I think there might be some sense to that argument because China is just so goddamn big. A democratically elected leader might not be able to please everyone, the place is its own mini continent.
Though they havent even tried so who can say.
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People around the globe are divided in their opinions of China
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Though they havent even tried so who can say.
I don't think anybody here blames the Chinese people for their government's actions
The insinuation is neither about Asian women chasing after visas, nor is it about characterizing your relationship as some sort of fetish thing.
To clarify, the joke is that a lot of white husbands on Era like to trot their Asian wives out as stepstools for their personal opinions about Asian affairs. It's our version of "I have a black friend."
The lack of accessibility to Education doesn't help either
Oh, I see.
That wasn't my goal, sorry if it looked like this.
Don't like China as a country one bit. Don't like their authoritarian government and also how they give the finger to international copyright laws, they don't think twice about stealing everything they see. I'm sure there's plenty of wonderful people in China though.
By the way, holy shit Japanese people really hate China don't they.
By the way, holy shit Japanese people really hate China don't they.
Japan hates China and vice-versa. They have a long history of wrongdoing towards one another and I doubt that animosity goes away anytime soon.
Yep. The West mistakenly thought that the liberalization of their economy would lead to the liberalization of society and an increased demand for democracy.
Instead we just helped build up and enrich the most powerful and largest authoritarian regime in modern history. Oops!
there are plenty in the West who still believe that capitalism inherently creates liberal democracy, and if it failed to do so it must be because the government was involved and corrupted it
Being critical of the CCP isn't Sinophobia just like being critical of the Israeli government isn't anti-semitism.
As for Sweden: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gui_Minhai
Jesus, some of the responses on this thread are going places. Like to an Intro to Asian-American studies class as an example of societal bias and rationalization of said bias when confronted by the targets of the bias.
Sinophobia and hating on the CCP are two different things. I love Taiwan, Hong Kong, I love Chinese food, and Chinese individuals. What I don't like is anyone supporting the CCP regime, mainland Chinese or not.
My wife is Chinese and I have spent considerable time in China (going again next week). I have met some amazing people there, experienced some amazing things, and overall love it when I visit. I don't agree with the decisions of their government, nor does my wife who is still a Chinese citizen but I still have a favorable opinion of the country as a whole. For those who have spent no time there or have no ties to the country, I can see the Chinese government being the only thing that shapes their opinion.
Sweden, along with the other Scandinavian nations, is one of the most progressive nations in the world. Is it really that strange that they'd have a negative view of a country that imprisons and murders its own civilians over nothing and tries to bully the rest of the world with its economic strength?
But no, it must be Sinophobia, even though nobody here or in the poll are implied to hate Chinese people as a whole.
There are plenty of great things and great people in, e.g., Saudi Arabia and Israel as well.
When we look at polling or discussions like these, the core issue is always going to be how the nation(s) as entities treat their own people and those of other nations, not about how nice they are for tourists or those with privilege.
Except we don't, but you Brits and Yanks continue do whatever the fuck you like, insist everyone subscribe to your world view and declare them racist when they don't.
You include me in the colonial past and you can go fuck yourself.
Yeah, my point that clearly went over your head is are going to have different opinions based on your own experiences in a country. I'm sorry that you aren't "privileged" enough to experience the world and your only opinions of it are based on news articles and era threads but there are good people out there living the best lives they can just like me and you and if you live with them for a couple of months or so you will have a different appreciation for their way of life and their culture. You remind me of my aunt who told me that having a bible in China would get me arrested. Turns out some hotels there have bibles in the drawer just like in the US. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Just to be clear: Are you seriously using your personal enjoyment of your visit to China to excuse concentration camps and genocide?
Some don't know, some don't care because that minority group is Muslim.
Looks at the polls: why do you think most developed, rich countries don't like China? If you make a poll of the US is "favorable" in i.e. Africa, Middle-East I'm sure you can guess the answer.
China is being seen as a treat to the west because they are not our ally and they will become more powerful than the US.
There's so much negative news about China. To give you some examples: the new silk road and the 5G network. They would "spy on us", I don't think there's proof on that. I would also like to remind you the NSA does exactly the same, but I guess we forgot that already. And yes, all purposefully "creating" bad news is a form of propaganda. And yes, I despise that they exploit people, don't respect human right and have prisoner camps. I hope that will change. That's just wrong.
