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Have you actually read what's in the bill or are you just going off of OP's feelings?
I could you link you to a hot four pages of people proving on a forum, over and over, that, no, they have no idea how Republicans operate.
I agree with that but a lot of people in this thread would rather pass nothing than this bill because they believe that Republicans can be bullied into a better solution RIGHT NOW. That's just not realistic. But yes, I think the messaging around this is weak and a valid point to criticize Dems on.
Pretty much this. People will take any opportunity to shit on Pelosi, as if she has some sort of supreme authority instead of controlling only one part of the government.
That's unfortunately, the exact same train of thought these politicians do.
Republicans actually dont give a fuck about anything going on right now as they think it's a hoax. So yea they wouldn't even pass the bare minimum without the Dems insisting these things.
Yes, grow a fucking spine. Call their bluff. This shit affects literally everyone and only 20 percent are covered for paid sick leave?
We dont have enough tests. Money and bills alone wont stop the spread. Testing and quarantines and taking preventitive measures will. The bills are supposed to help the people dealing with the virus and a lack of work.
The administration bungled the response. They had WHO tests 3 months ago and ignored them. Trump fired the NSC pandemic response team. South Korea has handled the response better than out government. More people will get sick and die. That includes the Republican base. Democrats have a lot of leverage here if they are willing to exploit it. They aren't though.
we please stop with these nonsensical posts. The house could pass whatever they have the votes to pass. You can agree or disagree on whether the tactic of only passing something the senate will agree on or passing something you want is the right move.
What gives you the impression republicans are bluffing? They don't want to do these things.
i think that the failure of messaging and the people who are coming in with hot takes are more then a little bit related
Yes, which is why 20% are better for slowing the spread than 0.
Ah my bad. Still a good post for those actually blaming Pelosi.
That is fair and yet I do think it is important to channel criticism in a way that's more difficult to shoot down i.e. direct it at the actual issue. I won't disagree that poor messaging makes it more difficult to do that though.
So you just get nothing done instead?
Yes, it still is.
Yeah it's wild that republicans are that fucking bad but here we are.
Is it really though when a single person could infect 50? It will only be effective if they provide a test for every single person in the nation. We don't have enough tests yet. It's a major failing.
Walk away? No need. Pass a bill giving the people what they need and dump it in Mitch's lap. Let him explain why the people can't have that.
Yeah but when something goes wrong and people are dying the GOP doesn't care. They'd have preferred no bill get passed, and they'd just blame the dems. I'm not in favor of helping no one for the sake of scoring political points that likely wont be scored anyway.
One of the dumbest things you could type out, honestly. She's one of the most effective legislators the democrats and liberals in general have. She's great at her job, which isn't to be an ideologue, it's to represent and lead the democrats in the house. All of them.
Lmao, because the parties are treated even remotely the same as evidenced by this thread. The bill would join the others sitting on the pile of House passed bills that won't even be brought to the floor as the media says jackshit about it. Meanwhile people still would be dropping hot takes on Pelosi on social media blaming her.
