wii U that offered unique gimmicks that couldn't be done elsewhere.
In the mere sense of technology, stadia is very interesting. Software as a service is more and more prevalent in many different industries, it is difficult to understand why Games are so slow with it.
Streaming is a different avenue, not just the only one avenue for releasing games.
Streaming is a different avenue, not just the only one avenue for releasing games.
Exoticism in consoles was a fun thing to talk about in the schoolyard, but the last generation of truly exotic silicon was expensive for customers to buy. Which is more important to preserve? The uniqueness of CPUs, GPUs, and systems-on-chip? Or their accessibility?
If he's bothered more that we're just sitting in front of televisions and monitors, then the required change in medium to make Platinum happy has to come from companies outside of the console business and not just from the console business. Does the core visual practice need to change? Are slabs of screens the boring part? Does he prefer all devices to revolve around the delivery of VR or "simstim" or some other core solution? Maybe the hardware concept behind the Switch is the shift they could get behind, regardless of what's powering it?
If he's bothered more that we're just sitting in front of televisions and monitors, then the required change in medium to make Platinum happy has to come from companies outside of the console business and not just from the console business. Does the core visual practice need to change? Are slabs of screens the boring part? Does he prefer all devices to revolve around the delivery of VR or "simstim" or some other core solution? Maybe the hardware concept behind the Switch is the shift they could get behind, regardless of what's powering it?
This shouldn't be surprising. People in Engineering and Tech fields are apt to like problem solving(I sure as hell do), and he recognizes that it's in the consumers best interest to use off the shelf parts. It's probably in just about all developers' best interests too, no matter where the passion lies.
Also, people are missing that he thinks the Switch is boring too, so basically no hardware out that gets him excited.
Also, people are missing that he thinks the Switch is boring too, so basically no hardware out that gets him excited.
I agree with him.
A generation switch nowadays is kinda just... business as usual. I'm not really that excited for new hardware anymore. The only exception for me this generation was the Switch, but nowadays it's all just such a formality. The hardware isn't anything to be hyped about anymore, as much as the games that will inevitably come to it. I feel like the middle-gen solutions like the Pro and X just exacerbated how little I look forward to seeing PS5 and Scarlett.
The best thing that came from this generation switch was the adoption of unified architecture that allows porting to be done easier. Now more games are making their way to PC than ever before.
A generation switch nowadays is kinda just... business as usual. I'm not really that excited for new hardware anymore. The only exception for me this generation was the Switch, but nowadays it's all just such a formality. The hardware isn't anything to be hyped about anymore, as much as the games that will inevitably come to it. I feel like the middle-gen solutions like the Pro and X just exacerbated how little I look forward to seeing PS5 and Scarlett.
The best thing that came from this generation switch was the adoption of unified architecture that allows porting to be done easier. Now more games are making their way to PC than ever before.
Real talk, some petty-ass mfs in this topic.
Honestly only Nintendo was really known for this. Sony had the CD, DVD, and the Cell. That's it. Xbox had hard drives, Xbox live, and was a part of the modern controller design. That's it. Nintendo had Switch, Wii, Virtual Boy, Game boy, Wii U, Tiny console(GameCube), DS, and 3DS. They were the ones really throwing tech out there and seeing what sticks.
If that is truly what he wants then he should keep a closer eye on Nintendo instead of getting disappointed by the 4k twins.
I mean, the list is pretty long but honestly given how ill informed you seem to be about hardware innovation in the gaming space I'd recommend going through all the consoles that have come out as they released and make note of the innovations that occurred, even just surface level stuff like inputs or physical media, and then go forward and see what became standardized. and then consider the more technical side of things like graphics and sound. so that's for your claim about the only innovation on the hardware being motion controls. next we go to the claim that motion controls didn't last too long which I honestly don't even know what to say there. just look around. 'nuff said honestly. just crazy stuff tbh but hopefully that helps.
I guess he's missing the taste of some secret sauce.
Like it's been mentioned, it's a somewhat romantic viewpoint of changing generations, and in some way he has a point in that console warring aside (for some) it ain't really that exciting. PS5 and Xbox2 will have essentially the same architecture, which is basically off-the-shelf PC technology.
I guess Inaba also yearns for the days of Krazy Ken.
Like it's been mentioned, it's a somewhat romantic viewpoint of changing generations, and in some way he has a point in that console warring aside (for some) it ain't really that exciting. PS5 and Xbox2 will have essentially the same architecture, which is basically off-the-shelf PC technology.
I guess Inaba also yearns for the days of Krazy Ken.
What? Does he mean exotic stuff like PS2 Cell? The new generation cycles that forced devs to relearn new hardware each time? The same cool exotic stuff that inevitably falls behind pc hardware after a few years?
I remember western devs doing great with ps3 but all but the big japanese devs struggling with it. That doesn't sound like fun to me.
I remember western devs doing great with ps3 but all but the big japanese devs struggling with it. That doesn't sound like fun to me.
As others have said, you will never hear about an "Emotion Engine" again from a hardware manufacturer. Never. Did it account to anything? No, not really. But the hype and excitement did, the same with the hype surrounding the SNES and Genesis, PSX and N64, the Dreamcast and PS2, the Wii and the PS3, even the VR generation.
It was all real until (most of the time) it wasn't, but custom chips and hardware experimentations made for very exciting times that you will not get with turbo specced PC boxes. If you can't understand this very simple perspective, I dunno...
It was all real until (most of the time) it wasn't, but custom chips and hardware experimentations made for very exciting times that you will not get with turbo specced PC boxes. If you can't understand this very simple perspective, I dunno...
Inaba is just saying, in prior generations you used to have things unique to the console like the Cell Processor or other unique internals their competitors didn't have that made them different from a reconstructed PC. It likely is boring seeing how similar tech has gotten within the industry with the twins just taking PC parts and using it in their systems. He's nostalgic for when companies were trying new things unique to their systems, Google is trying that with Stadia which is a full streaming platform that uses Vulkan, whether that works out, we will see.
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