They're more divisive then the original trilogy, but none of them are bad games at all so I'd say it's worth checking out the rest of the series. They're mostly 3DS/Mobile exclusive though, so that's something to keep in mind.
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy |OT| Turnabout Multiplatform
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One thing that's getting glossed over is how much better this sounds than the DS originals. It's staggering how much cleaner the audio is.
Yes.
I like how the art is better than the iOS version, but there's a certain undefinable charm to pixel art that makes me prefer the DS version for that one reason alone. Might still pick this up, though.
If you think you might like them, hell yeah. They're really good games.
It's one of the best series ever created, if you don't mind reading a lot then get the game right now.
The real lawyer episode on ace attorney is one of my favorites. Super helpful to real lawyers as well (I assume) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=om6BMBhhoPo
Will be picking up the Switch version very soon, replaying the 3DS collection to tide me over. This series is just so great! I'm very happy non-Nintendo/Mobile Phone folks finally get a chance to check it out (and I hope they do too!).
If I wasn't busy playing the English patch of DGS I'd be playing this right now
I'll probably get it for PS4 and Switch, I'm a huge sucker for the games on any platform, can't get enough
Also the series takes place in Los Angeles. Indisputably.
I'll probably get it for PS4 and Switch, I'm a huge sucker for the games on any platform, can't get enough
Also the series takes place in Los Angeles. Indisputably.
Luckily I've forgotten everything since I played these more than 10 years ago (eek!)
They're practically new games to me haha
They're practically new games to me haha
As someone quite critical of the post AA3 games, they're absolutely worth it. While I;d say none of them really live up to the original trilogy (outside of AAI2, a game that was never localized), they're still good games.
I'm of the opinion that the original is the best by a longshot, and I was also going through the motions continuing into 2, which I played because... well, I wished 1 could've lasted longer, but then I got to case 4 and it was so hype.
After that I couldn't not play Trials & Tribulations and I'm very happy I played it. I think the last game's plot isn't as good as its two extremely hilarious filler cases, but it's still a good plot and it's surely more plot-oriented than JFA, trying to go very grand and profound in its scope from the beginning. If JFA is too boring I wouldn't be against jumping straight into the final game either, but there's some references to story beats of JFA that are worth experiencing.
After that I couldn't not play Trials & Tribulations and I'm very happy I played it. I think the last game's plot isn't as good as its two extremely hilarious filler cases, but it's still a good plot and it's surely more plot-oriented than JFA, trying to go very grand and profound in its scope from the beginning. If JFA is too boring I wouldn't be against jumping straight into the final game either, but there's some references to story beats of JFA that are worth experiencing.
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JFA is so weird to me, because while I do think it's the weakest game, the final case is my favorite in the entire franchise.
I had the same feeling. To be fair, in hindsight it's no longer even close to the worst for me because I find its middle cases, give or take the circus one, to be above average compared to anything in Dual Destinies or SoJ. As dull as the premises can seem, it's the trial segments and character interactions that make or break the cases, and the more times I go back, the more I realize how much good writing there still is in JFA... it's just the lack of an overall arc to the game that drags it down.
Oh my god I'm so happy to be playing this again. I bought it on switch and will get it for PS4 for trophies. I love it so much.
I am legitimately envious of those of you playing the series for the first time. T&T is in my top 10 games of all time.
You missed one regarding godot on the first page.
This should be... interesting.
Edit: Oh God, casebooks in the background. PTSD already.
I think JFA has an arc, it's just a thematic one.
Both Case 2 and 3 have "sympathetic" killers and Case 3 has a relatively unlikable defendant, which I think is meant to symbolize a grayer moral compass to the characters than what you were used to in the first game, which is then of course taken to the limit with Case 4 featuring a defendant as the villain. JFA also starts in Case 1 with Phoenix literally learning what it means to be a lawyer, and in Case 4 this is reinforced symbolically as he grapples through this very concept again.
I think it's a little clumsier than later games, most notably AA3 and its constant use of masks, from the beginning to the very end, both symbolically and literally, serving the plot excellently. AA3 also has the most tight plotting of the series. But I appreciate JFA for what it aimed to do to add depth to the characters.
Yeah, you're right. It has a great subtext, but it doesn't have a hook, which can make it very aimless-feeling during the first playthrough, indeed. That's also why the last case slam dunks. It's not just a sudden rise in tension for that one case, it brings home the thread of what happened with Edgeworth after the first game and gives Franziska some really meaningful development, as well as Phoenix having to face his biggest ethical questions as an attorney.
