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Pelosi announces formal Impeachment Inquiry into President Trump
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Exactly. Saying this will rile up R's for 2020 means jack shit. They were very riled-up in 2018 and still lost the House, because Dems and Moderates were more riled up. 2020 will likely see record voter turnout for Dems.
It's probably that they knew it was inevitable that it would get out, and if it's not explosive, it's better to look like they were doing something so they can say they're fair, if it is explosive, they can use this nonbinding vote for cover.
I'd say, for the moment, it galvanizes both more than anything. But considering that all of the senate agreed to get the Ukraine transcripts from Trump, it might be in the Dems favor in the long run. Though, I'm just pundit armcharing here.
This is what I saw posted on the old forum:
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Russia didn't work.
Comey didn't work.
Trump Jr. Didn't work.
Women sex accusation didn't work
Mueller didn't wotk
Racism didn't work
Mexican cages didn't work
Lying about the economy being bad didn't work.
Russia part 2 didn't work
Racism part 2 didn't work
Trans ban didn't work
Mueller part 2 didn't work
International scandal didn't work.
Trans ban part 2 didn't work
Roger stone didn't work
Women sex accusation part 2 didn't work
Mexican cages part 2
300000000 hour constant 24.7 news coverage didn't work.
Mueller part 3 final didn't work,
tons of hearings didn't work.
AOC/Omar didn't work
Trans ban part 3 didn't work
Racism part 3 didn't work
Lewandowski didn't work.
Now we are at the possible preparation on a potential impeachment based on probable evidence that doesn't actual exist in theory.
Ok. Please actual do the impeachment full sails ahead to fail and bump up the President in all those areas you call fly over including democrat regions you don't visit so he can get all those too. Also the Tulsi voters will mostly go right to him based on how you treat her and how center she is. Biden will fall because this is a distraction from his garbage, and thus Warren will be your only hope, but see, the Indians always get revenge so that's a loss.
Also yeah, there's more, but i covered the more popular attempts to "get trump" here.
_________________________
Russia didn't work.
Comey didn't work.
Trump Jr. Didn't work.
Women sex accusation didn't work
Mueller didn't wotk
Racism didn't work
Mexican cages didn't work
Lying about the economy being bad didn't work.
Russia part 2 didn't work
Racism part 2 didn't work
Trans ban didn't work
Mueller part 2 didn't work
International scandal didn't work.
Trans ban part 2 didn't work
Roger stone didn't work
Women sex accusation part 2 didn't work
Mexican cages part 2
300000000 hour constant 24.7 news coverage didn't work.
Mueller part 3 final didn't work,
tons of hearings didn't work.
AOC/Omar didn't work
Trans ban part 3 didn't work
Racism part 3 didn't work
Lewandowski didn't work.
Now we are at the possible preparation on a potential impeachment based on probable evidence that doesn't actual exist in theory.
Ok. Please actual do the impeachment full sails ahead to fail and bump up the President in all those areas you call fly over including democrat regions you don't visit so he can get all those too. Also the Tulsi voters will mostly go right to him based on how you treat her and how center she is. Biden will fall because this is a distraction from his garbage, and thus Warren will be your only hope, but see, the Indians always get revenge so that's a loss.
Also yeah, there's more, but i covered the more popular attempts to "get trump" here.
I hope this leads to removal. I believe Congress setting the boundary for impeachment at such egregious behavior, in light of everything else he has done, is a long-term harm that may come back to further push the nation toward dictatorship.
Impeachment is either far too unwieldy to hold the a President in check or it is simply being neglected by an irresponsible Congress. Regardless, all of the restraints against executive overreach have already been weakened.
Impeachment is either far too unwieldy to hold the a President in check or it is simply being neglected by an irresponsible Congress. Regardless, all of the restraints against executive overreach have already been weakened.
If it helps push his elections polls and approval rating lower, it all worked.
They've likely pushed the story that Biden did the things the conspiracy is related to, and even insinuated Biden has admitted to this already.
This is what I got from my Fox News dad. He's furious this is happening, thinking this is gonna backfire and they're going after the wrong guy. We spoke for less than 40 seconds, today, cuz I can't handle it.
