I don't play games twice, I can wait if it's going to be something different enough for me to care about, I'm only on the 2nd palace so still within restart range.
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Persona 5: The Royal announced for Sony PlayStation 4; Additional Info @ Persona Super Live 2019 (4/24); RPG + New Character Teased (see staff post)
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I don't play games twice, I can wait if it's going to be something different enough for me to care about, I'm only on the 2nd palace so still within restart range.
Are you a completionist? Because you won't be able to fully beat Persona 5 in one playthrough.
Yeah, if all this is just for an added arcana ... it'd be kind of a disappointment.
But this is being listed as an "RPG" and not DLC or add on content, so I'm hopeful its either a full separate stand alone release, or a straight up P3 Portable with MC and FeMC.
If you are that early in the game then yea, wait until next month and see what this is before continuing the game.
No. Other than a talk show where the guests take 10-15 minutes to effectively say, "I wonder what this could be?"
I think it was hinted that we'd get some new SMTV info ( which personally, i find more exciting), but no new P5R info.
If you're actively enjoying it and playing it, I'd say keep going. I played Persona 5 for the first time starting November 2018, finishing in Feb 2019, and I had a blast. I figure...
1) Atlus isn't known for being fast or for doing fast localizations. Fastest we could possibly get this in English would be end of the year, but I think 2020 is more likely.
2) If Persona 5 Royale is a standalone expansion (like the post-game scenario in Persona 3: FES) or is a major remix/remake to the point of feeling like a new game (like SMT4 Apocalypse), then a year or so after beating Persona 5, I could definitely see myself not feeling burnt on playing through Persona 5 (it's really long) and would be in the mood for playing new content.
3) If Persona 5 Royale isn't a major remix/remake of Persona 5, but is just Persona 5 with some enhancements and an extra dungeon/character (like Persona 4 Golden), then I'll be glad that I didn't wait to play it when I wanted to play it now, and I can always get it in on sale when I'm in the mood to replay the game whether that's immediately when it comes out or years later in a sale.
If you're not actively playing it and enjoying it, then I'd say wait and see if the new game changes your mind.
It is too fast too assume it is a standalone game. We are talking about atlus here, most likely it will be a dlc and repackage
It's because this is Atlus that we know this is a standalone game.
Atlus never does DLC expansions, I think its safe to assume they arent starting now
No. Im not seeing that coming. If what you meant is similar with LL to vanilla UC4, No i dont think so. However...
....if it turns out to be a repackage instead of dlc content. Well, it is yet to be seen
The game came out 2.5 years ago in Japan. 3 years to make a SMT4 Apocalypse style game where they heavily reuse the previous games assets to make a new game would hardly be unheard of. Like an alternate reality If scenario where the Phantom Thieves are the villains & the new FeMC teams up with Akechi & others to fight back could work.
It would kind of suck to have all the characters you like be the villains now tho...
Yeah... plus the Phantom Thieves are meant to be heroes providing a voice for a downtrodden generation. I feel like it severely undercuts the power of Persona 5's message if they decide to portray the Phantom Thieves as villains.
Anyway, I'm curious to see what they do with this new girl. My first guess is that she will become friends with the Phantom Thieves eventually, somehow. But who knows, maybe they'll do something different.
The intention behind the Phantom Thieves' morality in Persona 5 itself was designed to be ambiguous. Their goals were right, but the means were always put into question. This is a duality Hashino wanted to highlight, and it's definitely something that has room to explore that wasn't in the original game. This trailer once again puts that into question: is forcing someone to change actually helping society? Is that justice?
Portraying them as antagonists isn't necessarily portraying them as villains. It could be like Golden Sun > Golden Sun: The Lost Ages, where two opposing parties are actually fighting for the same cause, but in different ways.
Oh, did Hashino say their morality is meant to be ambiguous? That wasn't how I read the story at all. I read the story as being about the importance of sticking to your personal ideal of justice, despite society's attempts to sabotage you and make you question yourself. About keeping your courage in the face of the cynical masses.
Well, regardless of the author's intent, I think I prefer my own interpretation of the story. I personally don't see the need to examine the Phantom Thieves as villains. But I won't write off the idea completely. Maybe they could surprise me and make that interesting.
Besides all the public opinion stuff in the game (are the Phantom Thieves just?), there are several moments in the game where the actual Phantom Thieves discuss if what they're doing is actually right or if they've made a mistake.
Anyway, there are many ways they could handle a Phantom Thieves as antagonists story. They could have it take place during Persona 5 and have you eventually team up with the Phantom Thieves. Personally, I think it'd be fun if they had it take place after one of the bad endings in Persona 5 (and in such a case, you might still be able to team up with individual members of the Phantom Thieves depending on how things turned out - maybe one of them disagrees with what the group did or maybe you can convince somebody of their error).
The fact that this is coming out on a platform that already received the regular game makes me think this isn't going to be a Persona 4 Golden scenario where they add an extra dungeon & character and make some general gameplay improvements and call it good, simply because I don't think a lot of people are going to be willing to pay $60 for something like that (and I don't see Atlus selling it as DLC since that's now how they work). I'm thinking we're getting an expansion pack worth of new content like The Answer, an outright new game that is directly connected to P5 (whether it's a sequel, an alternate reality take, or takes place simultaneously but follows a different group of characters), or a FeMC option that changes things up a bunch (like you pick FeMC and Haru is the first character to join up).
