People seriously need to wake up and realize that $11.50 an hour is not a livable wage these days.

[Uzumaki Goku]

I am so sick of making this every week.... it's not enough to live off of. My dad who is my boss says "Show me some enthusiasm!" and I'm like "You've got to be kidding." I'm largely left the job because I am so sick of the shitty pay... but I don't know why people still think 20,000 a year is a livable salary for people.

 

[davepoobond]

It's livable if your cost of living is 0

 

[Ralemont]

They don't, they just don't care.

 

[Tsuyu]

It's like $2 per day for banana farmers in Philippines.

 

[Mobius 1]

It's not that they don't know or don't believe it - they simply do not care since they can get away with it.

 

[RailWays]

I am so sick of making this every week.... it's not enough to live off of. My dad who is my boss says "Show me some enthusiasm!" and I'm like "You've got to be kidding." I'm largely left the job because I am so sick of the shitty pay... but I don't know why people still think 20,000 a year is a livable salary for people.

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Honestly anything lower than 40k isn't very feasible for most states. It sucks that our country is too subservient to corporations to force them to actually pay workers a livable wage. Fuck "at-will" employment.

 

[platocplx]

I agree. Wages should be going up without needing laws to allow it to happen.

 

[Shining Star]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

It's certainly not a livable salary.

I'm not sure what your living situation is like or your age/experience.
Find something else. Or speak with your dad/boss and work out a very specific plan for advancement.

 

[Skyebaron]

I make 8 an hour. My retirement will come in shape of a gun and a bullet.

 

[III-V]

America has a really large income distribution issue. The whole system is disgusting and yet it is prized by so many greedy bastards.

 

[Diarrhea Day-Lewis]

Yea I agree. Minimum wage needs to be $15 at the low end. Everyone would benefit because jobs that pay more than minimum wage will go up, even if eventually. I'm a bit above that, my wife and I, and it's still difficult to afford a house, bills, healthcare, etc and we don't even have kids. $15 is just the low end and should be basic living wage and that should go up regularly

 

[Nepenthe]

We know it's not a livable wage.

We don't have the means to increase it. Too many conservative assholes blocking the way because they believe only in the abject suffering of their neighbors.

 

[chezzymann]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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That assumes you have no car payments and you don't need healthcare. In many areas of the US cars are just as necessary as food

 

[Retrocide]

They don't care, how else can you explain saying that $11.50 an hour is a livable wage but making $400,000 year is somehow barely scraping by.

 

[Thrill_house]

Hell 15 is barely enough these days. I don't understand why people aren't outraged over how fucked minimum wage is.

 

[BassForever]

That assumes you have no car payments and you don't need healthcare.

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Nor student loans, or any other long term payments

 

[Mona]

im actually doing decent, i dont have a car, kids, or student loans though

also i get poverty healthcare from state and renters assistance

i also only work part time

 

[Aaron]

Shit man, I make $17.50/hr and I'm still feeling squeezed.

A lot needs to change in this country. $15/hr working 40 hours at McDonald's should be the bottom.

 

[Kill3r7]

It all goes back to jealousy. People should be getting paid a living wage for doing any sort of work.

 

[TheAndyMan]

Literally poverty tier wages.

 

[Lobster Roll]

$11.50 x 40 x 4 = $1,840 before taxes. Let's just call it a flat 15% taken out. Leaves a person with $1,564 per month assuming they have no expenses whatsoever. Rent and utilities alone will destroy that. This also assumes that the worker will be given 40 hours per week guaranteed (lol no). It's an insultingly low wage rate.

 

[N64Controller]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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I don't think anyone disputes that you can TECHNICALLY do it. It's most likely why it's still the minimum wage. It'S because in the reality of life, you won't be able to make it. Mistakes happen, unforeseen things happen, accidents happen, l ife happens. Especially when you live in a country like the US where you can literally go bankrupt if you break your finger.

Not anyone thinks living wage means being able to buy everything you want.

 

[GK86]

$15 an hour isn't enough (for big cities, anyway) neither.

 

[TaySan]

Even 15 isn't enough in most states. At least the cities

 

[Deleted member 15737]

Shoulda spent some of that fortune on bootstraps.
/s

I spent several years in service hell, most were at a level of being trained and doing everything the manager did, so they could take more vacation/do stuff for their family. I never made more than 8 dollars an hour in any of those jobs. One I worked at for 5 years, one I worked at for 3.

If you can't afford to pay your employees a livable wage you don't get employees.

You can work 4 full time jobs and not be able to care for a family of 4. Never progress. The jobs should not exist. Its inhumane and it creates a second class of citizen.

 

[Deleted member 17092]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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Maybe in bumfuck the middle of nowhere but the problem is barely anyone will pay even 11.50 even in the middle of nowhere.

Also most retail/hospitality companies completely fuck people over by giving them just under full time hours so they don't have to provide any benefits.

