Someone that understands.
I'd be willing to give breh a pass if he's completely ignorant and unaware of PDP's past, but if not...
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PewDiePie recommends straight-up Nazi channel (Hitler speeches, calls to get rid of Jews, more)
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I'd be willing to give breh a pass if he's completely ignorant and unaware of PDP's past, but if not...
Fuck this idiot and fuck every bullshit "content creator" that advertises that 'Subscribe to Pewdiepie' nonsense.They'll ignore this just like everything else he's said and done. Fake complacent assholes.
Just a prank brah, he was only talking about them gems, not jews.
Honestly fuck him. How is nazism this prominent in 2018?
Honestly fuck him. How is nazism this prominent in 2018?
Does he have those? I don't think you can be outwardly anti-Nazi and knowingly associate your brand with the brand of someone who consistently does this sort of shit. Maybe some of his crew of subscriber whore "friends" are progressive/liberal in their personal lives, but I highly doubt any of them is brave enough to publically rebuke PDP for the shit he's said and done for fear of losing a huge chunk of their income. Hell, I'd fear for my safety if I did so, given how quickly his "friendly competition" for subs turned into a YouTube race war.
I would applaud anyone who took the step to at least disassociate themselves from him though, because the unconditional, selfish promotion of this one man's public persona from satellite channels in the Big Boy YouTuber Club™ is what's giving him lease to create and amplify bigotry to greater and greater audiences. If anyone needs to stand up and check his behavior, its the people lending him their viewership in exchange for his. Which is a distant hope since it means throwing away money for the sake of the public good, but I can only argue that further delaying this issue will only make the fallout when PDP inevitably crosses an even more unconscionable line in the future even worse. Or maybe the line will never be crossed, and these people will find themselves unwilling accessories to an increasingly brazen and erratic far-right ideologue with an increasingly radical audience they helped cultivate.
All I'm saying is that if any of his YouTuber sycophants have any moral scruples, they should demand an apology at the very least and not just ignore this as if they're independent from responsibility when they've spent weeks spending their social capital getting him a bigger audience to compete with a fucking international music label.
I dont think anything is pressuring PDPs class position though..
Yep. He's long since outed himself as a white supremacist. And people still support this trash smfh
Whether they speak up will say whether they're openly liberal or cowing to the weight of PDP's sub count.
Blaming Youtube and capitalism completely misses the point. If Pewdiepie is banned from youtube, he'll migrate to another platform or (god-forbid) create his own. Same with Trump. This is like solving a leak by slapping duct tape.
The fact that's harder to confront is that Western cultures (especially the US) have a wink-wink attidude towards racism and bigotry. Pewdiepie didn't come out of a vaccum. His audience didn't either.
Info Wars and Milo have yet to successfully birth a new platform for themselves. They were much more harmful when they were given space on the biggest social media platforms available. Deplatforming is effective.
Jones and Milo were also way, WAY smaller than PDP is. Dude has an insane amount of viewers & there's a lot of other big name YTers out there who are friends/supporters/big fans of his, and if he leaves or gets kicked out, you can bet a lot of those people would follow him out.
But they're both still here. And they both have such strong influence, especially Info wars which has access to the US white house. You may not see them on mainstream platforms but they exist for sure.
Milo is millions in dept and InfoWars is getting a miniscule fraction of the views they were previously getting. Their sphere of influence has diminished significantly.
Yeah, Milo is done for. Do you have any sources on IW traffic counts?
Ahh come on, "it's just a joke". He will put up an "apology" in a day or two saying "he will do better" and continue get huge amounts of money from Twitch.
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What a fucking garbage person, since the last few incidents he should have been erased from twitch and youtube.
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What a fucking garbage person, since the last few incidents he should have been erased from twitch and youtube.
"Sorry you got offended lol".
Absolute scum. Can we just completely deplatform all of Felix's shit on this forum?
The irony has always been a fig leaf to give assholes plausible deniability for liking to hear that kind of crap. Same thing as with that piece of shit who trained his dog. These dudes have always been gateways to the far right.
Edit: see the guy right below for what that far right defense force looks like.
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User Banned (Permanent): Defending Antisemitism. History of severe infractions and dismissing bigotry as just a joke.
No, if you watch him it's very ironic. Even in the tweets posted above, he mocks himself religiously because people always call him a Nazi, regardless of the charities or the number of positive messages he puts out. Not sure about who he shouted out or what not, but his content typically delivers a far different message than what this thread would suggest. He seems quite liberal (or one of those dreaded inbetweeners) as are most of the people he is actual friends with.
