I wonder if W101 will sell better in Japan on the Switch. I'm surprised it sold so poorly considering the game takes obvious inspiration from masked hero characters in Japanese pop culture.
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Platinum 4 - PlatinumGames teaser site (First Reveal: Wonderful 101 Kickstarter, 3 more announcements to come) - See Staff Post
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I wonder if W101 will sell better in Japan on the Switch. I'm surprised it sold so poorly considering the game takes obvious inspiration from masked hero characters in Japanese pop culture.
I gotta say this stuff is really bizarre to me. This whole conversation began because PG wanted to and are now confirmed to port one of their original games developed with Nintendo as a publisher, yet somehow the prospect of other such titles receiving the same treatment is described as insanity. The knee-jerk reactions are truly ludicrous.
considering TMS did just under the Wii U version (not accounting for digital), W101 may perform similarly. most likely better, but not by any amount that'd matter
Because PG may want to, but it only matters if Nintendo lets them. TW101 didn't just happen because PG wanted to, I'm sure they'd love to put all their games on all platforms. It happened because Nintendo allowed it to.
Nintendo will not allow them to take AC And Bayo 2/3 multi platform because those are way more important to them and they'd have more to lose. Platinum even acknowledged that TW101 is a special case.
read the article it explains the unique opportunity Nintendo gave Platinum regarding W101
Inaba: It's up to Nintendo, it's unlikely. We consider this an exclusive case.
Era:
Or more like:
Oh you. ;) I'll take that to mean we've reached the inevitable "agree to disagree" conclusion of our back-and-forth.
Staff Post on what constitutes port begging
Official Staff Communication
Platinum has made it clear that they're willing to take a previous exclusive and release it on other platforms. With this in mind, until the rest of the Platinum 4 is revealed, speculating and wishing for their other exclusives to come to other platforms is not considered port begging and will not be actioned as such. However, non-Platinum games are not being included here as they are not potentially a part of the Platinum 4.
I mean, it says right there that they only managed said deal due to their good relationship with Nintendo, so how come a similar deal for another game is "literally impossible"? Especially if this could be something Sega could be seeking to do in tandem with PG? Anyway, the reactions of some people here have been wild (and wildly amusing).
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Bayonetta (1/2/3) is a non-Platinum game (in the sense of your post) since they don't own a bit of the IP.
Huh? We already had the Capcom 5 like 15 years ago...are they doing a new one?
I hope this isn't related to Bayonetta because they don't own it and 2 and 3 are Nintendo funded so they would be port begging
If the Platinum4 are going to resemble the Capcom 5, then it should be only 3 games.
They've made it abundantly clear that TW101 is an exception that Nintendo let them have. Astral Chain, Bayo 2 and 3 aren't coming anywhere else and letting people run around freely begging for them will only serve to make things worse in the long run.
The Bayo multiplatform discussion is preventing discussion of what the rest of the Platinum 4 will most likely be.
I'm convinced one of them will be a Viewtiful Joe spiritual successor.
Too bad Kamiya has gone on record to say he's too scared to make a survival horror title. Would be nice to have a spiritual successor to RE2.
Never say never. He said that and made one, Suda 51 said that and made one... :p
Until the other 3 games are announced, we have no idea what Platinum has up their sleeve or what deals they've worked out, so a person going "hmmm Bayonetta 2???" cannot currently be considered port begging from a moderation standpoint.
Blame Platinum or God. They opened the Pandora's Box.
The speculation is confined to this thread pretty much. Just bear it until the games are announced. Don't blow it out of proportion by reacting in a volatile manner to mundane posts.
As always, feel free to contact a Mod Captain if you disagree with this decision by the mod team.
The VJ successor is already the stretch goal for W101. It's happening baby.
They can be found in the Staff Roster under the Announcements section of the forum
Speculating multi-plat Bayo 2, 3, or Scalebound is the next reveal is pretty silly and exceedingly unlikely given everything we know, but it's clearly not really off-topic for this kind of thread. I don't have any issue with the ruling.
I mean, a western dev/publisher letting a Japanese company publish their game in Japan sounds pretty normal.
Ooooh, Bayonetta 2 would be good for ps4.
Nintendo/plat can't be making much money from that anymore.
Share the love lol. Especially with that collection coming out.
Nintendo/plat can't be making much money from that anymore.
Share the love lol. Especially with that collection coming out.
I think porting Bayonetta 2 to PS4/XB1/PC this year would be a smart move to promote Bayonetta 3 on Switch and give more people a chance to play a great game. The thing is that I doubt Nintendo feels the same way, unfortunately.
