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Hitokiri03

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's amazing how much internet personalities can get away with.

Smh... Pick your fights ERA, the guy made a video on how YouTube is becoming more and more about corporate and less about creators and how his fight against T Series is just a meme now, and made a statement on how people should be supporting smaller channels instead, in the end he lists over 20 smaller channels and this is what your guys focus on?

The fact that many here actually believing the KKK tweet just shows how sad this whole situation has become.
This isn't the first time that he does some shitty to "questionable" things and when we put everything together (not that it needs to, the N-word incident made very clear) paints a very clear picture in who he is and what his views are.
 

Kurt117

Banned
Nov 16, 2017
12
Sweden
i get it that most media outlets try to be as pc as possible but god damn, era is basically the same too.
dunno why he shared that video, but how the fuck is his other costume considered a kkk thing?
 

Red

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Oct 26, 2017
11,636
You guys excusing this. Take a step back and think about what you're saying.

"Yes, he has complimented white supremacists on their videos. Yes, he's recommending Nazi propaganda to millions of children. And of course I don't like it. But he's just having a bit of fun."
 

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i get it that most media outlets try to be as pc as possible but god damn, era is basically the same too.
dunno why he shared that video, but how the fuck is his other costume considered a kkk thing?
Yeah, being against video channels that push Nazi propaganda and attack Jewish people is being soooooo PC.

Guys what's wrong with embracing Hitler. Why do you have to be so PC?
 

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,201
Let's be real. It ain't just gaming.
Let's be real, gaming is a fucking cesspool that has festered because a ton of people are apathetic to its general shittiness.
Time and again, gamers go out of their way to defend harassment, racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, because they're too afraid someone will negatively view their hobby. Only gaming went through something like Gamergate with so little pushback.

Feel free to accuse other hobbies on your own time, and live in the fantasy that every industry is as willfully ignorant of bigotry as gaming is. Meanwhile, people are defending for the tenth time the same asshole.
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
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If you're going to point out how many millions of people the Nazis of the 1930s and 1940s killed in order to contrast them with the Nazis of today, then you should take a moment to consider that the most Nazis of the 1930s and 1940s didn't have those numbers when they jumped on that train. Every single one of today's Nazis had to be able to look at the Holocaust in a history book and decide that, yes, the worst evils of human history are actually what they want.
 

Red

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Oct 26, 2017
11,636
Let's be real, gaming is a fucking cesspool that has festered because a ton of people are apathetic to its general shittiness.
Time and again, gamers go out of their way to defend harassment, racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, because they're too afraid someone will negatively view their hobby. Only gaming went through something like Gamergate with so little pushback.

Feel free to accuse other hobbies on your own time, and live in the fantasy that every industry is as willfully ignorant of bigotry as gaming is. Meanwhile, people are defending for the tenth time the same asshole.
It's not just hobbies. This is life. People be shitty.
 

Oligarchenemy

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Oct 25, 2017
2,332
We still got people here defending his ass. Why am I not surprised that the gaming side topic is a fucking trash fire.
 

psychowave

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Oct 25, 2017
1,655
Smh... Pick your fights ERA, the guy made a video on how YouTube is becoming more and more about corporate and less about creators and how his fight against T Series is just a meme now, and made a statement on how people should be supporting smaller channels instead, in the end he lists over 20 smaller channels and this is what your guys focus on?

The fact that many here actually believing the KKK tweet just shows how sad this whole situation has become.
what could possibly be more important than fighting fucking nazis lmao
 

WrenchNinja

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,733
Canada
Why do you some of you dumbshits continue to give him the benefit of the doubt after multiple instances of him doing this kind of shit? Why are some of you more interested in being pedants than what he is doing? What is your fucking malfunction?
 

Kurt117

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Nov 16, 2017
12
Sweden
User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing antisemitism; account in junior phase.
Yeah, being against video channels that push Nazi propaganda and attack Jewish people is being soooooo PC.

