I mean, probably. But backers deserve a better explanation than this. Why they can't be on the store? The game WILL be on the store at some point, so why they can't offer Steam keys?
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PC Version of Phoenix Point (X-Com spiritual successor, crowdfunded game) 1 year exclusive to the Epic Game Store
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I mean, probably. But backers deserve a better explanation than this. Why they can't be on the store? The game WILL be on the store at some point, so why they can't offer Steam keys?
Let me repeat my disgust over this issue.
If i can't really tempt you to understand how much disgusted i am with you you can f@ck off, Julian.
Ok guys now I see Shenmue III is lost for good
Because they probably saw how many people rushed to get Steam keys to avoid the Epic Store and want to put a stop to that. This time its Epic or not at all.
We are talking about indie developers here, most of them have no clue how to do business in a good way unfortunately.
Seriously though it checks all the boxes
Unreal Engine 4 game (that 5% cut goes poof)
Deep Silver published game (good relationship with Epic)
Anticipated AA level game from a dev with a good pedigree
IT'S A SETUP
I feel like backing a game and hoping to get anything other than a console out of it is going to be a liability for a while.
Borderlands 3 and Shemnue rip. They did confirm recently that Biomutant will be on Steam so there is that.
Anyone noticed they're using some site called "transferwise" who you have to send your bank details to to get your money back, with NO alternatives:
Once your refund has been submitted it can take up to 28 business days to process. You will then receive an email from https://transferwise.com/ detailing the amount of the refund. You will be given a link within this email to submit the details for the account where you want the refund deposited. This is an automated process and no alternatives are available.
If you encounter any issues submitting your refund via this form, you can contact us at [email protected] for assistance. This email address will not accept requests to manually process refunds.
Sounds like they're intentionally trying to make it an unpalatable process to go through to mitigate the number of people seeking a refund.
Once your refund has been submitted it can take up to 28 business days to process. You will then receive an email from https://transferwise.com/ detailing the amount of the refund. You will be given a link within this email to submit the details for the account where you want the refund deposited. This is an automated process and no alternatives are available.
If you encounter any issues submitting your refund via this form, you can contact us at [email protected] for assistance. This email address will not accept requests to manually process refunds.
Sounds like they're intentionally trying to make it an unpalatable process to go through to mitigate the number of people seeking a refund.
Is it bad I wanna see this happen just to see the resulting shitshow?
Its also published by Deep Silver.
My only hope is that SEGA has some say in it.
Yeah, when you list it like that it's as good as set in stone. Hopefully it's just a simultaneous release though.
Wasn't going to buy it anyway. Glad to see them filthy steam users are finally getting what's comin' to them!
Yeah, was thinking the same....
Considering how dedicated the fanbase is, what with having to wait nearly 20 years for it, I can't imagine that'd go down well at all.
Yikes... I was considering getting a refund but that puts me off. Mission accomplished I guess....
They're offering refunds to every backer and anyone who pre-ordered. No one would have stand a chance trying to take them to court.
Take Two has gone on record talking about wanting their games everywhere so hopefully BL3 is safe.
Main barrier I can think of is that I can't imagine KS refunds for $6,333,295 being on the table.
Stop with this garbage. They lied. They said the game would be given to backers at release with Steam and GOG keys
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I am curious if Epic offered to help future games with financial backing. There is literally no reason to do this for short term gain.
It takes over a month to process? Are they sending the money by carrier pigeon or something?
I'm guessing they pay fewer fees in transferring the funds to your account (no matter where in the world you may be) through TransferWise. I have a "borderless" account through them that gives me a debit card I can load with multiple currencies. I can at least vouch for them being legitimate. Can't say it's something I've ever seen done like this, though.
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I just got this email and came to ERA to witness the carnage. I'm fine with the Epic Games store and the fact this is netting me a year worth of DLC for free is great. Also glad that they were able to make a deal that's going to keep them working on it for the foreseeable future. Shrug.
I just don't see how indie devs are thinking this is a positive move. Epic must be giving out some serious dish because you are going to burn good will by the sheer fact of switching ships midway especially so when your dev builds have been coming through Steam since now. What will happen with it being in Epic's store? They don't have dev branches, so what do backers who wanted that tier get?
I'm really perplexed as to why someone would do this. Why limit your sales. Why even hamper yourself as an indie dev who already has to struggle. Release on all platforms like you were going to, taking advantage of Epic's dev cut stream to maximise profits but also gain where you wouldn't before.
Why are devs being so stupid...
I'm really perplexed as to why someone would do this. Why limit your sales. Why even hamper yourself as an indie dev who already has to struggle. Release on all platforms like you were going to, taking advantage of Epic's dev cut stream to maximise profits but also gain where you wouldn't before.
Why are devs being so stupid...
From the pure business perspective: guaranteed money in the bank is of greater value than a higher quantity of theoretical future money.
The problem is that I haven't seen a backlash this bad against a new PC game digital distributor since... we're probably talking Steam itself at this rate. Maybe Origin? The point is, I am pretty sure that the backlash is going to be affecting EGS sales. It's not quite "Xbox One announces DRM" bad, but it's getting there.
We also have the problem of late ports (or, in this case, late-to-other-stores) not selling as well as day-and-date ports (presumably because of less marketing around the game at the time of the late port).
And there's a potential problem of longer-term reputational damage as a result of this deal (see how the Tomb Raider reboot series never really recovered from Rise of the Tomb Raider's initial poor sales as an Xbox One exclusive).
Side note: I would find it hard to believe that Ubisoft would be willing to sign up three of their flagship games to EGS without the ability for Ubi to bail out early if targets aren't met.
Sad but true. It's incredible how Epic's pile of Fortnite money is able to take away all shame for devs and publishers involved.
But what if the money is really good and you don't actually care about the backers though?
That AMA is going to be a bloodbath.
Fuck, please no. If Psychonauts 2 goes Epic exclusive, I'll be incredibly pissed.
How is it possible to allow a crowdfunding project to be taken over by someone like Epic. Makes no sense at all to me.,why crowdfund in the first place.
I've already lost a few games I was interested in.
Psychonauts 2 would be a fucking nightmare scenario.