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Phil Spencer prefers frame rate over resolution - future titles will focus more on that
- Thread starter Earvin Infinity
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This just is not true at all.......It really does depend on screen size and how close you are to the screen. I think 8k is going to end up being pretty pointless though. Currently I have a 65" OLED and I sit about 6 feet away when I play and the differences are real between 1080, 1440, and 4k. Of course If it was a choice between 1440p/60FPS and 4k/30FPS I would choose the first every time, but the differences are real.
What kind of graphical downgrade would need to happen for a 120hz version on the current Xbox One X?
I know that everyone is thinking about a Xbox Series X version with 120hz, but I'm curious if it could already be done on an Xbox One X with certain compromises?
There should be some 3 settings and the res would be adjusted to this, like for example Shutter priority in cameras.
30 FPS with maximum res possible
60 FPS as above
120 FPS as above
let the speed dictate what resolution you get so to say.
30 FPS with maximum res possible
60 FPS as above
120 FPS as above
let the speed dictate what resolution you get so to say.
I did not promote that as Best Game Graphics of 2019.
My preferences, and what I consider impressive, made me choose other games.
I think we just had the problem of too many compromises on the PS4 and especially Xbox One CPU's this last gen. No matter what a game was aiming for sacrifices had to be made. Couldn't push too much physics, or too many things on screen, or if you did then all fidelity needs to go out the window, or if you don't want to sacrifice fidelity then you must sacrifice frame rates.....So glad we have strong CPU's in the upcoming new consoles.....
Yes, basically this. Something like 1080p120, 1440p60, and 2160p30 for every single game minimum targets. Maybe some games you see 2160p60, or 1440p120, or even 4320p30, but let every single game give you choices on the framerate / resolution you want to play at, especially games with competitive multiplayer.
IMO, this is not strange. If Xbox titles will focus on Jaguar compatibility, then they will easily have enough headroom on Zen2 to produce fast framerates.
Xbox One ports will run good on faster hardware. Gameply will (AI, physics, animation etc) remain the same on both generations so that all players will get same game (especially MP/coop) and that nobody will get too large advantage.
Xbox One ports will run good on faster hardware. Gameply will (AI, physics, animation etc) remain the same on both generations so that all players will get same game (especially MP/coop) and that nobody will get too large advantage.
If I had the money I would totally upgrade my PC and buy a new gsync 144hz monitor.
That does make a lot of sense, the CPU is a huge upgrade indeed. But I definitely expect that they can't maintain a 60fps framerate for games with huge detailed rich open worlds, little to no loading areas etc. And in that case I do hope they opt for visuals first. For example I can't see GTA VI being 60fps. That be crazy.
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That's why graphics and resolution options for next gen would be a good thing.
This has to happen! I've been playing Destiny 2 on PC at 144Hz with freesync and other games in Xbox like new COD at 60 and I can't stand to play D2 on Xbox at 30 it feels like the screen is flickering and gives me a headache now.
So.. when they wrote "8K" and paraded it front and center on their Series X chip , it was before or after they realised Framerate is in your face and more obvious of a difference to show folks a difference in games?
In that sammeeee Project Scarlett reveal video they also talk about 120fps.. Just giving devs then option on how they feel is best to present their art. I think the majority of us prefer frame rate but it's not like Phil is making some sort of last-second pivot or anything like you're implying
EDIT: Also it will be neat to see what kind of late-gen games can find a way to take advantage of 8k..if there end up being any. I could see a Gears title pushing 8K 60fps.. also Forza
What are you talking about? Xbox titles for the first 12 months at most you mean.
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Yeah but those readers are stupid as shit.
Don't think it'd be possible on X1X, we're CPU bound and there's just not enough horsepower. XSX should do the trick and there's plenty of TVs now that can also do 120hz. I doubt that a ton of games will support 120hz on XSX (at least not big AAA releases), so we've been thinking about that feature.
Nice. I'll see how this pans out on the next Xbox. If 60fps option becomes the norm, I'll be purchasing one.
30 fps is bad - no matter how good the motion blur is ffs.
Sony. Please take note!
30 fps is bad - no matter how good the motion blur is ffs.
Sony. Please take note!
I remember you discussing this in the XGS OT thread. Something about asking Microsoft to let you put out a 120fps patch for the XSX? Yes, I would be very interested in this.
Would love it if Phil or Booty came out and said all their XGS titles will be 60fps on the XSX. Framerates are why I switched to PC in the first place. Now that I'm ready to come back to the console land, it would be a big deal.
75hz or death
Seriously, higher fr are amazing, need more in my veins
I wonder if the Series X will be able to hit 4K/60 on a majority of titles. I just want to live in a world where 4K/60 is the norm and not 4K/30.
Shame Phil has no control over most developers, so I still expect 30fps games to be a thing.
Hopefully Series X and PS5 will have plenty of power though, so developers can hit 60fps while also delivering top quality graphics.
Hopefully Series X and PS5 will have plenty of power though, so developers can hit 60fps while also delivering top quality graphics.
Most of their first party already have implemented 60fps so I expect that to continue.
Me too, that's I don't see myself changing my 144 hz 1080p monitor anytime soon and when I do it will be just for one that can handle more frames.
I like Phil Spencer.
And he's absolutely right highlighting the feel of a game as such an important aspect. Games are interactive media after all.
So yeah, I also think that's where the trend is going. It already started with "performance modes".
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Worth every penny.
You'll get to a point when you'll start looking down at 60 FPS just like you would 30 FPS. 144 Hz is just too good.
My 3700X is ready for 120fps on Windows.
Thanks for your work.
