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Phione is objectively the worst Pokemon Game Freak ever created.
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What animal is this supposed to be?
And what does the name "Gyarados" (WTF name?????) tell me about a carp dragon?
It's clearly has something to do with fire. The name's also a tipoff for that.
Magmar may not have a lot of personality, but it stands out nicely.
And what does the name Pikachu tell me as a non-Japanese speaker?
It's just cute sounding. Gyarados is angry sounding. They get the job done.
I love Type Null. It's basically a Pokemon Evangelion.While some Gen 1 creature concepts are indeed lacking in creativity, the vast majority of the designs are cute and endearing. The simplicity helps with this, actually.
After Gen 2, both the concepts and designs got busier and busier, eventually to the point where some creatures are just a mess of lines combined with bonkers godlike/techno abilities.
Type: Null is the peak of that trend.
Type: Null was created by Faba of the Aether Foundation to be an "Anti-UB Fighting life-form". Codenamed "Beast Killer", Type: Null was developed with cells taken from all known Pokémon types. This was done with the intention of giving it the ability to shift between types by holding a corresponding memory, an ability originally inspired by the myths researched at Canalave Library. This ability led the Aether Foundation to give it the name Type: Full (Japanese: タイプ：フル Type: Full). Three known models of Type: Full were created, but all three rejected the RKS System and went berserk. After being subdued, the three Type: Full were given limiter helmets to lessen the effects of the RKS System's rejection and were put into permanent cryogenic stasis. Thus, the Beast Killer Project was deemed a failure, and the creature's name changed to Type: Null. At some point before the events of Generation VII, Gladion was able to free one of the Type: Null, which he adopted as his own in the hopes of finding a way to undo the effects of the limiter helmet and allow it to use the RKS System.
"It's clearly something to do with Fire"...No?
Magmar is a bird faced yokai lol
There's lots of Yokai pokémon in gen 1
pretty much all I need to tell me someone is a professional Pokemon Design Shitposter is when they just slap an image of Klefki down in a "checkmate, atheists" moment while ignoring that it's based on the pagan cultural idea of faeries being responsible for lost articles such as, very specifically, keys
some of y'all got no poetry or art in you I swear to god
some of y'all got no poetry or art in you I swear to god
Wait.... Exeggutor is based on a yokai?
Fuck me, this is is like finding out Venasaur was a god damn frog.
Exeggutor = coconut tree. The name was harder for me to wrap my head around.
Literally every single part of Type: Null's personality is in it's convoluted backstory.
Sounds to me like you're trying to justify later gens.
All of this information is communicated to the same degree with Type: Nulls name and design though. Type: Null is a creature that has a nullified typing. It's design is very obviously a chimera. And the latter is certainly portrayed more clearly than whatever the creature Magmar is based off is. By your own logic, Type: Null communicates more than Magmar does without any need to know its backstory specifically.
Exeggutor is this thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinmenju
I connected the dots after seeing a similar monster in SMT
I knew i wasnt alone! Everyone leave klefki alone! Klefki is an amazing pokemon!!
Real talk: nobody better be talking s#*& about Pyukumuku. That good boi saved my life in Smash Ultimate more than I can count.
Ive never met anyone who looked at mewtwo and thought it was like a cat. Pretty much everyone immediately jumps to aliens or space creature in my experience.
I've played and beat every mainline Pokemon game and yet I have no idea what you just said.
I wonder if Gamefreak could get away with retconning Phione and Manaphy to make them more akin to Carbink and Diancie for the inevitable gen 4 remakes or something. If anything it'd also settle the debate on whether Phione is supposed to be a mythical Pokemon or not.
It's funny and stupid that the Manaphy egg is limited to one Ranger cart only; meanwhile anyone who has Colosseum's NA bonus disk and/or EU Pokemon Channel can send over as many Jirachi as they want.
Yeah. Looking back, Jynx is pretty fucked.
Just awful....terrible
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OP
I've always been a fan of it but I think it looks bad in 2D...
I think it looks far better in 3D.
The name, cat-shaped head, and long tail weren't immediate tipoffs?
DONT YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT KLEFKI!!!I DISAGREE
Look at this piece of shit. I hate 'em. What the fuck? Why? This is the worst.
Edit: seriously though. It's great to use in game. Great as a prankster Pokémon.
Phione is creepy to me because it's a Pokemon that can only be born from the unholy mating ritual between Manaphy, a legendary, and Ditto. A legendary can't just fuck a Ditto. Manaphy could have any Pokemon he wanted, decides to settle with a formless blob of a creature, and his fucking son emerges. The prince of a prince. It's fucking gross
I've been playing Pokemon since Red, and I never acknowledged the existence of event Pokemon until Black and White. I realized eventually there were Pokemon I couldn't get, but I had no idea how to get them, nor did I care, quite frankly. I would have never imagined these kinds of distributions were happening at such extravagant lengths. I also thought Phione was Manaphy's child that had an inability to evolve for some mysterious reason, but since no lore reason was ever given for it, then yeah. Who cares about it? Pointless Pokemon indeed.
