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Pete Buttigieg: "The people who wrote the Constitution did not understand slavery was a bad thing."
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He knew this. He's a history major with years of education. This is taught in grade school/is apparent to anyone with a slight interest in the development of the constitution or the writing of our founding documents.
Pete just lies and whitewashes any issue without care.
* Pete walks into a barbershop*
Pete:" You know who the top 5 Rappers of all time are...."
While on music duty at the cookout Pete switches out Lemonade for a Lynard Skynard greatest hits cd.
Hey Pete,
Black guy here. Seems you need more black friends or at least more black staff members. For a small...well lets be honest, it's going to be a large fee.. Ill quit my job and help you from making these gaffes that anyone could see a mile away. I dunno, maybe there's a high quotient of cringe voters out there that you're pandering too...but really guy, you're fucking up in a way where I feel its an Andy Kaufman performance piece.
My plan is going to be simple, we are going to go out and you're going to hang out with black people. Not for votes, not for photoshoots, just like...talk. HANG. Maybe watch some sports, enjoy a family dinner, maybe a fun game of spades. Because this weird 'I am trying my best not to come off as racist but instead I come off completely clueless and racist' shit isn't working man. I am used to seeing ivy league upper class white people succeed and if your fumbling the ball on basics like 'slavery is bad', we are all doomed cause y'all run the world.
Call me
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Black guy here. Seems you need more black friends or at least more black staff members. For a small...well lets be honest, it's going to be a large fee.. Ill quit my job and help you from making these gaffes that anyone could see a mile away. I dunno, maybe there's a high quotient of cringe voters out there that you're pandering too...but really guy, you're fucking up in a way where I feel its an Andy Kaufman performance piece.
My plan is going to be simple, we are going to go out and you're going to hang out with black people. Not for votes, not for photoshoots, just like...talk. HANG. Maybe watch some sports, enjoy a family dinner, maybe a fun game of spades. Because this weird 'I am trying my best not to come off as racist but instead I come off completely clueless and racist' shit isn't working man. I am used to seeing ivy league upper class white people succeed and if your fumbling the ball on basics like 'slavery is bad', we are all doomed cause y'all run the world.
Call me
love Krazen
He can fuck off with that. Those white men didn't want to pay those high ass taxes to the crown let alone be a slave to someone else so theres NO fucking way they didn't know slavery was bad.
It's from 2014. He was 32 and the mayor of South Bend at the time.
Yeah, this has kinda flipped a switch for me regarding the man. He seems unsuited for healthy, informed command of our nation.
This is five years old, and he is more than open for reexplaining his views, but the man has been tipping a while for me.
No he didn't. He freed 5 of them. And then had one their families split up and sold.
He sold nearly all his slaves before he died because he was in huge debt due his lifestyle and constant construction of his home.
Washington was the one who freed his slaves after he died, or rather after his wife died. He also made provisions to have the informed and elderly among them to be cared for by the estate.
I think if there is ever a documentary on his campaign, we will find out dude started getting high off his own supply. He was approached by people that saw he was getting buzzed and got him hyped up and Pete started feeling himself
Aye. And for anyone interested, here's a Smithsonian article about Jefferson, Washington, and their differences on slavery throughout the years (and each's evolution and devolution):
Yeah, Tommy here was not ignorant about what slavery was. Dude just wanted to make quick coin and to rape to his heart's content. Even George Washington, fellow slaver, saw him as a little bit extreme at that time. And I'd like to think that 1770s Thomas Jefferson would look at 1800 Thomas Jefferson as a bit of a monster.
100%.
George Washington is genuinely one of the most incredible figures in world history. He had a ton of faults, but no one else could have done what he did, with the integrity he did it with.
Only slightly related, but I'm a Washington fanboy.
Yes, and he knew it was wrong. We're talking about whether or not slaveholders knew it was wrong. He did.
You had anti-slavery movements in the middle ages. There was never a point where there weren't at least some people going "hey, this is kind of fucked up", but there have also always been people finding justifications for it.
Even Robert E. Lee wrote a letter to his wife where he casually drops that slavery is obviously wrong, it's just that he goes into a huge rant about how actually it's good for black people and how white people are hurt by it more.
Even Robert E. Lee wrote a letter to his wife where he casually drops that slavery is obviously wrong, it's just that he goes into a huge rant about how actually it's good for black people and how white people are hurt by it more.
Pete is the blank slate candidate of choice for the Democrat donor class. He has no integrity and can be molded to their desires. Except, he's clueless on race issues if not straight up dismissive. Dude sucks. Not even remotely ready to be a representative let alone president.
He did, he inherited them, and he evolved his opinions on it over time, freed the slaves he owned, provided for their welfare, and spoke about the essential moral bankruptcy of the institution.
The ability to admit you were wrong and then work to improve the situation as best you can is a sign of strong character.
This man has no black support, no interest in getting black support, yet I'm told constantly he's a Serious Threat™ in the primaries.
We gotta live with this cause Iowa wants to be first even though it should mean nothing.
Also I think the primary system is bad at picking candidates and it's wrong that political parties have hijacked official election infrastructure for them. It's weird that nobody even questions why we have the primary system in the first place. I feel like the parties have convinced the American public (with the media as willing participants) that they are just a law of political nature when they don't have to exist.
And we can thank Lafayette for it, mostly. He debated Washington into coming around on it.
He could have done more, could have recognized the error of his entire being, sold off his portions of the estate, and use the funds to free all his slaves and those of his wife's family. He did try to sell some land, but failed to get buyers, and failed to convince his wife's heirs to free their slaves. But he did more than the rest of the founding fathers so.
100%
Not sure what the bolded means, but he did die pretty suddenly. Who knows what else he would have done if that had not been the case.
He did a lot, and considering the environment he grew up and lived in, that deserves to be recognized.
This is where I am with it. He did too little. More than others, but too little.
he's not smart. he's ambitious, amoral, and credentialed, which is what america likes to present as smart.
same deal with basically every big silicon valley name.
Not ignorance.
But that's fine. Pete has shown he's a racist multiple times, and people continue to give him the benefit of the doubt, so whatever. Won't matter to the trash that supports him.
But that's fine. Pete has shown he's a racist multiple times, and people continue to give him the benefit of the doubt, so whatever. Won't matter to the trash that supports him.
"over their ability to profit from said blacks," is the nuance I would add to this already correct statement. I add that because Americans act as if the profits VS humanity is a delicate argument nowadays, but it's as old as the country.
Buttigieg's willingness and ability to put on blinders for the wealthy and lean-racist majority makes him a candidate I don't want in the general. I don't think he has the average American's interests in mind, and I don't think he would listen to those that do. Down there with Tulsi and Bloomberg.
He made his new will freeing his slaves in the Summer of 1799, and died in December, falling seriously ill and dead within a day. Good point.
Out of the Southern Founding Fathers, he freed the most significant and substantial portion of his slaves vs his counterparts, (Northerners also freed their slaves but arguably, the economic impact on them was probably much less than on Washington). A quick look at Wikipedia shows Robert Carter freed the most slaves in this time period, but faced resistance from the law, and his heirs but it was successful through it took a long time.
Its also notable to note that freeing slaves occurred due to rising costs for upkeep, so probably some portions of those freeing slaves were motivated with no longer having to take care of them. In that sense, Robert Carter and Washington's wills did attempt to ensure the freedmen would get assistance from the estate beyond what was mandated by law.
Through both could have just sold off their estates to fund the freeing of slaves. I wonder how much resistance their heirs would have offered, and if they could overturn those decisions, had they occur?
