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[PCWorld] A year in, the Epic Games Store's fight against Steam has made PC gaming better for everyone.
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The only thing the Epic store did was make me appreciate everything Steam offers that much more.
The author doesn't even claim that most of this stuff wasn't in dev prior, they just have this notion about how they believe it caused them to hurry the timelines along. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, but it's very much a "here's what I reckon" type thing, and the author doesn't claim it's anything more than that, so it's not like the'yre lying or anything. Kind of wierd to have that as a big tentpole part of your argument though.
I just wish Epic had at least made their storefront more feature complete if they were gonna compete with Steam. Steam have had serious issues in the past and still have, let's not get around that, but EGS just feels hollow.
Yeah, I go with this. As much as I dislike Epic's business approach, I mostly annoyed how the press handled this whole "situation". Just loads of fanboish, "pick a side", trash.
This is a topic that escaleted horrible, including harassment of developers and I put this on writers and articles like this one.
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Careful friend. Steam fanboys will get angry.
This is basically my response to reading this, such a misleading BS article.
is pc gaming finally resurrected from it's multiple decade long death?
This PC World article sounds like an article Sweeney sponsored under the table.
I'm all for multiple front stores as long as they don't lock games to their stores. We all should have the choice to select our preferred launchers. Why do we need to accept a company paying exclusivity for 50+ games to push gamers to use their launcher? Create a great launcher and people will flock there. That's how you compete with Steam. One year later, EGS is still as bare bones as a launcher can be.
I'm all for multiple front stores as long as they don't lock games to their stores. We all should have the choice to select our preferred launchers. Why do we need to accept a company paying exclusivity for 50+ games to push gamers to use their launcher? Create a great launcher and people will flock there. That's how you compete with Steam. One year later, EGS is still as bare bones as a launcher can be.
Oh, cool. An article claiming Epic paying publishers for timed exclusives is what caused Halo to release on Steam.
Thanks Tim Sweeney
Thanks Tim Sweeney
I am glad the Epic game store exists. It has its faults but I've been enjoying the free games.
I will never understand the blind loyalty people have to Valve.
I will never understand the blind loyalty people have to Valve.
What an embarrassing article. Just look at this:
"Did it work? We don't actually have the facts but YAY EPIC" 🤦♀️
lmao
"Did it work? We don't actually have the facts but YAY EPIC" 🤦♀️
These drive bys:
Can only have the same response
As usual, fun to see the folks that jump into the "this is why I hate PC gaming" / Valve bashing threads / Pro-EGS threads, happily painting all PC gamers with the broad brush of "loyalty" to Valve - when most have no such tendency in support of the open ecosystem
Can only have the same response
As usual, fun to see the folks that jump into the "this is why I hate PC gaming" / Valve bashing threads / Pro-EGS threads, happily painting all PC gamers with the broad brush of "loyalty" to Valve - when most have no such tendency in support of the open ecosystem
Im confused here people haven't brought any good reasons why Epic has *improved* PC Gaming, people just come in and say they got free games yet again how does that improve anything.
So it was because he was busy writing an even worst article.
At least we can't deny his perseverance.
It's just so much easier to give Epic credit for the unrelated actions of other companies.
And while their offer was abundant, it's not like Epic invented free games, either.
Basically every major store (Steam, GoG, Uplay, Origin) have been giving away free games every now and then for the last two years AT LEAST.
I remember at some point it got so ridiculous I commented with a friend something like "Jesus Christ, do people who are starting on PC now even need to buy games anymore?"
I don't see how them giving away free games does much other than devalue those games. Why would I ever buy anything on EGS if I'm just going to get it for free down the road? And if I don't get it for free I wait for the exclusivity window to be up & by them on a steam sale. I don't really see any tangible benefits for PC gamers as a whole outside of some free games. Which hey, free games are great, but nothing exciting enough to get me to boot up the launcher to play anything yet.
I'm fairly new to PC gaming and honestly, the free games I've gotten from Epic have been pretty rad, especially the Arkham games. So there has been some positive.
And locking down exclusives is monopolistic by nature, not competitive. Several ofthese exclusives even use VR apis developed by Valve.
I launch EGS whenever I remember to claim whatever game they have. One I usually already own on Steam, probably through Humble Bundle or something. Then I close it and forget about it again.
I realize it's an opinion article, but geez, there are a lot of 'I think' followed by literal guesswork/speculation on the author's part.
Lol.
Uh.....suuuuuuuure.
A good question - why not ask Epic directly?
So....you have no idea, then - especially since Epic hasn't bragged from the high heavens on any sales #'s at all, save for World War Z - and both Metro and Borderlands 3 have some big shady asterisks behind their touted sales numbers. Also, that 'Epic account' is comprised of.....let's say 70% (if not way more) free Fortnite accounts.