I can't vouch for the guy but I have watched some of his stuff mostly out of curiosity from all this stuff and he directly references this sort of thing and he is far from what I would call a Nazi or even attempting to be one... He just seems to be pretty bad at joking as he is extremely sarcastic, something people who don't take time to look into his material won't really pick up on.
I imagined it would be something like that. So it's basically bait and this thread fell for it.
It's still bad to even suggest that kind of channels (or even that kind of humor) when you have very young and impressionable audience. I have a young cousin that was telling holocaust jokes out loud nonstop when he was 11 becauso of those youtubers.
Then let them follow him to the garbage, where he belongs.
I don't really see these as reasons to not deplatform them.
Even if he is just "joking" - there should be at least some kind of disclaimer or a serious part in his videos explaining those "jokes" to the younger folks watching him. If he really is just that liberal, he is at best ignorant what his videos could cause - I mean, dude should know how many people are watching him. He has got some responsibility here. Life isn't all sarcasm - especially not when it's about the topics listed in the OP.
Explain the irony of endorsing a dude that views Jews as "the biggest threat to humanity's continued survival".
Remember to subscribe to his channel to make sure that non-white YouTube channel wins tho, amirite?
Ali I could find is an article from early September. While I remembered wrong that it's a miniscule fraction of traffic, after an initial bump after the visibility brought by his removal, traffic seems to have dropped to about half in a few weeks of what it was prior to the ban. But he has since also been banned from further stuff like Twitter, so I imagine his influence has dropped even further. And PayPal has removed his account so he can't push shitty supplements and merch either.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/technology/alex-jones-infowars-bans-traffic.html
As to how effective this has been, just think. How much do you remember his shit being discussed prior to the ban and now. Like, his Sandy theories were everywhere. Now? His rhetoric isn't getting as wide a circulation thanks to not being recommended to 99% of YouTube users.
this dude's 'ironic' edgy joke got some pro nazi shitbag 15,000 more subs and unknown amounts more influence/attention, but by all means, its just jokes and irony and memes or whatever
fuck man if i get stabbed and its a joke i still fuckin get stabbed
fuck man if i get stabbed and its a joke i still fuckin get stabbed
If you really think a guy who puts out nazi "joke" videos, says "die nigger" on stream and recommends a nazi speech channel - is liberal, then I am not sure what more I should tell you.
In no way was I suggesting that this wasnt effective. Just wanted something a bit more concrete about the traffic IW is getting. Thanks for the link, will read it in a moment.
But Jintor, maybe you can learn something form the person stabbing you, while the attacker learns something from you?
Have you thought about that?
I will be here in the middle, which is good place to be!
or something
Yeah, that's it. His humour is so cutting edge and clever, we just aren't capable of processing it.
OR, could it be that he is just smart enough to be aware of how base-line stupid and gullible his acolytes are that they'll bend over backwards, or forwards, to defend him.
It's not like there's any sort of wit to these 'jokes', and nothing about the tone is ironic. You'd need to be some sort of unfathomably dense motherfucker to keep toeing that line.
PDP is antifragile in a way Alex Jones and those other clowns just aren't. At this point he can easily get away with dropping the "sorry I got caught" formality with no reputational damage from the crowd he cares about. Callouts bounce off him and basically just inflate his victim complex. And remember, the parasocial nature of YouTube culture makes any perceived attack on an e-celeb tantamount to an attack on their entire fanbase. So in the end PDP wins, gets a chip on his shoulder and his fans get even shittier and more tribal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
YouTube is like a giant honeypot for sociopaths, grifters and reactionaries in society to congregate around. I really don't understand this e-activist impulse to want or think you can police the scum on it. Google is 100% an enemy in the equation as well. They are not a knight in shining armor.
YouTube is like a giant honeypot for sociopaths, grifters and reactionaries in society to congregate around. I really don't understand this e-activist impulse to want or think you can police the scum on it. Google is 100% an enemy in the equation as well. They are not a knight in shining armor.
Even if it's meant in jest it's irresponsible, plus, tons of kids like him they aren't going to view it as farce, either way it's giving traffic to shitbag.
well, sometimes, just sometimes it ain't true, but this...this i can't defend too, nor i want to.
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Don't take it to heart to much some people really love making others look scumfuck on resetera even if they show the willingness to learn.
There's no defence for this and he should be removed from all social media. He is a cancer of Youtube
I still feel slightly insulted when someone pulls off that rhetorical trick.
Can someone explain how gems = jews? Like are gems something in the steven universe show that are like villains or is it just some completely random word?