"x didn't work"
didn't work...in what sense? is your threshold for "something working" whether it results in Trump's removal from office? lol
You mean Tulsi Gabbard of the Homophobic cult?
Man you wear your bullshit on your sleeve eh?
Obama is far too classy to do it but a sarcastic reply to that Tweet from him like "I know, right?" would give me life.
Yep, Trump's base is and has been at fever pitch. An impeachment wont boost his base.
It will boost Dems base
Well I guess President Pence would be a slight improvement. Good thing is Pence has no shot to win in 2020
Honestly I think so too. Plenty of meat on the bone. Now make some stew.
I hope they are all willing to flip and bury him, but most likely that is me dreaming.
That's unknowable. A single tweet at the 11th hour could energize Republicans and House Dems doing their fucking jobs could energize Democrats. I'm of the opinion that Democrats having a spine will be beneficial, even when Trump is inevitably not removed from office and Republicans spin it as an embarrassing loss for Dems.
Because this has the GOP in the Senate worried. It checks off virtually ever box you'd want in a scandal that would move public opinion.
If it swings hard against Trump they get caught in a catch-22 where it's piss off the base or piss off the majority of the electorate. Both are devastating for them.
Pro-tip: Stop saying "Senate won't convict." It lays the narrative groundwork to let the Senate off the hook. "Everyone said we wouldn't convict, no one's going to be too surprised or angry if we don't."
If the Senate is going to acquit, make it sell that to the public, don't do it months in advance for it.
If the Senate is going to acquit, make it sell that to the public, don't do it months in advance for it.
Because the vote is toothless. It calls for the report to go to the intelligence committee, and is non-binding. Voting against it would look like a coverup, voting for it looks like they are being open.
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I mean, stating the obvious is just stating the obvious. We're not exactly elected politicians here, just people commenting on it and it's dishonest to believe that the Senate will convict. Well, short of some pretty obvious criminal audio-tapes.
Any talk about the Senate actually voting for removal is way, way, WAY premature. There were nine months of investigations in the House before Nixon's impeachment Resolution was voted on, and that was with just one committee (Judiciary) working. We've got six separate committees now starting investigations, I'm not sure this will even move to the Senate before the 2020 General Election.
What does impeachment INQUIRY mean, actually? That they're just doing an investigation to determine if they go down the path of (attempted) impeachment, or is this the actual path to impeachment?
Every presidential impeachment has been preceded by an inquiry. It's the House's side of the investigation. The alternative would be to vote on it before fact finding and letting the Senate look into it. The Senate is Republican.
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I see, so this is all a stunt by the Democratic party to gain power. Didn't Pelosi out kavanaugh's accuser and sell her out to the media? How are these politicians still in office? All they care about is power! Does it really matter if your policy doesn't get pushed for another 4 years? Who cares? We still gotta pay taxes no matter who's in office.
Can't wait for 10 years of President Pence
It is nuts to me that the thing that drove Democrats over the edge impeachment was that Trump was going after Biden. Apparently you can do anything but that.
When Comey got fired, we were told nothing would happen.
Something did. The Mueller investigation.
When the Mueller investigation concluded and presented evidence of criminal wrong doing by the President, we were told nothing would happen.
Something did. This.
See how this works? I've been told over and over again that 'nothing will happen' yet the process keeps on keeping on. If you mean 'Trump won't be forcibly removed from office' then at least say that.
And yeah. We know. The GOP are complete patsies and *if we can demonstrate that* to anyone who isn't drunk on the Kool Aid...
then that'd sure be something.
Something did. The Mueller investigation.
When the Mueller investigation concluded and presented evidence of criminal wrong doing by the President, we were told nothing would happen.
Something did. This.
See how this works? I've been told over and over again that 'nothing will happen' yet the process keeps on keeping on. If you mean 'Trump won't be forcibly removed from office' then at least say that.
And yeah. We know. The GOP are complete patsies and *if we can demonstrate that* to anyone who isn't drunk on the Kool Aid...
then that'd sure be something.