Guys what's wrong with embracing Hitler. Why do you have to be so PC?
You can't even praise anti-semitism on your platform of millions of followers (many of which children) without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!

what nazi propaganda exactly?!

pewdiepie tries to be really edgy and its just cringey, i wouldnt call it staight up anti semitism.
 

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what nazi propaganda exactly?!

pewdiepie tries to be really edgy and its just cringey, i wouldnt call it staight up anti semitism.
How about you actually research the channel he recommended before posting this?

It isnt just humor or trying to be funny. It is straight up legit literal nazi propaganda pushing an anti Jewish message.
 

psychowave

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Oct 25, 2017
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what nazi propaganda exactly?!

pewdiepie tries to be really edgy and its just cringey, i wouldnt call it staight up anti semitism.
even if he isn't an actual nazi and is doing it just for the memes lol (which i don't believe even for a second. also how old is he he should be way past that 12 year old boy humor), do you understand that "jokey nazism" just provides a smokescreen for actual nazis? making "ironic nazism" a thing just means that "real nazis" now have something to hide behind. no, you guys, i don't actually hate (((the jews))), i'm just one of those edgy guys! you know, like pewdiepie?
 
Feb 16, 2018
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He's awful, what's worse is that he's influencing his young audience and exposing them to these terrible views as normal acceptable things.
 

Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
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How many more chances will people give him? What will be that straw that finally gets people to stop defending him?
 

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Are Shapiro and Petetson really considered Nazis? I'm only very vaguely familiar with them being right wing media figures of some kind.
Shapiro is about as far right as you can get, he just pretends to be smart while he's at it.

Peterson is some weird adjacent type of sexist that shares the same audience.

I think the post you replied to was referring to the OP when they said "nazis" tho
 

GTAce

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Oct 27, 2017
4,163
Bonn, Germany
Oh I didn't say he was funny, I also didn't say he wasn't a possible right wing scumbag.

I was talking about the use of language but I will quit on that point.
Nazi, short for national socialist, a follower of a certain kind of fascism.
Everyone who supports this ideology becomes a follower of said ideology, i.e. they become a Nazi.
It's not that difficult.
 

CaptainKashup

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May 10, 2018
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User Banned (1 Week): Excusing the use of hate speech and slurs over multiple posts
Just so I'm 100% clear here... You were ok with PDP saying the N-word because it's more offensive in the US and you are ignorant enough to not understand how a word can be so offensive?

Wait.. What ? I never said I was okay with him saying it, what the hell.

Hello, I'm french too.
"We don't care as much as the meaning of the words here"
Sorry, it's wrong.
Have you ever heard anyone on French TV or media saying the N-word ?
Heck Jean-Marie Le Pen or Marine Le Pen are CONSTANTLY being called out for subtle use of words.
When Jean-Marie Le Pen said gaz chambers were a "detail of history" or when Marine Le Pen talked about "occupation". Sorry but we're in the top list of countries being EXTRA careful on words usage.
Heck, ffs, Macron had to justify himself so many times on his own word usage such as "pognon de dingue" or "tu m'appelles pas Manu" or "Jupiter".
Whenever it's about racism or anything else, we care a LOT about word usage.

I dont know if it's a cultural thing, but I know one thing for sure: In French, we CLEARLY understand the impact of some words. :)

I actually don't watch TV and especially don't watch interviews of racist pricks like the the LePen family. And of course, people needs to be extra careful on TV in every country, that's just the way it is.
I'm talking on a day-to-day basis, you won't ever hear someone use the word "negro".
Maybe I'm just lucky but I never had such a thing happening here, that's why I have the impression that people here doesn't care about the usage of that word.

The "I'm a European" card. Congrats.

How is it a card, I was basically just asking someone to explain things to me.

Listen buddy, I'm Italian but I also speak French and Spanish and I've lived all over EU. So you'd go up to fellow french POCs and calle them "négros"? Because you guys "don't care about the meaning of words"?
Bull-fuckin-shit.
There was fucking mayhem all over the Country when JP Gourlain said "working like a nègre" on TV and that is much more tame than négro (nigger)... anti-racism protests, boycottin JPG products and shops forced to be closed... but yeah, you never noticed anything because French people just don't care. Also what about all the other awful things PDP has done clearly showing what an awful human being he is?
But yeah, let's take the wait and see approach since he's clearly earned it.
You're not as smart as you think man, we can spot you a mile away.