The Keychain, garbage, ice cream meme is good to spot users to ignore in future pokemon discussions.
I don't know if it's the worst but there is no Pokemon more phallic that's for goddamn sure
I can never understand the hate for klefki, vanillite and trubbish. It's always these 3 that are somehow bad yet the designs of some of the previous generations aren't? Like what in the world? I enjoyed my Pokemon games (played since the beginning) regardless of the designs but I'm not going lie and say that those 3 are the worst. We literally had a snake and cobra with their names spelled backwards, literal sludge, and rocks with arms and the later gens are GF "running out of ideas?"
On topic, I personally don't like phione or manaphy but I really wouldn't call either the worst.
On topic, I personally don't like phione or manaphy but I really wouldn't call either the worst.
Now....Farfetch'd
He gotta go. Has no purpose in the Pokemon world
He gotta go. Has no purpose in the Pokemon world
Klefki stole my keyblade.
I hate it.
Do Mega Evolutions count? Because I can't think of a pokemon that's more of a useless abomination than Mega Audino.
Who on earth asked for this.
Who on earth asked for this.
Come to think of it, I don't think there has been a single Pokemon design that I don't like. I personally really like all of them lol. Sure I have my favorites and preferences, but not one design has made me hate the Pokemon in question.
But OP was talking more about in terms of execution than simply design I believe. Cause looking back on it, I do remember working my butt off to get Manaphy and then Phione and being super darn proud of my accomplishment lol. Nowadays I don't think much about it at all.
But OP was talking more about in terms of execution than simply design I believe. Cause looking back on it, I do remember working my butt off to get Manaphy and then Phione and being super darn proud of my accomplishment lol. Nowadays I don't think much about it at all.
Do Mega Evolutions count? Because I can't think of a pokemon that's more of a useless abomination than Mega Audino.
Who on earth asked for this.
That's pretty cute, actually. Appropriate that it's part Fairy type. Vaguely reminds me of Clefable.
I just don't see the point. Mega evolutions are supposed to make the lesser used pokemon more viable, but Audino is still trash garbage with this. It's a worse Clefable.
I actually like this design more than vanilla Audino since it resembles the cute, helpful doctor-mon it's supposed to be.Do Mega Evolutions count? Because I can't think of a pokemon that's more of a useless abomination than Mega Audino.
Who on earth asked for this.
Do Mega Evolutions count? Because I can't think of a pokemon that's more of a useless abomination than Mega Audino.
Who on earth asked for this.
I dunno that i'd say anywhere near worst mon, but damn if I can comprehend how Audino was selected as the only gen 5 mega
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Seriously! Like I get the idea of mega evolutions is to put a spotlight on the not-so-great pokemon and make them somewhat useable but...it's still pretty bad lol So many fantastic pokemon in Gen V that could've used some more love.
I guess it must've been someone's favorite that worked on the games lol
I agree with this. I absolutely hated it's design in BW, but was pleasantly surprised when I ran into one in XY. We constantly hear about what Pokémon Game Freak messed up moving from sprite to 3D, but Druddigon looks much better.
I feel this way with a lot of gen 5 Pokémon. Their sprites were really ugly but the 3D models are fine.
Jynx aside I'd have to say crabominable is probably at the very bottom for me. What a weird jump from Crabrawler.
They probably picked it for merchandizing purposes, considering that Chimecho was somewhat prominent in the anime at the time as one of James's pokemon.
Oh, thank goodness, we've had a mention of Regigigas. There are a lot of bad normal pokémon, a lot of bad legendaries and mythicals, with grinding to become mildly useful (Cosmog), being thrown in with no rhyme or reason (Zeraora) and, of course, the diluted mythical in the OP, but nothing screams awful like a pokémon which more often than not has required catching a trio of legendaries from outside its generation, traded to the current game and is an absolute dud. It's ability discounts all its other merits and makes it virtually useless. It's like travelling around the world to gather exotic ingredients to make a cake and then the oven you cook it in ends up burning your house down.
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I don't think it the worst design-wise, but it isn't very rememberable. I actually forgot all about Phione until this thread.
While some Gen 1 creature concepts are indeed lacking in creativity, the vast majority of the designs are cute and endearing. The simplicity helps with this, actually.
After Gen 2, both the concepts and designs got busier and busier, eventually to the point where some creatures are just a mess of lines combined with bonkers godlike/techno abilities.
Type: Null is the peak of that trend.
To be fair, Type Null is basically "Armored Mewtwo" if that were part of the games.
His actual form and name as "Silvally" makes the whole "chimera Pokemon" concept much more obvious.
