I don't see how this fucks up anything, but ok, whatever you say
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PCGamesN: Suite of upcoming titles, including The Outer Worlds, launching exclusively on Epic Games Store (Unverified Rumor, Tweet was Deleted)
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Forcing people on shitty services will lead to a raise in piracy.
Because piracy is a service problem.
Yeah so like my common sense thought, I wasn't the crazy one not seeing something that was obvious to everyone else.
So you're saying if Outer Worlds wasn't exclusive to EGS, it wouldn't be pirated? I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...
All concerns that likely matter to devs, I'm sure. None of which affect me as a consumer.
Been using Steam for over a decade now. Never saw a hate-promoting game or an asset flip game except in Jim Sterling videos.
Only tags I filter out are " visual novel", "multi-player" and "early access" . I opted in to be shown adult content.
Steam's not perfect, but as far as I'm concerned, it functions adequately. Most of the games I have on Steam come from resellers anyway.
and for people touting the dumb "but it benefits developers" argument:
https://steamdb.info/app/578650/history/
achievements got added to the Steam version one hour ago. The devs are not even aware yet that their game is going to be a exclusive. They're not going to see a single cent from it.
https://steamdb.info/app/578650/history/
achievements got added to the Steam version one hour ago. The devs are not even aware yet that their game is going to be a exclusive. They're not going to see a single cent from it.
Right now I agree with you, but I think it's just in the shortterm. I doubt Epic will keep "buying" exclusives if they can't make her plataform appealing on its own, both to developers and consumers.
It would be pirated less, because they would be offering a service people are happier to pay for.
This isn't hard.
No, I'm saying because it'll be exclusive it'll be more pirated and less sold.
Piracy will always exist. But because of great platforms existing, people were pirating far less.
Absolutely nothing, that is exactly what he is implying by saying what he said
Epic released their own games on PC. Games that were published by Microsoft didn't come to PC, and considering Halo mysteriously went AWOL on PC around the same time, I think the finger can be pointed at MS there. Epic went multiplatform because piracy was a huge problem for them and because game budgets were rising and rising. They eventually left traditional AAA development behind because they came to view it as unsustainable. It's why they declined to make Gears of War 4.
I actually feel for Obsidian here. They had success with south park (which were good games) but I can still remember the royal screwing they received from Bethesda on the Metacritic bonus.
I don't get the complaints about Steams 'asset flip' and 'bad taste games. I don't really ever see them and I ever play them if I do see them, so what's the issue. Proper games usually are fairly well advertised, along with being shown by curators and other ways of discovery. Sounds like people moaning about something because they want to hate Steam.
Outer Worlds is not available in China, Steams 3rd biggest market nowadays. If a Chinese, if the game is exclusive, wants to play it and not wait 1 year they only can pirate it (or install a VPN and buy it for no regional pricing from US/EU, which is also against chinese law).
The downloaded copies will be higher.
Look at Dawn of Men. Indie Darling. The devs said 60% of their sales come from China. Now take away the choice to buy the game (which they could on Steam) and you lose buyers.
I like the idea that news outlets have these prewritten for all upcoming games like real news outlets have obituaries and they accidentally post sometimes
And yet MCC can be played across both steam and windows store. Cross play for those work. And it was MICROSOFT that did all the work, but it's not like they blocked it.
Steam/valve may not be the greatest company when you look at what they have been doing the past couple years. Far from it, their store is a mess with shit games that should never be allowed on it. They also don't give a good split to developers.
But they don't block the sale of a third party site that sells a game thats on their store.
And honestly once developers unionize i feel that will make a better environment than what epic is trying to do.
It show how much colluded the game press is with the industry. It's kinda scary when we think they are called "journalists".
Some of us aren't saying the consumer should get fucked over. You're not a mind reader.
Outer Wilds is already in Epic store, and it's not that big of a game to be highlighted in the caption. There are more than one titles to be announced, not just Outer Worlds.
A hahahaha wow. Absolutely shameless if true.
But I guess it also gives me a year or so before I need to get it, so maybe the modding community will have plenty by then.