That's why a lot of people work 3 shitty jobs 60 hours a week to get by.

So nah your post is full of shit.

 

[ClickyCal']

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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What about anything medical?

 

[mikhailguy]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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insurance, phone bill, internet, perhaps some sort of streaming service subscription, student loan payments, car payments, the cost of commuting (if you live in a city with decent infrastructure/public transit)...etc

 

[melikefishnchips]

Hell 15 is barely enough these days. I don't understand why people aren't outraged over how fucked minimum wage is.

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Cuz theres always someone in a worse position who's willing to step in and do it.

If any serious change were to ever come around providing people with livable wages, it would have happened when Covid hit.

Essential workers that weren't in the medical field getting paid chump change and not even able to get hazard pay is the straw that should've broke the camels back but didn't

 

[Failburger]

$11.50 is something that a teenager working a summer job should make. Not an adult trying to survive.

 

[Tatsu91]

I am so sick of making this every week.... it's not enough to live off of. My dad who is my boss says "Show me some enthusiasm!" and I'm like "You've got to be kidding." I'm largely left the job because I am so sick of the shitty pay... but I don't know why people still think 20,000 a year is a livable salary for people.

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i make 17 an hour and i barely scrape by with the bare minimum usually.

 

[N64Controller]

insurance, phone bill, internet, perhaps some sort of streaming service subscription, car payments, the cost of commuting (if you live in a city with decent infrastructure)...etc

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No you see, when you're on the minimum wage the only thing you should do is work and walk back home, eat rice or cheap pasta and go to bed.

 

[samoscratch]

I make like 45k/year and even that doesn't feel like enough.

 

[nightstalker962]

Come January 1, that will be below minimum wage in my state.

 

[Zom]

I make 3 bucks an hour lmao, but not in the US.

 

[Richietto]

Yeah it's insane. It seems like no one fucking questioned raising minimum wages because it was expected and then boom, we have gone over 10 years without a raise in the minimum. People are out there getting payed 7.25 an hour and I'm not far from the amount myself and now people have the audacity to say they should just find a better job or get a degree. It's horrible.

 

[ClickyCal']

No you see, when you're on the minimum wage the only thing you should do is work and walk back home, eat rice or cheap pasta and go to bed.

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Yep. Republicans consider anything outside of getting 8 hours off work and dry rice or pasta or ramen and water, a luxury.

 

[TrueSloth]

It's like $2 per day for banana farmers in Philippines.

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Yeah, that's shitty, but we're not talking about them. Jesus christ.

 

[YuriLowell]

11.50 an hour is better than the 7.50 an hour that VA currently has.

 

[Dice]

The fact Covid handouts were often larger than most folks in the most vulnerable jobs were making especially highlights we don't make enough lol

The government thinks we need more than we earn! Whaaaaaaaaagh

 

[Hasseigaku]

We know. Most of us here are not the ones blocking the way for a higher minimum wage.

Capital is always going to oppose it and capital has managed to convince a wide swath of Americans that they and their neighbors shouldn't get paid more.

 

[Mr Jones]

You have to remember that there are folks who will say that not all jobs are going to provide you a "living wage." If you're a doing a repetitive tasked or labor based job like a cashier, or newspaper delivery, or farm hand, they are considered "entry level" jobs, which pays you for your work, but not enough for you to be self-sustaining. These are jobs that are supposed to be for extra money, or young folks who still live with their guardian.

 

[Zombegoast]

$15 isn't livable either.

 

[OrangeNova]

14.25 in Ontario, and that's not a livable wage.


Minimum wage should be 2% a Cities average rent for a 1 bedroom apartment.

 

[exodus]

From what I understand $400K/year is barely enough to scrape by.

 

[pillowtalk]

My retirement will come in shape of a gun and a bullet.

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With the way things are going, it feels like it'll be legal for corporations to open suicide booths in 20 years.

 

[ClickyCal']

You have to remember that there are folks who will say that not all jobs are going to provide you a "living wage." If you're a doing a repetitive tasked or labor based job like a cashier, or newspaper delivery, or farm hand, they are considered "entry level" jobs, which pays you for your work, but not enough for you to be self-sustaining. These are jobs that are supposed to be for extra money, or young folks who still live with their guardian.

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Yea....republicans say that.

 

[fontguy]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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Well it's a good thing no one has to worry about things like surprise medical expenses, savings, or the laughable thought of maybe retiring one day.

 

[iWannaHat]

I dunno, isn't it? I mean a lot of people think that living wage means "able to buy everything I want" but if we're talking just like rent and food yeah I think you could.

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I made 11.50 at an old job. i worked between 34 and 38 hours a week. In order to pay rent I used to have days where i wouldn't eat or would only eat 1 meal to make my food money last for two weeks until my next paycheck. I lived paycheck to paycheck. It fucking sucked.