My point is, If you consider China "purely evil" (fair enough), then also look at a good look at Western politics (mostly US), because some of them are pretty similar "evil". I can recommend Understaind Power by Noam Choamsky and The Shockdoctrine by Naomi Klein). And stop using all the items from China, including your phone because they support exploiting those people.
I'm not going into discussion after this post. It's a waste of time. You can have your opinion, I can have mine (and I don't think they are that far off...)
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Nah, but you might get disappeared for trying to teach the Quran online.
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Democracy, Freedom, Progressiveness of Speech, Equality are things China doesn't have
I never brought up Western countries you did that yourself. If your only contribution to threads like this is stanning for China in the most transparent way possible please don't come back.
Asking people if a country with the size and population of China is "good" or "bad" just seems absurd to me. Like there's things the Chinese government does that are bad, horrible even, but theres a fucking billion Chinese people. Smart. Dumb. Poor. Rich. Was the survey really "what do you think of China?"
They could start by letting Tibet and the Uighur region go first. Those places weren't even part of China for the most part of its history.
Maybe even divide the North and South of China. But it'll be hard considering what China is now. Before the large swathes of internal migration in the 80s and 90s, Northern and South China were very different. In the past, they were even separate political entities at times. But for the past 20-30 years, people have moved and intermingle everywhere which has made the national language Mandarin the main language for everywhere. For a long time Cantonese Chinese was the lingua franca of Southern China. You can still hear it a lot in Guangdong, but you definitely won't hear it in Shenzhen which was a newly developed and planned city.
Listen, if we're gonna have another cold war, we're gonna need a new Evil Empire.
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Yeah I don't think modern societies are well equipped to deal with populations that large when you take into account social media and stuff. It's not always sensible to conflate a population with its government but when you combine 1 billion people and extremely vocal minorities then it becomes much easier. If you can reliably expect some amount of "angry Weibo users" to defend the most absurd shit imaginable then it's easy to see how it affects perceptions.
Too bad they don't know about it or actively participate in that cultural points system.
Well, can you really separate the government from the population? Populace might not have a hand in a decision making and be perfectly fine, good people in a vacuum, but being from the quite similar country, from the political system perspective at least, I can assure you, that state level propaganda, however bad it might be from the outside perspective, does have an impact on a simple folk, the vast majority of people either don't care for the bad things their country does, or support it because of their ultra-patriotic zeal.
Chinese people know about their government more than you.
Come on now.
If you're gonna talk about Chinese people like this, you probably shouldn't pretend that your aggressive stance against china is because you want to help them.
Can't help people who are so apathetic towards human cruelty 🤷♀️ I'm not their savior after all
I'm not a geopolitics expert, but the correlation on the map seems to be that the more a country has to actually deal with China, the less they like China.
Doesn't explain the African countries which China is exploiting just as bad as the West used to.
China has been bullying the Philippines.
Taking islands and influx of Chinese people in the country is not a good look.
The worse thing is that Duterte is a puppet of Xi.
Do you actually believe this? Because I have some troubling news about you if you do
is there a similar poll about global opinions about the US?
malaysia is basically very negative about everyone...google their PM's opinion on the US in comparison to China....LOL
malaysia is basically very negative about everyone...google their PM's opinion on the US in comparison to China....LOL
idk the usual defense around here is "well they do bad but also do good so it evens out" or straight up whataboutism, seems pretty complacent and apathetic to me
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Pew has a topic for this
call me crazy but the world being caught in the middle between 2 superpower bickering is a recipe for disaster. We need a 'third superpower' to balance it out...
it's clear that china will never the the global leader role it seeks to crave while the US's role (& image) as global arbiter is slipping through its finger faster than a Lockheed Martin SR-72 and doesn't seems recoverable anytime soon (no, a change of president will not do that).
i don't know which country can rise up enough to break the current dichotomy (Russia and EU are lost forever IMO, India still got a long way to go).
Your aunt's sentiment is hyperbolic, but you're also ignorant as well. China has a history of trying to control religious organizations and supressing Christians who they deemed 'unpatriotic'.