You really believe that the only reason Vita died is because Sony didn't support it?
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Phil Spencer "VR is not a focus of Project Scarlett because our customers aren't asking for it."
- Thread starter MauroNL
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PSVR is a market leader in its category. PS Vita was a dud compared to the 3DS.
But nobody was asking for them to discontinue the Vita, so they worked hard on discontinuing it.
So instead of correcting a system that had a lot of growth potential, they threw it in the trash to chase an unproven market which was and still is way smaller than the success Vita had as a failure? They flat out ignored a lot of fans with that. Imagine if Nintendo just threw in the towel after Wii U and 3DS and just gave up on making systems because they performed poorly compared to their predecessors.
Sony punked out on handheld gaming in a ridiculous way.
He's not wrong, it shouldn't be a focus for them especially after this generation and how it has went. They need to fix the first party issues and put out a console on par or better than the competition before even doing that.
I also don't believe they are blind to leave the option for future vr out completely just not right now is it a big objective for them.
I also don't believe they are blind to leave the option for future vr out completely just not right now is it a big objective for them.
Was about to post this hehe.
VR doesn't align with Microsoft's generation-less (Xbox One baseline) & cloud-streaming vision.
Sony just saw that more people are playing on phones than handheld focused devices. Investing in VR and Remote Play looks better than another handheld.
I'd love to play around with VR on Xbox, but I'm kind of glad they're drawing a line in the sand here. I'd rather no VR than a half-arsed effort just to check a box.
I will be shocked if this doesn't happen at some point in its life.
It's probably something they will do but just not a priority for them right now
That's a very good point. Although you could argue they need to offer VR for their high end platform.
For Sony and their greater adherence to generations. PS5 and PSVR2 have huge potential to make a massive technological leap that will transform VR.
There was no growth potential in PS Vita. I can't believe people still think this.
You're saying the Vita had more growth potential than PSVR? This is ridiculous. Handheld gaming has contracted immensely, and VR is set to expand rapidly once the price/performance/software stars line up. And as for software, Astrobot is already rated higher than every Vita game ever made besides P4G. That already shows there is far more software potential in VR, and it's still in its infancy
😂 @ the idea that the PS Vita had growth potential. Vita was dead on arrival.
Regardless of what your thoughts are on the success of VR, claiming there are no interesting games being made is just plain wrong.
Nintendo Switch is doing great 🤷♀️
Wishful thinking.
Nintendo making a hybrid system should tell you all about the state of handheld market.
If it solves the problems PSVR has, I can see them making a PSVR2 port down the line. Valve has shown they're interested in the growing of the market itself, as you can see them literally advertising other headsets on HLA marketing materials.
Its also the only one on the market, and not solely handheld. If that doesnt tell you all you need to know, i dont know what could
"We have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity," says Microsoft's Don Mattick, "it's called Xbox 360."
Only Spencer is directly telling gamers to seek out their competitors.
I just don't think VR will really catch on until we get a Wii situation. I don't think add ons are worth developing for if you're short on resources. TV's and monitors are a proven commodity.
If someone gets a VR console out the door for $250 or under, I think that's when we'll know if VR will catch on or not.
If someone gets a VR console out the door for $250 or under, I think that's when we'll know if VR will catch on or not.
Nintendo made a hybrid system because their CONSOLE failed while their HANDHELD greatly succeeded. The Switch was meant to prop up and save tv gaming for them. The handheld portion of Nintendo was always doing great.
Next year you mostly won't being able to buy a new console alone for $400.
This. It's odd because he did a complete 180 about VR. A few years ago, before the release of XBX, VR was actually a focus for MS and him, allegedly. He even promised VR and VR games for XBX before the release of their console.
Well it's a weird situation because if your base isn't asking for it, logically you're not going to focus on that particular area and just focus on your strengths. But at the same time if you come out with an enticing product that takes people by surprise then that's a win too.
A lot of great things that came out over the years across all industries were probably never asked for.
A lot of great things that came out over the years across all industries were probably never asked for.
The cost and development time for VR is probably something MS can't handle right now, let's be honest nearly everyone would prefer MS manage to put out decent quality titles before anything else.
Exactly.
People asked for a normal Half-Life 3 for a decade. Now the VR prequel is the best selling Steam game.
He wasn't "demoted". Why people think that lol
If wasn't for VR (his passion) he would be retired
Yeah explain me why we aren't getting a stand alone handheld from Nintendo than if Switch is meant to save TV gaming.
VR is neat, but there are just inherent limitations to the tech that I just can't see them overcoming. It's incredibly immersive when I'm looking around and walking, but as soon as I begin interacting with things, it sucks me right out of it. The lack of tactile feedback and the disconnect when I pick up a massive gun in one hand and swing it around like a feather honestly ruins everything else VR does right for me. At that point, traditional games feel more immersive to me. The limitations of your physical room also cause similar problems.
A few select games built with these limitations in mind can work, but the vast majority can't and for that reason I can't see VR being more than what it is now.
A few select games built with these limitations in mind can work, but the vast majority can't and for that reason I can't see VR being more than what it is now.
He oversaw development of the two of the most successful games in Playstation history, and then he got demoted a year later... right...
I don't totally disagree with Phil but this is a good mindset to have.