I was far from born at the time, I genuinely never knew anything about that incident and I forgot who that guy even is, so yeah I never noticed it.
People can be awful but still be redeemed, at least that's how I feel. I don't want to be mean to no one and just want people to grow beyond their stupidity.

I thought he changed but he didn't and I won't defend him for what he did, how many time do I have to say it ?
And I never said I was smart nor do I think I am, what the hell.

CaptainKashup referred to the incident, in which PDP repeatedly used the n-word, as a mere slip-up.

Well, he said in a moment of rage. It was very wrong for him to say it but in this instance, since it was sudden and careless, it's called a slip-up.
I'm not particulary good at english but I do know that at least. I wasn't saying that it was something minor, that's not what I meant at all.

Don't take it to heart to much some people really love making others look scumfuck on resetera even if they show the willingness to learn.

I would like to but it's getting really annoying. I just wanted to learn and here I am getting bullied for it.
This is far from the "kind-hearted leftist" forum I was led to believe.
Anyways, I shouldn't have answered. I just want people to understand that I'm not trying to diminsh the issue at all.


Edit : It's been 3 years since this post and I still can't believe how ignorant and stupid I was.
To anyone I hurt with these posts, if you ever read this again, I'm sincerely sorry.
And thank you for educating me.
 
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NoName999

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 29, 2017
5,906
Gamers: Why are there people who refuse to call themselves gamers

Also gamers: I'm gonna use semantics to defend a Nazi by not saying he's really a Nazi. Besides, other entertainment has a major Nazi problem. Take for example......lol

How many more chances will people give him? What will be that straw that finally gets people to stop defending him?

"I really don't like this one particular AAA game!"

"HOW DARE YOU PDP! BURRRRRN!"
 

Dirtyshubb

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,555
UK
He also complained that, in the movie, Light has a girlfriend. When in the original it is heavily implied that he is gay. But yeah, I guess you did not see that or you omitted that part in your comment to nazi-fuel him.

Idk guys, I'm not a fan of his by any means, but having seen and talked with real nazi-minded people, I believe he's just joking. Maybe it is a careless behavior taking into account the age distribution of his audience, but I'm a deep believer in freedom of speech, specially in comedy.
He also used pictures from the Charlottesville killing of Heather Heyer and gave the example of how the Death Note worked by saying that if you wrote that a girl was gonna be killed by getting run over by a car but something stopped that (people being in the way) she would die of a hearth attack......

Lets not fucking mess around with this and start giving excuses and 'well technically..' responses shall we. The guy also has plenty of antisemitism in his videos too.
 

Datajoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Angola / Zaire border region.
Shapiro is about as far right as you can get, he just pretends to be smart while he's at it.

Peterson is some weird adjacent type of sexist that shares the same audience.

I think the post you replied to was referring to the OP when they said "nazis" tho
Shapiro sexist and racist but not full on Nazi. Doesn't make them any good though. The channel PDP recommended is literal Nazi propaganda however.
Yeah... it's not even a winking "lighten up I was only joking" routine anymore. It's straight up saying "go check out these Nazi propaganda videos". YT needs to do something here
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
49,979
How many more chances will people give him? What will be that straw that finally gets people to stop defending him?
I don't think there is one. No matter what low he sinks to, there are going to be people who want to do the same, albiti maybe they don't have the money or courage to do so themselves. Worse yet, you have the impressionable or amoral people surrounding him who simply never have the thought "is this acceptable" pass through their heads.
 

Polk

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Oct 26, 2017
4,215
National Socialists are recruiting children via PewDiePie?

Nazis caused havoc across Europe, Africa, Russia and the Middle East .....murdered millions.

It's a bit of a stretch to call this asshole a Nazi, infact it only serves to lessen the meaning and the impact of the word.