But I guess it also gives me a year or so before I need to get it, so maybe the modding community will have plenty by then.
But they have been doing far more than anyone else in the PC-Gaming sector as a "plattform" itself.
VR
Proton
Family Sharing
SteamLink
Controllers
New server technologies
People seem to forget all about that when they read about "Rape Day" or how some bad indie title didnt sell.
so, off topic, I had to delete the epic store manually cause somehow windows can't do it through the control panel. I deleted every trace of it, or so I thought, but it's still on the list of programs to uninstall. wtf?
that's not what he's implying at all
somehow you interpreted a "rise in piracy if exclusive to egs" as "if Outer Worlds wasn't exclusive to EGS, it wouldn't be pirated"
which is... I'm not even sure how you get there
Yes, and then Gabe made himself a sandwich and laughed at me, it was very humiliating.
I didn't have it downloaded so lost access to it, despite paying for it.
I use ccleaner to clean the entry when something like that happens to me.
I guess this is Epics strategy:
- Secure exclusives in one way or another
- Generate user and traffic
- Implement more functions to launcher
- Continue to secure exclusives to get a "big enough" amount of users
- Somewhere here stop funding (via money) exclusives
- Maintenance and support of EGS
Thats not how Steam works. They wont remove licences to games you bought on the store unless its a beta.
What part of you could still download it you didn't understand?
This is all smokescreen bullshit. Some has been addressed years ago (steam support is stellar), some is mediadriven outrage nonsense (Rapeday, trollgame nobody would ever heard of if media did not publicize its existence), they regularly publish detailed article about what they are doing, which you would have known if you were genuine. And of course, most important point of all, all those companies that are doing exclusivity are doing it for the big wad of cash they get upfront. Not for the "friendlier" revenue split. Valve could drop revenue split 90/10 and they would still go with Epic as long as Epic pays upfront.
Nope, if Epic offered something, anything to make their store worthwhile to me as a consumer than I would've been there. How do you thing GOG became a thing? Because they offered something worthwhile. No one is complaining about GOG being a thing as well.
That is exactly what they are going for, and its going to work it seems
For good, I hope.
I would hate to miss out on the game, but I definitely wouldn't buy if it's Epic Store only.
New split agreement, that while not perfect, it shows that Valve is working on it: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/30...rketplace-revenue-split-new-rules-competition
Is Steam support so bad? Take a look at its stats: https://store.steampowered.com/stats/support
Filters so you would never have to see Rape Day in your frontpage: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/325976/Valves_new_Steam_content_filters_have_finally_arrived.php
Valve also reports their future plans for Steam in GDCs and publish blog posts along the year to reflect in what is happening over Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/app/593110/allnews/
You have also been replied by other users that listed a bunch of improvements that Steam got in the past months, and given that there's a new layout coming for the store, we will be definitely seeing more this year. So, in my opinion, Valve doesn't need to put a fight as they kept improving with or without EGS. Maybe EGS should try putting a fight instead of you know, moneyhatting publishers, while making their users wait 6 months for a shopping cart feature.
I was gonna pick it up on GOG as I prefer DRM free options, but if I have to pick it up on EGS, so be it. I'm a big Obsidian fan and I want to support them. It makes little difference to me personally.
Steam is not without it's controversies either, I'm not seeing any kick back about Steam exclusives.
Steam is not without it's controversies either, I'm not seeing any kick back about Steam exclusives.
are you sure you bought it through steam and not like
some weird off brand Stæm or something
You could've download it you know.
Cause I did back then.
When a game.is delisted on Steam, you can always download it as much as you want.
This would be beyond hilarious, since the Rapid Fire interviewer from Game Informer made a joke about similar sounding names
"Have you ever come home from the office just to realize you've been working on The Outer Wilds all day?"
There's also "outward" published by Deep Silver, releasing next week... Hough I think the devs confirmed it's still coming to Steam.
Currently weighing the options of locking this/leaving it open, since all we have right now is a tweet that seems like it either went out too early or was wrong
Lock and wait for more news or let it ride, thoughts?
Lock and wait for more news or let it ride, thoughts?
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