Replaying this has been a lot of fun. There are so many small details you forget over time, so it's like a nice surprise remembering a lot of them.
And while the burgers joke has been beaten to death by now, the localization for the series is so charming. Lots of great puns and lines of dialogue.
And while the burgers joke has been beaten to death by now, the localization for the series is so charming. Lots of great puns and lines of dialogue.
It took me three playthroughs to "get it", but I will now stand by 2-3 as a well done, extremely tragic case
JFA is very good for a game that was rush written in like six months. 2-4 is godlike
JFA is very good for a game that was rush written in like six months. 2-4 is godlike
I finished the first (tutorial) case this morning, all good so far. Art looks much better in motion than in screenshots.
I had to go to work, I can't start the second case yet.
Quick question, probably already answered...
Do I need to be saving regularly, in case I do something wrong? Or will the game auto-save or rescue me from stupid decisions? Can I fail a case bad enough that I'd need to replay the entire thing?
I had to go to work, I can't start the second case yet.
Quick question, probably already answered...
Do I need to be saving regularly, in case I do something wrong? Or will the game auto-save or rescue me from stupid decisions? Can I fail a case bad enough that I'd need to replay the entire thing?
Yep.
Even though the crazies will have you believe the DS versions are better, which... sure, I guess..
If I like this should I play the ios versions of the games not included in this collection or the 3ds versions?
The iOS versions of 5 and 6 are incredible, and definitely the definitive versions of those two. I haven't played the AJ or Investigations iOS versions, but I've at least heard good things about the former's port.
Should, though you may need to set your system to Japanese (not sure if there is a language select). Know it works the other way around for the Japanese version.
(edit) For some reason I was thinking this was $40, $30 is such an attractive price but I don't think I want to replay the original trilogy right now. Once it's on sale for $20 or less though I'll rebuy it in an instant.
I have a Japanese account on my switch specifically for games that are like that (and to try Japanese eShop demos). Easier than swapping your account language/region.
(edit) And confirmed it straight up has the option in the menu so even easier.
I bought the trilogy on 3DS back in 2015, I finished the first game and absolutely loved it. I got to the last case on Justice For All and then got side-tracked. So happy this is now on consoles, going to continue my playthrough on the PS4.
Time to replay this trilogy in a foreign language of my choice :D
I'm tempted, but with so much of the game relying on logic puzzles, I'd personally flounder. If they were more recent in my memory so I could rely on that if I got stuck maybe, but it's been a decade for me and my Japanese isn't that strong anymore.
yeah JFA is objectively weaker than the first and third games, but JFA's highs are REALLY high
Time to replay this trilogy in a foreign language of my choice :D
I may use German to practice/learn it. Hmmm.
Hi! Is anyone else having an issue with the a controller on PC? The buttons prompts change on the fly depending on the input device but I having trouble getting the game to only display only controller buttons. Like the button icons under the dialogue box is for controller but whenever a button is mentioned as part of the dialogue its Keyboard controls. This happened pretty much throughout the tutorial case. Here's a screenshot of it happening (should be RB not TAB).
Any idea how to fix this?
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Any idea how to fix this?
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I suggest you Amazon.co.jp, I bought it when it was on offer and and I paid around 35€, shipping included.
Now it doesn't seem on offer anymore, but there are some left in stock I just noticed (I do not know for how much time, however).
I haven't played these since their original western release, so I've had enough time to forget half of it. Glad to see them holding up so well, I played for a couple of hours and I kept chuckling the entire time. Excellent port/upgrade as well. I can't recommend these enough!
The localization team's vision of Sal Manella (an Otaku in Japan) is based on the average internet creep who's a slob and it's incredibly hilarious: ""my ass is p0wned if I don't find it" Hope we get Apollo Justice, Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice next. And those non-existing official localizations of DGS1+2.
People can say what they want about 2-3, Acro is insanely well done as a character from a disability standpoint and some of Moe's lines are hilarious. 2-4 being incredible is usually well accepted as an opinion which is good.
People can say what they want about 2-3, Acro is insanely well done as a character from a disability standpoint and some of Moe's lines are hilarious. 2-4 being incredible is usually well accepted as an opinion which is good.