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Pillars of Eternity 2 is going turn-based, eight months after launch
- Thread starter BrokenFiction
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I prefer turn-based, but I'm still a bit skeptical about his this will work. If it is just an on-off switch I don't know that it's going to make the combat more engaging. Divinity's encounter design is entirely better than PoE's--so for the latter it's going to be a lot of very dry, "hit, be hit" (or, miss!) sections that feel grindy, assuming the stats involved are the same.
Hope it works out all the same. I'm glad they're offering the choice.
Hope it works out all the same. I'm glad they're offering the choice.
The vanilla/chocolate swirl is gonna blow their minds!
Reminds me of when people get upset over women in Battlefield/COD, since they weren't playable before it must mean that they should never be playable!
I definitely prefer RTWP but it's good to have options. My hope is that TB mode has a different flow of battle than RTWP, elevating certain skills and spells and lowering others. Might make for a whole new round of party-crafting.
I would understand this if the game was being completely redone and turn based was the only way to play it but that's not the case here. You can still play it the way you like.
Game adds turn based combat as an option for people who want it.
You: "I hate turn based combat! This is ruining the game!"
McDonalds offers new burger as an option for people who want it.
You: "I hate this new burger! This is ruining McDonalds!"
I assume they'll still have both. And PoE2 would have worked out better than 1 due to the gambit system anyway.
Game adds turn based combat as an option for people who want it.
You: "I hate turn based combat! This is ruining the game!"
McDonalds offers new burger as an option for people who want it.
You: "I hate this new burger! This is ruining McDonalds!"
Burger King is better.
It's not moving away from it. Unless they announces PoE 3 with turn based only in which case you can make your argument
Ohh for sure. I have no doubt RTwP will still be there, just that for consoles it's a much bigger selling point to also have TB. Even though the gambit system is superb and all you need, but that's a bit harder to market.
I'll be curious to see how this compares to DOS since everyone touts that as the best TB combat ever, yet I hate it. Just knowing how PoE combat works I actually think I could enjoy TB combat here as it shouldn't be so unbelievably slow and monotonous.
It's fair that PoE2 fans are concerned. Their only prior exposure to turn-based combat could be PoE2's ship combat, which is among the worst turn-based combat systems of all time.
(Seriously, I don't know why Obsidian didn't just cut ship combat entirely. Unless they patched it, the best approach is to ram the enemy and go into regular combat.)
(Seriously, I don't know why Obsidian didn't just cut ship combat entirely. Unless they patched it, the best approach is to ram the enemy and go into regular combat.)
I'M SO GLAD I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY STARTED THE GAME YET NOW. I'VE BEEN SO BUSY BUT NOW I'M JUST SO SO THANKFUL. THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS. THANK YOU LORD JESUS!
It's fair that PoE2 fans are concerned. Their only prior exposure to turn-based combat could be PoE2's ship combat, which is among the worst turn-based combat systems of all time.
(Seriously, I don't know why Obsidian didn't just cut ship combat entirely. Unless they patched it, the best approach is to ram the enemy and go into regular combat.)
I remember reading from Sawyer that initially they DID cut it out. But then at the end of the development Urquhart insisted on including it, even in the half baked state it was. And yeah, it was awful. Don't know how good the turn based will really work here.
All the fixes for this game they did were on the mechanical side, nothing for the story, pacing,characters or the ending, which is a bit of a bummer.
I've been trying to get through the first pillars game but the way the characters just lump together no matter what is a mess and was putting me off ever bothering with pillars 2. This is great news for me.
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Strongly disagree. I played and enjoyed PoE1, but I'm far more likely to give time of day to Deadfire (which I backed on Fig and have had sitting on my HDD for months) now that I have the option of using a combat system I actually enjoy. Never liked RTwP.
Yeah, super exciting because it means there is real balance and design consideration.
I will never ever choose turn-based over RTWP. Real-Time-With-Pause is superior and it's one of the reasons I prefer Pillars of Eternity over all the other modern western RPGs.
Oh! I didn't realise it was a discrete mode. Now I'm legitimately hyped.
Good work, Obsidian.
Good work, Obsidian.
No, singleplayer only.
Worst take ever. More choices for the player is better, especially when it will most likely sell more copies of the game and make the developer more successful.
I'm a bit surprised they invested the resources into this given the apparent poor sales of the game. Making the game TB is a major undertaking that would require a lot of rebalancing of skills, equipment, encounter design and more, not to mention the entire framework of TB combat. I'm still not super clear on Versus Evil's role as publisher, Paradox footed the bill and development of PoE's console version but I'm not sure it's the same kind of deal this time around. I got the impression it was more minimal and mostly marketing focused. I wonder if they're hoping for a decent boost in sales on consoles and if they'll have a noticeable marketing push for them and this new feature.
