going to buy it anyway as I love some good Musou games... more likely for my switch then my PS4
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Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers announced (PS4/Switch, Musou, Atlus x Koei Tecmo) (See Staff Post)
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Master Chief, Kratos (Father), Tracer and Arthur Morgan omg
I get the impression that would go over better than this.
Anyhow...uh, wasn't expecting this! I was rather hoping for a port of P5 myself, and I don't really feel compelled to play this. I don't really have a strong opinion otherwise.
Christ this thread makes the ff13 on the xbox reveal seem like that lacked some salt for its time. Like god damn some of the people here are acting like children by how petty some of the replies are. I get being disappointed because what you thought was going to happen didn't. but man wishing for the game to bomb, thats a low.
I know right? Good thing we got Final Fantasy 7 when Cloud was put into Smash 4.
Oh wait...
I just wanna beat the fools up with Makoto P5S
ohgod, is Makoto gonna get bike combos
are we DMC5-ing it?
ohgod, is Makoto gonna get bike combos
are we DMC5-ing it?
People said over and over that Persona 5 S was not "Persona 5 but ported to Switch" and said Koei-Tecmo is probably involved. And yet we still have a 1500-post thread that built up over a mere four hours filled with people upset that this game isn't the thing people said that it wasn't going to be.
I get, like, not wanting to have a Musou game (and honestly when I saw "Persona 5 Scramble" my first thought was "holy shit they actually are making a shmup?") but boy do I not want to be in the room with any of you guys when the modestly-updated Switch turns out to mostly only have improvements in internal storage and battery life
I get, like, not wanting to have a Musou game (and honestly when I saw "Persona 5 Scramble" my first thought was "holy shit they actually are making a shmup?") but boy do I not want to be in the room with any of you guys when the modestly-updated Switch turns out to mostly only have improvements in internal storage and battery life
They announced it as an action RPG and the only other collab Musou that got that label was Dragon Quest Heroes so odds are it'll be something similar.
I see Makoto wielding her Persona while Dante is ever so slightly blurred out in the back giving a thumbs up of approval
Still holding out hope for P5 for Switch.
You think Joker's as much of an icon as Cloud?
Persona=Playstation
SMT=Nintendo
anybody disappointed should remember this, its basically law at this point
SMT=Nintendo
anybody disappointed should remember this, its basically law at this point
It strikes me as a little weird they'd put Joker in Smash without having his main game on Switch, especially considering that P5S isn't coming out for a while so there's no way to really tell how popular Joker is with Nintendo audiences. Maybe Sakurai just really liked Joker and the P5 aesthetic, or he figured Joker would suit Smash well and be good promo for P5S. This announcement is weird decision, but didn't we get that one poll asking players what series they'd want to be turned into a musou game...?
idk, I enjoy them well enough. I can't play a ton of them, but Hyrule Warriors was fun to play through and just beat up on stuff for a while. This one looks pretty, and I'm sure it'll be fun enough, so I'll probably get it. Honestly, I'd rather this is the case than having P5R be a definitive edition while P5S is a port of the original with only a little Nintendo-exclusive content; that would have just pissed off Switch owners too.
This is also a valid point! I think a lot of people just got their expectations up, especially since the DS and 3DS tended to name ports/remakes/new entries with the DS or 3D naming scheme.
Huh? They weren't exactly quiet with SMTIV, SMTIV:A, Dx2, or Deep Strange Journey. SMTV is a different team and producer from P5/PQ/P5D. We probably haven't heard anything about SMTV for a few reasons. P5 was a bit more popular, yes, but they already had the frameworks in place for P5D and PQ, considering that they're sequels; SMTV is their first time using Unreal Engine from what I can tell, so it's naturally going to take a bit longer as they figure out its capabilities and what they want to do with it. Besides that, since they were able to finish the Persona spinoffs faster, they're naturally going to focus marketing on the games that are coming out sooner--there's no sense in promoting a game that won't come out for at least a year and might change as development goes on. Look at how angry people got over puddles in Spider-Man changing slightly between previews, for instance; why would any developer want to subject themselves to that?
Until P5, ATLUS was pretty good about not announcing games until shortly before release. P5 had a restructuring happen behind the scenes because of the earthquake, which might explain why it took so long from announcement to release, but since Nocturne, the vast majority of Megaten games + spinoffs have been released within a year or so of their announcement (P4D is the biggest exception other than P5, but even the other games that took longer than a year were still within a few months of the year mark).
Besides that, AAA game development takes time. It's been just over 2 years since SMTV was announced, with full-scale development only happening barely over a year ago. Of course they're not going to give many updates on it.
idk, I enjoy them well enough. I can't play a ton of them, but Hyrule Warriors was fun to play through and just beat up on stuff for a while. This one looks pretty, and I'm sure it'll be fun enough, so I'll probably get it. Honestly, I'd rather this is the case than having P5R be a definitive edition while P5S is a port of the original with only a little Nintendo-exclusive content; that would have just pissed off Switch owners too.
This is also a valid point! I think a lot of people just got their expectations up, especially since the DS and 3DS tended to name ports/remakes/new entries with the DS or 3D naming scheme.
Huh? They weren't exactly quiet with SMTIV, SMTIV:A, Dx2, or Deep Strange Journey. SMTV is a different team and producer from P5/PQ/P5D. We probably haven't heard anything about SMTV for a few reasons. P5 was a bit more popular, yes, but they already had the frameworks in place for P5D and PQ, considering that they're sequels; SMTV is their first time using Unreal Engine from what I can tell, so it's naturally going to take a bit longer as they figure out its capabilities and what they want to do with it. Besides that, since they were able to finish the Persona spinoffs faster, they're naturally going to focus marketing on the games that are coming out sooner--there's no sense in promoting a game that won't come out for at least a year and might change as development goes on. Look at how angry people got over puddles in Spider-Man changing slightly between previews, for instance; why would any developer want to subject themselves to that?