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Personally I rarely like when a continuation spans a bad ending, makes the journey feel pointless. I feel like they *can* do it, but I dont think I would *want* them to do it. P5 frames them as shadowy and explores the method being dubious a little (would have liked to see more of that, but it was a long game, I dunno how time factored), but they are never seen as desiring some evil. They were always trying to do the right thing in the end. So if they did have the characters been seen as evil it kind of takes me out of it because we know they arent and if it is stemming from the bad ending they arent the "real" versions of those characters.
Yes.
The game itself presents this dichotomy quite explicitly. Multiple times, the Phantom Thieves wonder if what they're doing is the right thing. It all starts off with Joker and Ryuji hesitating because they don't think they should change Kamoshida's mind forcefully (and also the risk of killing him), but they decide to go ahead because there is no other choice.
What this trailer is showing is the other side of the coin for the theme that was explored in Persona 5.
The main brunt of the theme was activism. What this could represent is another way of achieving this. Like, the Investigation Team in Persona 4 were really about what this trailer is conveying, while the Phantom Thieves were about a more aggressive approach.
Why Lupinranger Feat. Patranger didn't have moment like this ?
The Show pretty much is Steal is Right Justice is Bad.
Their methods are questioned multiple times throughout the game, even by themselves. Obviously they managed to free the people who were being oppressed by the villains so the end justifies the means, but forcing your way into someone's mind to cause that change, especially when there' s a risk of killing that person, is obviously not an ideal solution from a moral point of view. I think that's obvious.
To be fair, Persona 5 had you teaming up with Ryuji, so Akechi would still make way more sense.
I'll be alright with this side story idea as long as the two groups join up in the end. Pull a Golden Sun the Lost Age.
Though I'm still just hoping for a traditional FeMC myself.
Though I'm still just hoping for a traditional FeMC myself.
My guess is that this will be a Persona 4 Golden situation. It won't be DLC, it will be a stand-alone game. It will include some QoL features and new mechanics. Nothing absolutely crazy, bit they will expand the experience and make it better. The girl, I don't know if she will be the FMC like P3P, or a new character like Marie. My guess is the latter.
This is how I read it too. "Rebel against society" and shit, though there was always the nagging feeling that this power shouldnt actually be held by everyone and you could fuck up very fast like
Akechi
Spoilers for Persona 5 ahead
So, it's looking more and more likely that the game will have some focus on Akechi (unfortunately)
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
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Spoilers for Persona 5 ahead
So, it's looking more and more likely that this is an Akechi based game (unfortunately)
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
These were found by @regularpanties on twitter
I'm legitimately expecting that his murder of Futaba's mother and Haru's dad gets retconned out.
If this is a standalone title like people are suggesting, Im getting increasingly worriedSpoilers for Persona 5 ahead
So, it's looking more and more likely that this is an Akechi based game (unfortunately)
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
These were found by @regularpanties on twitter
Fuck. Well, I'm out.Spoilers for Persona 5 ahead
So, it's looking more and more likely that this is an Akechi based game (unfortunately)
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
These were found by @regularpanties on twitter
Just from the teaser seemed pretty clear that Akechi would have more focus.
Makes sense when the new character also opposes the Phantom Thieves, would expect the two of them to be paired up for a bit.
Makes sense when the new character also opposes the Phantom Thieves, would expect the two of them to be paired up for a bit.
Spoilers for Persona 5 ahead
So, it's looking more and more likely that this is an Akechi based game (unfortunately)
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
These were found by @regularpanties on twitter
This actually makes sense, wasn't he set up as the ying to Ren's yang? If this game is a SMT4a style it could be the game's events from his side of the world. That would also explain the new character. He'd obviously need a team as well.
All I want is a Golden like treatment of the game. Add more challenge, add more fun side stuff and events, actually make the class trip to Hawaii a real fun trip, a LOT more party interactions to help define the friendship in the group, bring in Haru as a party member a LOT earlier, maybe even add the the cut Shogi girl as a party member as well. No thanks to a stand-alone game, and definitely not an Akechi game. Dude is a scummer through and through...
But unfortunately this is Atlus and Akechi is super popular...oh boy.
But unfortunately this is Atlus and Akechi is super popular...oh boy.
Spoilers for Persona 5 ahead
So, it's looking more and more likely that this is an Akechi based game (unfortunately)
Persona OA, a mobile app in japan, released some brand new Akechi PT artwork a few days ago before pulling it and replacing it today with his old artwork. No doubt this was supposed to be shown off AFTER the full P5R reveal.
Here's the new art
And here is what they replaced it with
These were found by @regularpanties on twitter
That is so stupid that I want it to be this so I can know what they came up with that made them think this was a good idea. I will be legit disappointed if it's just something like Golden now.
Now that I think about it some more, it may still be FeMC. But she's on Akechi's side with him as a romancable character. That seems like something they'd do considering his popularity. Are any of the other guys popular as love interests?
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I mean he just murdered innocent people, give him some slack guys. Naw I'll pass on this game if it has anything to do with that asshole.
You gotta spoiler tag that. Maybe there are some people here interested in playing P5 for the first time.
Most of them are actually. Yusuke in particular but Ryuji has fans too.
I don't think the revealed character is FeMC, She's wearing a 3rd year outfit and in the reveal she's talking about opposing the phantom thieves?
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