Unfortunately, we also found out the answer to his classic question from 2014...
The answer is no.
You wait for the multiple instances of treason.
Sorry you don't understand. I can try to use smaller words next time?
It clearly is flawed since it generated the wrong result. (Or fine, it generated the right result since it generated all possible reults, but the probability for it was far too low)The question is how could it be improved to be more accurate?
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Sorry you don't understand. I can try to use smaller words next time?
These are the people who complain about Xcom's statistics.If I tell you that the next roll of a dice has a 16.6% chance of coming up "6" and the roll comes up "6", would you say that my prediction was far too low?
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Obviously you had a 100% chance of landing on a 6 because that is what happened.If I tell you that the next roll of a dice has a 16.6% chance of coming up "6" and the roll comes up "6", would you say that my prediction was far too low?
If I tell you that the next roll of a dice has a 16.6% chance of coming up "6" and the roll comes up "6", would you say that my prediction was far too low?
Yeah, your prediction was too low. You would be either correct (it's a "6") or incorrect (it's not a "6") and therefore you had a 50% chance, not a 16.6% chance.
50-50 chance I'm either trolling or not trolling.
EDIT: to be clear, there was a strong /s implied in the previous comment.
Okay I see, let's roll the dice and decide.
*rolls*
It landed on a picture of a fish, I think that means I win?
Yeah, your prediction was too low. You would be either correct (it's a "6") or incorrect (it's not a "6") and therefore you had a 50% chance, not a 16.6% chance.
There is a 100% chance of rolling a 6 on a six sided die where every side is a 6.
There is a 100% chance of rolling a 6 on a six sided die where every side is a 6.
Then it ceases existence and you have to buy a new die.
Yeah, your prediction was too low. You would be either correct (it's a "6") or incorrect (it's not a "6") and therefore you had a 50% chance, not a 16.6% chance.
Is it too late to join the circle jerk about that guy not understanding stats
If Biden wins the Primary, this is going to be at the center of their race and the question will become: can people actually read.
I'm not convinced they can.
Lol. No he didn't. He had a 100% chance of winning because he did in fact win. The fact that your data told you he only had a 25% chance to win means your data was wildly innacurate.
If I gave you the full list of everyone who voted and who they voted for, you would be able to tell me who won with 100% accuracy.
That's what these methods are trying to predict. The fact that they got it so wrong means their methods were flawed. There is no significant random chance involved here like there is in a sporting event. I intended to vote for Hilary and I did in fact, vote for Hilary.
I think this is too subtle for the guy.
There is a 100% chance of rolling a 6 on a six sided die where every side is a 6.
That's not how any of this works and people damn well know what megatron is saying. The 25% chance was building in Margin of Error. And guess what? The results were within THE MARGIN OF ERROR. More accurate to say as an example, you had 10 people 3-4 for Trump 6-8 for Clinton, for Trump to win, he'd need 4 and Clinton would need 6, and Trump's four have to be the exact right 4 people, and Clinton's 6 would need to be the exact wrong 6. but it wasn't certain that Trump would hit his high end and Clinton her low, in fact it was unlikely. Thus, the unlikely result we got was Trump losing the popular vote and winning the electoral college by a minuscule amount of votes.I think I understand what he is trying to say. Don't really agree, but here it goes.
He is saying that an election is not random, aka the results are complete before we go to the polls. This is of course not really accurate, because people can change their minds over time, but whatever.
So, given that information if we have 10 people, 6 for Trump and 4 for Clinton, then there is a 100% chance Trump wins. Now if we ask 4 of them months before and happen to ask 3 Clinton and 1 Trump, we would say it is 25% chance. But since the results were already determined, that is incorrect.
Ok, now I might be crazy.
The chance of being correct or incorrect are not the same because there are 5 incorrect results and 1 correct
How about saying that the statistics says Hillary will win and there's a 25% chance of these statistics being wrong?I think I understand what he is trying to say. Don't really agree, but here it goes.
He is saying that an election is not random, aka the results are complete before we go to the polls. This is of course not really accurate, because people can change their minds over time, but whatever.
So, given that information if we have 10 people, 6 for Trump and 4 for Clinton, then there is a 100% chance Trump wins. Now if we ask 4 of them months before and happen to ask 3 Clinton and 1 Trump, we would say it is 25% chance. But since the results were already determined, that is incorrect.
Ok, now I might be crazy.
fair enough, you got meI legitimately feel bad for further derailing the thread, but come on folks, did that really need a /s thrown on there? I'll leave it be at this point, but just wanted you to walk away not actually thinking I was being literal or sincere.
That's not how any of this works and people damn well know what megatron is saying. The 25% chance was building in Margin of Error. And guess what? The results were within THE MARGIN OF ERROR. More accurate to say as an example, you had 10 people 3-4 for Trump 6-8 for Clinton, for Trump to win, he'd need 4 and Clinton would need 6, and Trump's four have to be the exact right 4 people, and Clinton's 6 would need to be the exact wrong 6. but it wasn't certain that Trump would hit his high end and Clinton her low, in fact it was unlikely. Thus, the unlikely result we got was Trump losing the popular vote and winning the electoral college by a minuscule amount of votes.
Confidence intervals not even once.I think I understand what he is trying to say. Don't really agree, but here it goes.
He is saying that an election is not random, aka the results are complete before we go to the polls. This is of course not really accurate, because people can change their minds over time, but whatever.
So, given that information if we have 10 people, 6 for Trump and 4 for Clinton, then there is a 100% chance Trump wins. Now if we ask 4 of them months before and happen to ask 3 Clinton and 1 Trump, we would say it is 25% chance. But since the results were already determined, that is incorrect.
Ok, now I might be crazy.
Yeah, your prediction was too low. You would be either correct (it's a "6") or incorrect (it's not a "6") and therefore you had a 50% chance, not a 16.6% chance.
How about saying that the statistics says Hillary will win and there's a 25% chance of these statistics being wrong?
I'm so dumb when it comes to this stuff and I feel like - especially today - the news is moving incredibly fast...but...do we have any details of what is actually in the whistleblower report or is that what we're waiting on? How many people (in positions of importance) have now read it and when can we expect anything to come of it?
Thanks!
I know people with doctorates who got them in fields where they never even took a single college course on statistics who get the absolute basics wrong. It's incredible. It almost needs to be a high school course or something.Confidence intervals not even once.
Guess what? When somebody has a 33 percent chance of winning, they will win 1/3 times. People need to deal with statistics. Blows my mind nobody can grasp it.
We know the call was a trigger, and we have a massive amount of public information on this situation- https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/24/full-trump-ukraine-timeline-now/I'm so dumb when it comes to this stuff and I feel like - especially today - the news is moving incredibly fast...but...do we have any details of what is actually in the whistleblower report or is that what we're waiting on? How many people (in positions of importance) have now read it and when can we expect anything to come of it?
Thanks!