Until P5, ATLUS was pretty good about not announcing games until shortly before release. P5 had a restructuring happen behind the scenes because of the earthquake, which might explain why it took so long from announcement to release, but since Nocturne, the vast majority of Megaten games + spinoffs have been released within a year or so of their announcement (P4D is the biggest exception other than P5, but even the other games that took longer than a year were still within a few months of the year mark).
Besides that, AAA game development takes time. It's been just over 2 years since SMTV was announced, with full-scale development only happening barely over a year ago. Of course they're not going to give many updates on it.
One sided back scratching.
Atlus: Promote our games by putting our niche character in your best selling fighting game/series of all time!
Nintendo: Cool, can we get a port of the game too :) ?
Atlus: Lolno
jesus
joker is a fun character to play as in smash and that's it. that's the sole reason they added it. let it go. the more games the better, you don't have to buy them.
This is probably not how the conversation went at all. But a lot of hurt fanboys are trying to push the narrative that evil Atlus backstabbed Nintendo and got away with it.
Wanting the game to bomb out of spite because you deluded yourself?
This where Persona games were going to be announced so I doubt they would announce a port later.
My thoughts. I waited for the Musou game that appealed to me. Almost got Berserk, but I waited and finally I was rewarded
Just ignore the part where Sakurai wanted Joker because he loves the game.
It doesn't matter. It never mattered. Nintendo probably figured there was enough overlap to get Persona fans to buy the DLC. That has nothing to do with whether or not P5 would actually be on Switch.
ah ok that makes sense then. so that basically kills all hope for a switch port anytime soon, lol
No, but we don't know that yet.
I'm not wishing for the game to bomb or anything but I just find it annoying that at this moment they're giving people a game no one really asked for (yes, I'm sure some of you did) but not the one everyone wants.
With Joker's appearance in Smash, it made sense.
It could still happen, but til then people are gonna be annoyed by this move.
Well this looks intriguing. Going to have to see more footage first before buying though.
Yep, that's gonna be a fun thread. :D
Welcome, a new generation of gamers, to the joy that is the perpetual disappointment cycle that is Persona announcements. Usually it's a "I expected nothing but I was still disappointed," but, damn, this is brutal.
However many units this sells could have been bettered tenfold by a port of the RPG. Sony must have an obscenely good contract set, is all I have to say.
However many units this sells could have been bettered tenfold by a port of the RPG. Sony must have an obscenely good contract set, is all I have to say.
I'm part of the crowd who thinks Joker doesn't fit in Smash at all and has little reason to be there outside of being a big ad, but I'm actually pretty excited for this. Love Hyrule/FE Warriors and the game looks fun so hopefully it launches later this year so I can check it out on Switch. This is a spinoff I don't mind existing (unlike Q2 where all the characters look horrible)
No one says its unplayable, but its the type of game that works better on a handheld.
I played the game on PS4 and would probably not play it again since it dragged, but it would have been a better experience even on a vita than on PS4.
The thing is, I don't see this game doing well on Switch at all, especially in Japan. Atlus whole strategy for these spin offs seems to be to milk the existing core audience with overpriced deluxe editions and DLCs up the wazoo, it might work for the PS4 owners but no way it works for Switch owners who are basically a new audience that has very minimal attachement to the world and the characters of P5. Selling the spin off before the main game seems just really backward.
There was a very clear and logical path of action to take and Atlus seems to dance around it.
There was a very clear and logical path of action to take and Atlus seems to dance around it.
Everything 3P is pretty much multi plat these days maybe it's time for Atlus to get with the times.
Except that Sakurai asked for Joker becaue he loves the game.
Feel free to continue the fanfiction though.
Why are people surprised that it wasn't a switch port again? Teaser site was always hinting at something new.
I thought Nintendo sorted out all the DLC characters and Sakurai didn't have a say in it?
sometimes folks own both a ps3/ps4 and a nintendo switch
(but on the other hand, their spin-offs generally do not perform super well compared to the main games so)
(but on the other other hand, musou games are generally cheap to produce so it doesn't need to do super well)
Sakurai didn't pick Joker, or any of the DLC sans Piranha Plant. Nintendo did.
I am personally a little disappointed because I have never played a Persona and I was toying with the idea of playing 5 if it came to switch.
But that's a personal problem. It does seem a little funny that so many fans are upset about getting new content instead of repackaging an older game. I guess expectations ran down the wrong track and it took too long for them to set everyone back on course.
But that's a personal problem. It does seem a little funny that so many fans are upset about getting new content instead of repackaging an older game. I guess expectations ran down the wrong track and it took too long for them to set everyone back on course.
Who said anything about back stabbing?
If Nintendo's gonna promote the fuck out of your game it would be, y'know kinda cool for you to port the game he was on for Nintendo/the fans.
We'll see how this works out for them though.
If Nintendo's gonna promote the fuck out of your game it would be, y'know kinda cool for you to port the game he was on for Nintendo/the fans.
We'll see how this works out for them though.
I know I've told people not to be surprised, but man even I'm having trouble wrapping my head around all the folks coming out of the woodwork acting like Joker in Smash was a selfless favour Nintendo did Atlus.