the dumb bastard can't help himself
legit needs his ass kicked off of YouTube forever
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the dumb bastard can't help himself
legit needs his ass kicked off of YouTube forever
I think newmoneytrash means that considering there were so many people truly defending PDP that his/her sarcasm might've gone unnoticed by some.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying ramifications of hate speech
Are you actually saying Pewdiepie wants people dead and killed? How fucking sick are you.
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Do people in this thread do not know what radicalisation is?
How do you think people turn into killers like this? They're already unstable and people influence them with their rhetoric.
How do they spread their rhetoric? With their words. Speech matters, speech influences, hate speech causes hate and hate causes hurt.
Promotion of hate speech, whether ironically or not, spreads the word of hate to people who then may act on that hate. Most people don't, it only takes a few to act on the hate people spread.
PDP didn't make the guy pull the trigger, but he clearly is implicated and if he wasn't involved in the far right, maybe, just maybe this guy wouldn't have been pushed over the edge.
Normalisation of hate online is becoming a really big problem and it needs addressing.
How do you think people turn into killers like this? They're already unstable and people influence them with their rhetoric.
How do they spread their rhetoric? With their words. Speech matters, speech influences, hate speech causes hate and hate causes hurt.
Promotion of hate speech, whether ironically or not, spreads the word of hate to people who then may act on that hate. Most people don't, it only takes a few to act on the hate people spread.
PDP didn't make the guy pull the trigger, but he clearly is implicated and if he wasn't involved in the far right, maybe, just maybe this guy wouldn't have been pushed over the edge.
Normalisation of hate online is becoming a really big problem and it needs addressing.
Yeah I get that but it is an immediate response to what's happening. It's a little better than say hes sickened.
oh piss off and learn to fucking understand what people mean you dense fuckwit
He doesn't seem to care that his audience might want people dead and killed. How sick is that?
Here's how it'll go:
"HEY BROS ITS PEWWWWWDIEPIE!!
LISTEN, THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO PAINT ME AS THE BAD GUY. HOW IS IT MY FAULT? I DIDNT SHOOT THOSE PEOPLE. I DISAVOW ALL FORMS OF HATRED EVEN THOUGH I CALLED A GUY THE N WORD ON STREAM. THE MEDIA IS BIASED BECAUSE THEY HATE YOUTUBERS LIKE ME.
SO I ASK YOU BROS TO SPREAD THE HASHTAG #PEWDIEPIEISINNOCENT ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA. SPREAD. THAT. HASHTAG."
He felt it ok to make fun of Charlottesville where people where killed and send dog whistles to alt- right from his 70 million subs platform. So maybe?
The fish are really biting today.
Yes, the poster calling out the person who is active fostering a community filled with hateful rhetoric is the sick one.
Not.
Pretty hard to defend the guy when his name has been something people shout before committing terrorist attacks.
Of course not. He's their poster boy, their success story. It sucks really, he's one of many that needs to be de-platformed.
Pretty easy. Just log on to an alt throwaway and be purposely dense/obtuse.
The guy has been indefensible for so long that I'm not surprised that the people that were defending him yesterday are still doing it today. PewDiePie is a human dogwhistle for white supremacy.
Internet and social media are not synonymous. The internet is great when you ignore Twitter, Facebook, Youtubers, streamers, 4chan, 8chan, reddit, etc. Works for me.
That's not entirely accurate. Nordic made a Tweet about their AMA, which someone on a forum saw and made a thread about, which a media outlet saw and wrote an article about, then other outlets saw that article and wrote their own articles about it. I didn't even know 8chan existed until I read about it on this forum. Most people don't follow Nordic's twitter channel so if nobody had reported about it, it wouldn't have gotten any attention and I would still be blissfully unaware of 8chan's existence.
