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Pelosi Coronavirus Plan unveiled: $1500 universal for every American w/ tax ID (up to $7500 for family of 5), 100% UI (includes gig & self-employed)
- Thread starter RastaMentality
- Start date
- COVID
I can walk and talk. It's simply absurd to me that people that haven't lost jobs, will not lose their jobs are angry at this bill because they might not get a check. It's a level of selfishness I can't comprehend. This bill provides cash relief and unemployment expansion to those that need it and an interest free loan to everyone else, hard to complain about that imo.
Right? Who the hell do these people think they are? Jeff Bezos?
the gop will want to attach some stuff probably, but it might have a chance
Exactly, the first 50 posts of this thread feel like either it wasnt read, or its from bizarro land.
In what way in the world is raising UI to $2400 cutting a check, student AND private loan assistance and family sized scaling "Just a bit better than the republican one"? What?
Slow down and read this stuff, because this is light years better.
Well yeah... This is their job? I don't understand the criticism here. We don't know how long this will last. Getting something like this out the door makes sense. Especially the UI part. Theres never any rule that prevents you from continuing after this. And yes, its big. I suppose they were working on it. A few days ago they were getting the business for not reacting fast enough. Now it turns out they were working. Wheres the problem?
The initial money part might pass, but the GoP will try to gut the rest (especially the student loan part, because Bootstraps) and also put in some bailouts and other bullshit.
A family member of mine just informed me that the republicans are trying to get us relief but the democrats are voting against it. Meanwhile the dems and Pelosi are trying to sneak things into the bill, specifically trying to "pass abortion".
I said, "okay."
I mean what do you even say.
I said, "okay."
I mean what do you even say.
You can't personally speak to the situation of every poster advocating for a UBI so I wouldn't make the attempt
But if you still make that much this coming year, you probably weren't affected as much. And if you were, the UI portion takes care of you.
trying to tell them that the gop tying an anti-abortion anvil to the legs of the last bill is what killed it would've been an exercise in frustration, because they wouldn't believe it anyways
I'm expecting their usual stunt of "let's put some anti abortion shit in there for shits and giggles".
So by gig work, do they mean things like Uber and Postmates?
This helps a lot more people then, I think.
It's still one check, but if they can get this to pass, at least a lot of things, like unemployment, are covered, so next if this goes on longer, then all they have to pass through is checks, no?
This helps a lot more people then, I think.
It's still one check, but if they can get this to pass, at least a lot of things, like unemployment, are covered, so next if this goes on longer, then all they have to pass through is checks, no?
This bill isn't about a UBI though, it's intended to provide relief to those affected by what the coronavirus has done to the economy.
I make slightly under 75k and also don't need this stimulus ... but would still like to have the stimulus. I would gladly pour that money back into my local economy to give even more money to people who need it.
Hopefully some of this gets through. McConnell would have no problem letting the economy crater and people die just to own some libs.
You could link them the government website. Stuff like https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3548 is available now and I'm assuming the House bill will be there in some form soon. But I highly doubt that people like that are interested in the intricacies of this situation.
Maybe, I don't know, probably. But this bill will not be a UBI in any shape or form, so why even pretend that it's a possibility. It's completely outside the scope of what Congress (Democratice and GOP leadership) are trying to achieve.
People probably don't disagree. But that's just going to pass.
im looking at the bill but i cant find the specifics
i found the section with the money values and amounts and whatnot, but cant see how it's distributed
id imagine it would be checks sent out to everyone with a SSN or sommit
It's based on 2020 returns. Not to mention if you lose your income the expanded UI is better than the UBI by miles.
I will say there seems to be a ton of unrelated shit in there. The usual pork projects. Don't have time for that even though it's the usual to try to get extra negotiating chips.
We spend fuckin trillions on military but cant pass this shit? Hope GOP gets wrecked come election day.
We just need Mitch to allow a vote and a handful
Of republicans to flip. Should I be optimistic?
Of republicans to flip. Should I be optimistic?
I could be wrong, but it looks to me like you'll be able to qualify for the expanded unemployment insurance if you don't currently qualify for it as a freelance contractor. The weekly payout for you will be $600+ 25% of whatever your state normally pays out for UI capped at 26 weeks, you'll need to provide proof that your income in the last 6 months is more than $2500 or that you lost work cause of COVID though. If you're unable to provide proof UI will payout $300 a week if you contract covid, take care of a family member that gets it, or attest that you're unable to find work due to restrictions caused by the pandemic.
How does this cancellation of student loan monthly payments affect the PSLF program? Is this cancellation something you can opt in, or will everyone's loans just be suspended instantly? Because I'd rather just keep working toward my 120 payments and not have it extended indefinitely.
But I can't balk at $10K worth of payments; that's approximately 33 (almost 3 years worth) of my payments right there. But that just invites another question: can this $10K be distributed over time, or is this just a one-time $10K payment? Because if it's the latter, then it doesn't help me at all.
But I can't balk at $10K worth of payments; that's approximately 33 (almost 3 years worth) of my payments right there. But that just invites another question: can this $10K be distributed over time, or is this just a one-time $10K payment? Because if it's the latter, then it doesn't help me at all.
And yet it is not even remotely comparable to essential necessities....like food, clothes, transportation, etc.
If someone is spending their UBI check on a $500 console...they didn't need the UBI check to begin with. Owning a new console at launch price is not a necessity, nor is it required to boost our economy.
Unemployment insurance and student loan forgiveness is huge. Name the bill and tell me who to call.
Sorry for all the questions:
If you work for Postmates/Uber and making significantly less, can you file for unemployment?
If you work for Postmates/Uber and making significantly less, can you file for unemployment?
Right now you have to opt in to the forbearance. This one doesn't specify, but it's hard to imagine the government would refuse payments.
It's complemented by the enhanced UI. UI = up to $600 per week and everyone gets a $1500 one time check.
TeddieBear
yes gig economy in this bill refers to freelance delivery jobs as well.