This is equivalent of the Nintendo Direct Speculation thread, a place where mods contain all the madness so that it doesn't spread in the other threads.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that with an exclusive sequel on the way Nintendo isn't going to give the okay on that one.
Ehhh, Sony is seemingly putting horizon on pc, probably to promote horizon 2 on ps5.
So I guess we can just keep quoting Platinum saying it won't happen as this isn't their IP? There's a pretty big contradiction in your statement by saying "However, non-Platinum games are not being included here as they are not potentially a part of the Platinum 4." (as in: this is portbegging for non-Platinum games) when it's basically all games that Platinum has worked on (minus Wonderful 101, described as a special case by Platinum themselves, and Astral Chain, which Platinum described themselves as not happening).
Seems pretty clear cut imo, unless the mod team hasn't read that interview.
Here's a link, it's a good read:
It's weird that the previous pages have warnings and bans applied to people asking for less port-begging, but none to those actually port-begging games which, following your statement, are non-Platinum games and thus shouldn't appear there (like Bayonetta 2).
I'm not sure what God has to do with that btw.
edit: anyway, I'd contact a mod captain about that, but I'm not sure it'd be read or that anything would change. Unless a mod captain wants to talk about it here?
Yeah but that's very clearly not Nintendo's business model. They're much more traditional with their IPs (and for good reason, since exclusives are so much more important to their business model). The only exceptions ever have been Devil's Third and Wonderful 101 which could not have been more dead when the original dev team asked for the IPs. Bayo is not in that situation.
You're the one blowing it out of proportion. Platinum co-owns the Wonderful 101 IP with Nintendo. They don't own Bayonetta and certainly not 2 or 3. They've stated these games won't come unless Nintendo allows it which would be discussed between SEGA and Nintendo. It's ok though I let a Mod Captain know of this
Well yeah, but they're not putting it on Xbox. At most you'll get Bayonetta 2 for PC if by some miracle Nintendo actually allows that to happen.
Usually what happens is that the mod will tell you they won't change their decision and the conversation will end. It's pretty rare for moderation teams on any forum to budge. At most they'll say "they'll take it into consideration".
Well the ones that dunked on those posters got warned or banned, so... (edit: dunking isn't a way to make advancing things politely anyway, that's dumb on its own)
But anyway, back on topic, I don't expect a new announcement this week. Pretty obvious they're focusing on W101 for now (which is good).
I didn't follow that piece of news but this Horizon port will be PC only, right ?
In case you missed it the first time around:
So yeah, it's possible if both SEGA and Nintendo are ok with it... Which will likely not happen. So impossible in the end, I guess ! :D
eh, let people speculate as much as they want about pointless things. it's clear that these are going to be new IPs, owned and self-published by platinum. even if bayo games were to come out on new platforms, it'd be sega who would handle the announcement (like they just did with bayo 1 and vanquish for ps4/xbo), not PG. if people want to set themselves up for disappointment, they're free to do so.
I don't see any harm in entertaining the possibilities at the end of the day, even though I'd prefer to discuss things I think are actually likely.
Also I don't think any more of these would be ports/remasters unless they are P* published. These 4 are described as "new challenges" for platinum games. I see that as a combo of new games/IPs and growing their self-publishing. Neither of which a Bayo 2 port to PC would be, I don't see that needing to be self published by them anyway.
An Anarchy Reigns PC port would be a nice challenge.
Not sure if I'm following the rules now.
I don't think the Platinum 4 are all necessarily self-published, just the four projects they're currently working on. In fact I'd be surprised if we saw another self-published game immediately... the Tencent thing just happened and they don't really have any other IPs lying around that make sense for ports. With that said, here's my best guess:
1. Wonderful 101
2. Bayonetta 3 (trailer shown in the Feb direct, put on Platinum's site after)
3. Nier 3
4. Babylon's Fall
I think in a year or two we'll hear about their first self-published new IP, but it seems too early to be any of these. Definitely could be wrong though!
1. Wonderful 101
2. Bayonetta 3 (trailer shown in the Feb direct, put on Platinum's site after)
3. Nier 3
4. Babylon's Fall
I think in a year or two we'll hear about their first self-published new IP, but it seems too early to be any of these. Definitely could be wrong though!
They have to remaster Viewtiful Joe eventually, right? They already did a great Clover Studios remaster with Okami HD. Now that's an "adult masterpiece" the people actually want, Capcom.
I hope Platinum and Nintendo work out a way to bring their catalog (not counting Star Fox, of course) over to PC. If you told anyone W101 would become coming to PS4/PC via Kickstarter a few months ago, you would have been laughed at. It's not super likely, but it's not impossible now.
