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People writing porn about minor internet celebs who aren't pornstars just creeps me out.
- Thread starter ItWasMeantToBe19
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Writing real-person fanfiction over minor celebrities is bad enough, porn is even worse, but the absolute bottom of the barrel is people writing porn over minor celebrities who are also minors. Just, whyyy
These are bad arguments. Just because it's fringe (it isn't really, ao3 is a big website with millions of pageviews a day) or that some of it is done by teenagers, doesn't make it less creepy when the overwhelming audience is adults.
How old are we talking here? I haven't heard if these guys.
Ao3 is godsend for fanfic, but RPF is one of my major squicks and I'm really disliking this new trend of them along with the sudden popularity of Character/Reader fic. It's not Mary Sue, it's third person!
Getting old, these kids need to get off my lawn.
Getting old, these kids need to get off my lawn.
I say this as someone who used to read shit like this back when I was a teenager:
It is not harmless, it can cause disconfort, at BEST, to the (actual real) people involved, also it doesn't need to be published to a high profile twitter for the people involved to know, someone else already mentioned plenty of cases of celebrities bein uncomfortable with this and fans still going.
It's creepy, its awful and being written by teens doesn't change that, it isn't any different to weirdos doing deepfakes of actresses. Real people aren't fictional characters
I would put forth the argument that most fanfics are essentially RPFs anyway. If I write an erotic Hannibal x Will Graham fic for example, the people being visualized fucking in the mind's eye of my readers are the very real human Hugh Dancy and Mads Mikkelsen.
The main audience for fanfics are adults? Is there data about it?
I would think people would prefer real porn lol
Literally a "Celebrities & Real People" section right on the front page of AO3
Eh, that only applies to TV shows, and I do feel like there's ample distinction between the actors and the characters. Like, if a character commits atrocities, that doesn't reflect on the actor.
I feel like VTubers blur that line further to where I'm not sure if it counts as the real person, and I'm not sure where I stand on it.
Never even heard of AO3 before today......and now that I've seen it answers all my questions. I thought this was something happening in a more visible place on the internet. This seems like complaining about the shit you run into on DeviantArt.
Ya tbh the issues one might have with RPF aren't really lessened IMO for pornstars bc they didn't necessarily ask for or control what gets written there either
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AO3 and DeviantArt are both very popular websites idk.
AO3 Statistics 2020: An Update | Archive of Our Own
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
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AO3 gets 40-60m page views per day.
Agreed. I guess to a lesser extent it might apply to really big IPs where the IRL acted adaptation is much more widely known that the 100% fictional original, but it's subjective imo.
Of course, but I think this serves as more of a defense of RPF than a criticism. A character committing atrocities in official fiction don't reflect on the actors because it's not real, so surely a derivative non-canon work of that character wouldn't either. This doesn't excuse people sending these fics to the actors or generally creeping directly at them though, that's just harassment.
At the end of the day, no one has control over what people think about any of us and what they write about us can be viewed as a direct extension of that. Maybe that's a hot take, IDK. I feel like the real issue is people not respecting boundaries and consent with the actual actors*; saying that just the act of writing a fic on a random webpage is bad feels a little bit like "stop being horny" to me. People lusting over any random stranger they see and talking about it has been happening since we developed language and it being on the internet was an inevitability.
Edit: For the record, this isn't me defending RPF cause I like it or anything. Political crack RPFs are hilarious though.
*Talking only about adults of course. I just realized "minor" could be interpreted two ways.
...now this is definitely at least a little bit weird lol
That's why people switched to using the term RACK (Risk Aware Consensual Kink). Technically, no sex is ever safe! Just safer.
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Anyone who has spent even a fraction of time on any online fandom for real life people will have encountered RPF. Most of it is, honestly, pretty harmless "what if these 2 cute boys I like kissed?" type of stuff written by teens. However... there's pretty much always a seedy underbelly with this stuff. Like the OP shows. I remember years and years ago following someone on tumblr who got exposed for writing really hardcore ageplay smut about the fucking Game Grumps. But you have to go out of your way to find that stuff if you're not already into it, really.
Personally I'm not a fan of RPF at all. It can so easily go from the pretty innocent fun stuff (that a lot of creators are okay with) to really weird and kinky shit.
Personally I'm not a fan of RPF at all. It can so easily go from the pretty innocent fun stuff (that a lot of creators are okay with) to really weird and kinky shit.
I think in this case your still writing about the characters they are playing. Not the person themselves. And if you imagine them looking like two actors thats fine. But it's when some one does a Mads x Hugh story explicitly about the actors that issues happen. That's not to mention a lot of these fics have "die for my ship" aspects to them if one or both people have a SO. Or partner or husband or wife. It gets pretty dark.
Even in the "just kissing" case it can be creepy, especially if fans use their fic to promote or prove that the pairing they want is real and causes real life problems for people.
From what I hear SK boy bands have a lot of issues with this because people push the behavior on them. Like asking them to kiss on a talk show and shit like that, when its clear they don't want to.
Can verify that this isn't harmless either. Som girl at my college where I worked, shipped me and my younger sister because were close, and she wanted to write about us as a "couple". Found out through another student who she showed the story to. My sister got very upset when she found out later as I had to tell her why I was yelling at this girl in the commons area.
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I don't think I would be OK with that either, but somehow it feels even worse with people who are known just for playing video games.