He is an edge lord at best ...... Saying these things because it is naughty ......closet right wing idiot at worst.
I'm soooo happy we are at last focusing on crux of the problem - semantics.
Are they literal 90+ yo Nazis or just neo-nazis (or whatever we call those nazi-adjacent idividuals).
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
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I just want people to understand that I'm not trying to diminsh the issue at all.

Well, he said in a moment of rage. It was very wrong for him to say it but in this instance, since it was sudden and careless, it's called a slip-up.
People can be awful but still be redeemed, at least that's how I feel. I don't want to be mean to no one and just want people to grow beyond their stupidity.

Assuming you have good intentions, ask yourself if what you want to be doing and what you're actually doing are lining up.
 

NoName999

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 29, 2017
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Well, he said in a moment of rage. It was very wrong for him to say it but in this instance, since it was sudden and careless, it's called a slip-up.
I'm not particulary good at english but I do know that at least. I wasn't saying that it was something minor, that's not what I meant at all.

Yes. Whenever I'm frustrated against fighting asshole AI in Smash Ultimate, I yell "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THE JEWISH PROBLEM"

I mean who hasn't done that when they're mad? Just yell racial slurs irrelevant to the thing that made you angry.
 

Jecht

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm soooo happy we are at last focusing on crux of the problem - semantics.
Are they literal 90+ yo Nazis or just neo-nazis (or whatever we call those nazi-adjacent idividuals).

It's a classic tactic for Nazi sympathizers. "Well they didn't murder millions so they can't be called Nazis"
 

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Yes. Whenever I'm frustrated against fighting asshole AI in Smash Ultimate, I yell "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THE JEWISH PROBLEM"

I mean who hasn't done that when they're mad? Just yell racial slurs irrelevant to the thing that made you angry.

Was about to say something similar.
We all get angry, but who yells "Y'all should watch this Hitler video" when they're pissed off? Ridiculous.
 

Abominuz

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Oct 29, 2017
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Does Pew really have some kind of hidden agenda and is it being pushed, or is he just a immature idiot who does not learn from his mistakes. I do not follow him so i do not know his character and what he does for views. But i have seen a couple of videos and he just seem to cater his young audience who still like the same stupid immature content. Some people just dont care or are so ignorant that they do not realize who they hurt.
 

Mistouze

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Oct 26, 2017
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i get it that most media outlets try to be as pc as possible but god damn, era is basically the same too.
dunno why he shared that video, but how the fuck is his other costume considered a kkk thing?
Not being down with nazis is pc now, bruh?

I thought that was just baseline "not being a dipshit" stuff but you do you I guess.

Does Pew really have some kind of hidden agenda and is it being pushed, or is he just a immature idiot who does not learn from his mistakes. I do not follow him so i do not know his character and what he does for views. But i have seen a couple of videos and he just seem to cater his young audience who still like the same stupid immature content. Some people just dont care or are so ignorant that they do not realize who they hurt.
Who gives a shit, really? You'll never know what's in his heart of hearts at the end of the day. But what you know, him recommending the YT channel of a straight up nazi, is indefensible. No need to get your junk tied up in a knot to know that.
 

Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
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Japan
How is it a card, I was basically just asking someone to explain things to me.

Hello. This won't be an attack. If you are posting honestly (and it is getting really hard to tell who is and who isn't) you should know that the "Just asking questions" is right out of the troll handbook.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

So even if you really are just wanting someone to educate you on the matter, people will naturally be suspicious. This is an issue many people are very passionate about and if you are not familiar with why people are so offended you probably should do some research before downplaying the statements or asking people to explain why they are offended.
 

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Does Pew really have some kind of hidden agenda and is it being pushed, or is he just a immature idiot who does not learn from his mistakes. I do not follow him so i do not know his character and what he does for views. But i have seen a couple of videos and he just seem to cater his young audience who still like the same stupid immature content. Some people just dont care or are so ignorant that they do not realize who they hurt.
He's not ignorant. All of this is done on purpose.