This is where the article falls apart. Epic wants market share, and thus, is willing to throw dollars at the problem until it goes away. Devs are, like as not, gonna take a guaranteed payout and keep the light on/food on the table over angry Steam fans, with some few exceptions.
Neither of those statements indicates any sort of certainty in Epic seeing a 'return' on its investment.
And that you can get it for....roughly half-off (at one point) through the RGL rather than Epic (or Steam), and that the Steam sale just ended, and another one will be coming in ~2 weeks.
Uh....wat. Lmao, this is certainly a take.
Hell, the entire premise is predicated (seemingly, at least) on two main factors: That Epic's free 56 games are a huge win for the consumer (they're a pretty good bargain, no doubt, but there's not a lot of 'new' items in there), and that Epic has somehow 'forced' Valve's hand insofar as having Valve 'needing' to respond more quickly than they otherwise might have.
The former has some merit, but the latter is somewhat ludicrous.
And aside from those 'free' games, what has Epic offered the consumer? The only thing I can think of off-hand is higher prices, a walled garden, and lack of choice.
Not what I'd call a 'win' for consumers, at the end of the day.
Lol.
Uh.....suuuuuuuure.
A good question - why not ask Epic directly?
So....you have no idea, then - especially since Epic hasn't bragged from the high heavens on any sales #'s at all, save for World War Z - and both Metro and Borderlands 3 have some big shady asterisks behind their touted sales numbers. Also, that 'Epic account' is comprised of.....let's say 70% (if not way more) free Fortnite accounts.
This is where the article falls apart. Epic wants market share, and thus, is willing to throw dollars at the problem until it goes away. Devs are, like as not, gonna take a guaranteed payout and keep the light on/food on the table over angry Steam fans, with some few exceptions.
Neither of those statements indicates any sort of certainty in Epic seeing a 'return' on its investment.
And that you can get it for....roughly half-off (at one point) through the RGL rather than Epic (or Steam), and that the Steam sale just ended, and another one will be coming in ~2 weeks.
Uh....wat. Lmao, this is certainly a take.
Hell, the entire premise is predicated (seemingly, at least) on two main factors: That Epic's free 56 games are a huge win for the consumer (they're a pretty good bargain, no doubt, but there's not a lot of 'new' items in there), and that Epic has somehow 'forced' Valve's hand insofar as having Valve 'needing' to respond more quickly than they otherwise might have.
The former has some merit, but the latter is somewhat ludicrous.
And aside from those 'free' games, what has Epic offered the consumer? The only thing I can think of off-hand is higher prices, a walled garden, and lack of choice.
Not what I'd call a 'win' for consumers, at the end of the day.
If a meme is born where people thank Epic for solving world issues and improving situations not related to gaming, I will be very happy.
I did enjoy my free games, and since Control is the only game I actually use EGS for, I haven't had many complaints (store with no search functionality being the biggest annoyance.)
I did enjoy my free games, and since Control is the only game I actually use EGS for, I haven't had many complaints (store with no search functionality being the biggest annoyance.)
The only reason valve is more communicative of late is because valve actually had stuff to announce, things that have been in the pipeline already for years before.
They still are same old valve, who goes into dark until they actually have stuff to ship and epics impact in this is like a drop on a hotplate.
For me, and I speak just for me, EGS has been a hot mess. The amount of payment issues with that platform made me give up on getting control on launch day and skipped on a few exclusive indies. I never, ever had an issue with steam in this regard.
Now if we could get epic to make a VR platform, I'm all for that. Steam VR, as cool as it is - needs to be redone - it's still buggy 3 years in. How many times it fails to launch games or freezes up cause it can't close a game is just not ok. Only recently did they make it so scrolling actually worked acceptably with my rift.
LMFAO. WHAT benefits? My god. Delusional writers. When you.consider stealing exclusivity so so the game doesnt appear on steam (but it does o other launchers) competition, then you should not be a journalist.
Right? I mean to me, it was kind of obvious when they said they wanted more technology to tell immersive stories in half life. 90 percent of ppl seemed to ignore it. I find it baffling as well. But hey, there you are, so it wasnt just me that read it too.
What blind loyalty? I most everyone will recognize they've got issues. But that doesn't somehow not make Steam one of the most valuable gaming services on PC.
Unfortunately most coverage of Steam has been steeped in this store wars drama and fellating EGS instead of actual continuing issues like moderation, gambling/money laundering, that French lawsuit involving game trading, etc.
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I would say that the only thing that I could thank Epic for (or maybe the media love for Epic and the pretty biased descriptions) is Valve being more open about what they are doing and talking more (but they have also started changing internally last year when they stopped recommending not to have Twitter / social media profiles).
The level of updates on Steam this year have been on par with last years. Most of them were also linear upgrades from things introduced last year!
MS coming back and trying to win back some PC-rep by coming to Steam has nothing to do with EGS.
EA coming back because they want to have EA Access everywhere possible has nothing to do with EGS.