They still don't let you stream the whole thing? That's incredibly wack. What are they thinking?
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Persona 5 Royal - English previews (UP: Western localization will address homophobic content)
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They still don't let you stream the whole thing? That's incredibly wack. What are they thinking?
Someone on that team FUCKING LOVES gay jokes. Fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES them.
Also I don't believe him.
Catherine Full Body taught me not to trust these people at face value.
Hope the new localization pass really does address some of the awkward word salad from the original P5.
Yeah, Hashino. He's a raging bigot.
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Some executive decisions would ideally appeal to the jp team but i don't think that's happening any time soon unless Sega goes and does it for them. Writing around the problem will be the best the localizer team can do in this situation, and with Catherine full body not getting there, perhaps some better efforts can be made here. It's still mostly on the Persona studio to actually do something or listen at the very least, but if the complaints don't come from their own region it seems it will take some time.
1000 times cooler than Ren. But this seems to be a trend, as Soji Seta was cooler than Yu Narukami.
Previews sound good and the localization changes are great news. It's been 3 years so I'm ready to revisit the game, really looking forward to seeing all the changes and additions.
that's good even if it should also happen on the jp side of things.
Well you're getting an Akira in Scramble at least.
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Yeah, Hashino. He's a raging bigot.
The Phobic Crimes of Katsura Hashino (Director/Producer, ATLUS)
WHAT IS THIS? It was suggested by several members in the ongoing thread about the Catherine: Full Body scandal (see below) that a "megathread" be created about the man responsible, Katsura Hashino. The purpose of said thread would be to educate Era users about his views, works, and the...
Absolutely, but he isn't the only person who writes for Persona, and he wasn't even involved with 5 Royal - the message saying it was hard to green light changes implies there are more than just him at Atlus gleefully defensive of their shit homophobic jokes. It feels more cultural than just Hashino, especially granted it was still in Royal, and I don't expect it to get any better from the JP side just because Hashino isn't involved anymore.
My understanding is this comes back around to them not wanting to mess with the original content too much as a sign of respect (no matter how misplaced) to the original team. that's my understanding why they don't really reference Persona and Persona 2 that much in the larger cannon. Proof will be in the pudding with future games (so far P3D, P4D, and PQ2 are better).
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Wow imagine being outrage over a video game that doesn't fit your ideology.
You should see the comments on the GameXplain video lol
I hate Gamers™
Yeah literally the first comment.
(That card would actually be sick but I already bought the game digitally.)
Glad to hear the localization team addressed the issue as best they could (given what ATLUS-JP gave them). I'll pick it up, if only to have a slightly less homophobic version of what is otherwise my favorite game of 2017.
Yes, the most American sounding name you can have in Japan.
Reminds me of this
Love after watching the Gamexplain video on it Youtube decides I want to blame SJWs and that fact that ResetEra is too powerful and we caused it to be "censored". Any ways, those fucks can eat shit. Transparent as hell and exactly as I said, this is pure content for these dumbass youtube reactionaries who don't contribute anything to the world.
It's pretty funny to see cause they're pissed off that some shitty joke is gonna get altered and crying foul about how the game is "marred by censorship" but they're probably gonna buy it anyway
They're losers lmfao
Just saw that thumbnail and I couldn't help but laugh and select "don't show me videos from this channel".
To be fair, I distinctly recall this happening with Tokyo Mirage Sessions back on the old forum, ahaha.
There are QoL changes that make it easier to increase stats and such. For instance where you would normally be told to go to bed by Morgana you can now still do things around Leblanc.
And that's why it probably shouldn't be Akira; it's practically "Killer Killer". It's so over-the-top edgy, it's like a kid moving to a new school and giving themselves a badass nickname to reinvent themselves.
"Back in the city I was called Neil, but now I'm Bloodsoak McAngelSlaughter III."
Sadly they would have to do a complete re-write to sort the issues I had with the game.
Almost very female character exists as a waifu character, they totally doubled down on that from the previous game and the writing takes a big hit be cause of it.
It's so tone deaf to have one of the early themes of the game being a male teacher sexually abusing a student bu then later on have the protagonist be able to date his fucking female teacher.
The Futaba one is pretty disturbing too, it's basically grooming a younger girl and really leans into the neckbeard obsession with finding younger, inexperienced women/girls.
The doctor was less problematic but really made no sense to me, why on earth would this woman be interested in dating a high school student? But of course, imagine the outrage if the sexy goth character wasn't dateable.
Almost very female character exists as a waifu character, they totally doubled down on that from the previous game and the writing takes a big hit be cause of it.
It's so tone deaf to have one of the early themes of the game being a male teacher sexually abusing a student bu then later on have the protagonist be able to date his fucking female teacher.
The Futaba one is pretty disturbing too, it's basically grooming a younger girl and really leans into the neckbeard obsession with finding younger, inexperienced women/girls.
The doctor was less problematic but really made no sense to me, why on earth would this woman be interested in dating a high school student? But of course, imagine the outrage if the sexy goth character wasn't dateable.
Don't forget about the fact that said teacher essentially moonlights as a prostitute outside of school and you 'befriend' her by having her come to your house at night.
The funny thing is that I (naively) thought there was gonna be a decent resolution to that, like they were making some social commentary on women in Japan being forced into difficult positions.
I didn't even know that her, Futaba and Tae Takemi were even datable characters because it just makes no sense, I assumed that any flirtatious dialogue options with them would count as bad choices. It's hilarious how much faith I had in the writing going into the game.
The whole thing felt that they'd written a good script with some interesting social issues, then they did a second pass to add in all the stuff for the basement dweller crowd.
I think they were lost the second they had "shitty adults" as the driving force behind the script. They could've told a story about expectation and societal pressure and inequality but in execution, it wound up basically just being a bunch of immature brats yelling "take that" at a world they have no understanding of.
I've seen multiple channels stream the whole thing. Atlus needs to realize that threats mean nothing if you don't actually back them up.
Yeah they should have just reasoned with the rapist, mob boss, abusive fathers, and such.
I mean the proof was in the pudding with Catherine Full Body. Hashino wasn't really involved in that either and they doubled down on that. It's not just Hashino -- it's obvious it goes beyond him and that there is a really bigoted culture to some lesser or greater degree at Atlus, at the very least within the writing staff, and probably fostered in part by Hashino's "leadership".
The topic says "western" localization but unless I'm missing something we only know about the english version. What about the other western language subtitles? Will they follow the same localization choices made by the US team?
But wasn't that developed at Studio 0 with him at the helm?
Unfortunately, Atlus West invited known abuser, racist, & overall asshole RelaxAlax to the P5R preview event. I won't link the video here since he doesn't deserve the clicks, but you can find it if you want to see it.
Because at least Atlus West is doing something about the homophobic content if Atlus Japan won't do shit, & it's better than just leaving it as-is.
Probably because atlus Japan wouldn't retool it for them and this is the only option they had to make it less offensive. Also what's wrong with removing content that is universally offensive?