Now, you can argue that bringing offensive things to light is the only way to stop them. Sometimes that's true, sometimes not. However, 8chan isn't going anywhere and it's only gained a lot of exposure as a result of the coverage. The same is true of all the troll "games" on Steam. When you're specifically trying to be controversial, you actually want negative press because that means you've accomplished your goal. It also means you're more likely to reach your intended audience (i.e. people who share your views and thrive on seeing their "enemies" get angry).
User Banned (2 Weeks) Downplaying hate speech
Maybe this has absolutely nothing to do with Ben Shapiro and you shouldn't bring someone else into the discussion to further your own agenda.
This is an incredibly sad and upsetting act. Don't muddy the waters unnecessarily.
This is why you should always curate and control your message/ audience. I'm nowhere near the level of influencer of PDP, but from day one I've been conscious of each and every piece of media I create: my words, opinions and attitudes therin.
Perhaps because I am a writer by nature, I innately understand that words have as much power as guns do to weaponize and destroy. You have a responsibility as a public figure to own your speech and the consequences, both good and bad, which come from that.
Perhaps because I am a writer by nature, I innately understand that words have as much power as guns do to weaponize and destroy. You have a responsibility as a public figure to own your speech and the consequences, both good and bad, which come from that.
Hell if every right wing source or sympathizer on the internet chose right now to print truth, be empathetic to marginalized people, actually spread a message of true equality and flatly and unequivocally renounce white supremacy, the KKK, nazism, etc. things actually could start to change. You'd actually start to suffocate and choke out the fire of xenophobia, racism, sexism, homophobia etc. that has infected so many parts of the world. We as a culture would actually have a chance to put our hateful pass behind us and move forward. I put this same point in another thread but such a drastic, singular, wide reaching change would change the way we talk about economics, about wealth, about education, health, war, criminal justice, just so so much. But people like PDP and Ben Shapiro and Baked Alaska and on just keep on doubling down on either spreading the rhetoric and/or reinforcing the beliefs of people who are desperate, violently desperate in seeing the people they hate die even at their own expense.
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I just cant anymore.
How hard is it for these people to see that their words/social media can carry such a weight.
The thing is stuff like this happened before the internet, but it was less widely broadcast. The internet isn't the issue, it's how we as a species deal with mental health, education and politics. Politics has become a shit show, its a shouting match now and maybe it always was. Rather than having civil discussions with each other Politicians are teaching people indirectly to go to the extreme to make their voices heard (shutting down government in America over the wall for instance).
This is awful news to wake up to. RIP to the innocent people :(
EDIT: I guess the internet at least does give people like PDP who can influence people like this an easier way of doing so, otherwise they'd need to do it in person like a lot of cult leaders did previously which severely diminishes their influence.
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THQ Nordic linked to 8chan in their Twitter post and decided to hold their AMA on 8chan. The onus is completely on them for making that decision, outlets then reported on exactly that as they should have. The blame lies squarely on THQ Nordic for holding that AMA.
Also, "they're not going anywhere" is defeatist bullshit.
The whole Turning Point US and all of their associates are complicit in this.
Im really fucking sad that Josh Olin is coming to PDPs defense, the fact he is trying to relate it to the game series he worked on and what PDP has done and continues to do is just so strange.
https://twitter.com/JD_2020/status/1106437761551208448
He said nothing to or for the victims of NZ either.
https://twitter.com/JD_2020/status/1106437761551208448
He said nothing to or for the victims of NZ either.
You'd hope so, but that would entail him admitting he was wrong to make content the way he has been, and... I'm just not sure he has that in his character.
and maybe it has everything to do with people like Ben Shapiro you dumb motherfucker
Ben as long fanned the flames of what was behind tonights attacks. Which was probably why the name was invoked. I would advise against a defense of that.
Yes, the guy who writes articles like "Yes, Islam is at war with the west" and makes videos titled "They myth of the tiny radical muslim minority" has absolutely nothing to do with the spread of the ideologies that that lead to this tragedy.
It has everything to do with Shapiro, the people he associates with and others just like him.
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Ben Shapiro has been fermenting this shit for years. Don't fucking lie.