Think the closer partnership comes at the right moment for both and creates alot of goodwill for MS at this moment with the whole EGS thing going on. I am really excited for the MS PC future with Steam.
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PCGamer: Microsoft's support of Steam is exactly what Valve needs right now
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Funny how Epic needs to throw money around to publishers and devs to get them on board while Steam can just wait and have Bethesda and MS come to them without throwing money around.
Imagine a thread title like that even just a couple years ago. These are strange (but exciting) times we're in
Valve/Steam are fine with or without MS support. Its MS that needs that PC gamer audience.
And ? Of course the established and dominant market leader has to do less to get support than a new unproven competitor.
And ? Of course the established and dominant market leader has to do less to get support than a new unproven competitor.
It's a counter of the prevailing narrative of "AAA games are all leaving Steam", along with Bethesda returning with their tail between their legs.
With that said, there was talk of Xbox Live strings inside Steamworks source code. With that, and the Halo MCC Steam page outright stating that an Xbox Live login is required, I suspect there may be a wider deal allowing Xbox Live and Steamworks SDKs to be connected to each other, primarily for cross-platform play purposes.
With that said, there was talk of Xbox Live strings inside Steamworks source code. With that, and the Halo MCC Steam page outright stating that an Xbox Live login is required, I suspect there may be a wider deal allowing Xbox Live and Steamworks SDKs to be connected to each other, primarily for cross-platform play purposes.
I think it's simply because Steam has a much larger user-base to buy their games + it's a much better product (for both customers and the developer even though maybe financially Epic offers more favorable terms to devs).
tl;dr Steam is still better than Epic, and that doesn't seem to be changing any time soon.
tl;dr Steam is still better than Epic, and that doesn't seem to be changing any time soon.
Bethesda was likely their launcher going awry and them negotiating with Valve behind the scenes
Microsoft's entire corporate philosophy right now is get their stuff on as many platforms/storefronts as possible, they don't care as long as you pay them
Valve definitely didn't 'need' anything but they'll fuckin' take it lol, that's a layup
Microsoft's entire corporate philosophy right now is get their stuff on as many platforms/storefronts as possible, they don't care as long as you pay them
Valve definitely didn't 'need' anything but they'll fuckin' take it lol, that's a layup
Not funny at all. Just common sense. EGS, having a much smaller userbase, has no other feasible way to attract publishers quickly other than "throwing money around".
I know right? Valve is doing great...10 or so games going to Epic isn't going to cause a blip on their radar.
Rumors were that the games were also not selling that well anymore. There was a Bethesda guy on reddit who claimed that while he didn't have detailed statistics he was told by a coworker in the team that preorders for Rage 2 were in the TWO DIGITS numbers before it got back on Steam. Which would be abysmal if confirmed.
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The hilarious implication that Valve were on the ropes because of EGS that PC Gamer and a lot of gaming media love to peddle.
Halo MCC was envitable since it was highly requested by the Halo community itself and change of philosophy at Xbox on how they deliver services on as many platforms as possible as part of Microsoft's renewed business strategy.
Halo MCC was envitable since it was highly requested by the Halo community itself and change of philosophy at Xbox on how they deliver services on as many platforms as possible as part of Microsoft's renewed business strategy.
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If you read the article there isnt any implication at all. They just said they got alot of great games but lost some blockbusters from certain publishers and with MS coming to them wich usually are big games it comes at a nice moment. And its for both a win win.
A very competitive time? Epic's strategy isn't sustainable. All Valve has to do is continue what they've been doing.
I thought 88/12 is all the incentive developers/publishers needed?
I've also heard that Rage 2's PC pre-order numbers were bad prior to the Steam announcement, but I don't think they were that bad.
good. maybe we can get that ufll xbox integration with windows 10. its gonna be awesome to finally see shit like this happen. fuck exclusives, fuck egs and fuck moneyhatting. crossplay, cross saves all the way.
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Lol. If the Bethesda launcher wasn't so awful it might've made it to the thousands
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I'm pro Epic games store. I don't pc game but devs making more money per game is great.
I do think the long-term plan is to use the combination of 88/12, claims of being curated, exploiting developer misconceptions about Steam and "we have the Fortnite audience" to try to get developers to release games exclusively on EGS without Epic paying out a moneyhat. I suspect they'll also make EGS exclusively a requirement for anyone to use their cross-platform multiplayer SDK once that's publicly available.
Whether that's effective or not is unknown, given the small number of games available on the store, the short amount of time it's been open and the talk of the backend currently being a flaming disaster area (preventing Epic from selling their back catalogue on their own store, for example).
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Epic competition... What competition? Valve doesn't have plans to enter a bidding war to get exclusives in Steam. Not that they need to. Another hot take by PCGamer.
I think this was a figure from someone in Eastern Europe talking about figures for that region, not worldwide. Figures are not great though
from what I saw (on this site), is that those were the numbers for the CIS region only. Still awful, though.
Seriously PC gamers what is your major gripe with the Epic games store? From what I have read the system isn't buggy like the MS game store and there does not seem to be any excessive DRM compared to steam. It seems like the only gripe is the fact that they pay for timed exclusives. This is not new, there are other pc game stores with actual exclusives.
It does seem like a mutually beneficial relationship, interesting times ahead for the PC space. More options is always better. MS gonna give PC a nice bump in software diversity. Now gimme Age of Empires :p
That was true (the two digit number thing), but for the Russian region only. It was higher worldwide. Still stupidly low, but higher than that.
Just don't bother anymore. It's not worth it and the staff is clearly OK with it.
Age of Empires is gonna be in their E3, rumors is that AoE2:Defiinite Edition will be a surprise drop during their conference. AoE1:DE is also coming to Steam.
All of them will be crossplay between Steam and MS Store (sadly no crossbuy).
Also guys, just dont bother answer clear bait.
Because Epic is flooding their store with Epic made games and really crushing Valve with them. Like UT2018. Right? ..right?
I'm speaking as someone who's excited for Halo MCC on PC and will get it on Steam, Valve does not "need" Microsoft titles to come to Steam, as great as it is.
They'll just keep trucking along focusing on Steam services, while Epic will keep pissing away millions of their Fortnite money away on an unsustainable strategy to wrestle users away from Steam. I hesitate to even call it competition.
The main gripe, from me, is just that it's another thing. Another company to give my info to, another program to install, another launcher to run in the background, another game library to have separated from my other ones. If this was the only thing aside from Steam, fine, maybe.... but as it now the bifurcation on PC is just becoming very annoying and offers consumers literally no benefit. My games are now spread between GOG, Steam, Uplay, Origin, Battle.net and now there is Epic too.
It's not the end of the world but after a while holding all these accounts is just a hassle that, again, offers absolutely zero benefit whatsoever.
Yea guys whats the gripe!?
*ignores dozens and dozens of pages in this forum alone of people explaining their gripes*
Not Rage 2 PC preorders in a whole, only Eastern Europe market. But yeah, they were really bad on PC, at least sales are more or less fine now in this region thanks to Steam version, nothing amazing but not a complete disaster.