So you're saying it will work in Linux, when it comes to Steam :P
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PC Gaming Era | March 2019 - The Ides of Smarch
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So you're saying it will work in Linux, when it comes to Steam :P
Im pretty sure you can look forward to those articles tomorrow. I will be like The Simpsons:
"Valve announces free dedicated servers for every dev - because of epics conference yesterday"
"Valve announces 20/80 for everyone - because of epic and it is still not enough!"
"Valve released a beta of their GUI - because of epics competitive and consumerfriendly behaviour"
"Valve announces free dedicated servers for every dev - because of epics conference yesterday"
"Valve announces 20/80 for everyone - because of epic and it is still not enough!"
"Valve released a beta of their GUI - because of epics competitive and consumerfriendly behaviour"
Yeah, unless Fortnite is really a gold mine they will run out of money eventually.
Are these things going to turn a profit for Epic, though? Like, how much can they loss-lead, here? The store needs to make a net profit at some point, and I dunno if I see most games doing remotely well. The whole point of the way Epic moneyhats is that the game doesn't need to sell for the developer to see a profit, because Epic pays them out of pocket if sales don't cover costs.
Nothing's kind of the best thing they can do. Keep the high ground, not resort to dirty tactics of their own.
Unfortunately Fortnite has made them enough money to run the store like this for 50 years even if Fortnite ceased to exist today. The money they are spending on all of this so far isn't anything compared to what that game has made and is making for them.
But I doubt this model will ever be profitable unless they find more ways to offload expenses to customers.
Let's imagine for a second that I received a moneyhat from Epic.
I would never, ever mention EGS (or consoles) by name in the Steam news post. I would make that post, I would roughly explain what's happening so that people who really want to play the game can find out how using brains and Google (or Bing), but I would never ever ever say on a Valve-owned Steam forum "THAT SPECIFIC OTHER STORE will have the game day one". If anything I would try to pretend I, the person writing the Steam post, and I, the person who got the moneyhat and wrote an EGS-positive post elsewhere, were two different people. I thought Exodus post was an outlier. But apparently everyone really wants to show off their lack of class now.
I would never, ever mention EGS (or consoles) by name in the Steam news post. I would make that post, I would roughly explain what's happening so that people who really want to play the game can find out how using brains and Google (or Bing), but I would never ever ever say on a Valve-owned Steam forum "THAT SPECIFIC OTHER STORE will have the game day one". If anything I would try to pretend I, the person writing the Steam post, and I, the person who got the moneyhat and wrote an EGS-positive post elsewhere, were two different people. I thought Exodus post was an outlier. But apparently everyone really wants to show off their lack of class now.
On the plus side, we'll probably be just in time for the GOTY edition.
I mean sure, at some point, but the Fortnite war chest combined with Tencent has given them more than enough money to enable this predatory scheme to drive competitors out of the market. That's what we're looking at here. And it's not going to stop.
I hope you're right. Most PCEra posters aren't supporting them and hopefully PC gaming communities all over the internet are doing the same too. Consumers shouldn't give up their rights and support shitty anti-consumer practices just so corporations can make more money.
Yeah. Despite how you feel about the deals themselves, there is a disturbing lack of self awareness among the people who made them. Zero PR skills, basically.
No one is thinking about their future beyond this big sack of Epic money that they have right now.
I decided to clean up my wishlist based on today's news, removed Control and Ancestors, and ended up surprised that it seems that Outward will be released on Steam after all. Truth be told, I have a gigantic backlog and while I'm enjoying being able to preorder games and play them on release day, I wouldn't mind playing the patient gamer card once again when needed. Plus, we will be getting MCC, Konami Collections, Ace Attorney, and many indies that will probably get more attention on Steam now with all those games being moved to 2020. Not happy with EGS throwing money hats for every publisher, but can't say that I'm that bothered at this point.
Wonder what all those Twitter devs with crappy mediocre games think now.
Also
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/rollercoaster-tycoon-adventures/home
Tiring is exactly what ERA as a whole has become. Or was from day 1, one might argue. The last week when I barely lurked was more relaxed so I'm out for the time being for my own sake, made the same decision on GAF long before youknowwhat and didn't ever regret it. Never hold onto things that turned to poo just because you're used to them.
Wonder what all those Twitter devs with crappy mediocre games think now.
Also
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/rollercoaster-tycoon-adventures/home
They legit seem to think their games are the 2nd coming of Jesus so prolly are happy for now, until they get rejected
It's another lie anyways. There is already crap on the store. Just another talking point for EGS defenders to parrot.
I'm pretty sure it was announced recently that it had been delayed (again) until later in the year.
Still shitty don't get me wrong, but not day before release shitty at least.
Wonder what all those Twitter devs with crappy mediocre games think now.
Also
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/rollercoaster-tycoon-adventures/home
Ohhhh mannn
fuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyou Sweeny.
If you'd have been in charge of approving the indies games that have had success since 2009, we wouldn't have a fucking independent games industry.
Hard to disagree with you
I tend to stick to community threads
I'm ok waiting a year for everything. I have plenty of backlog to work through and I'm too out of games to care about experiencing things outside of the "hype" time frame.
Also I would argue that fortnite is a bad game from the one round I played.
Also I would argue that fortnite is a bad game from the one round I played.
I really can't see them doing that. Valve has always been about giving developers freedom to do whatever it is they want. Even though Epic is exploiting that heavily at the moment, it's just hard to imagine Valve abandoning their ethos.
Wonder what all those Twitter devs with crappy mediocre games think now.
Also
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/rollercoaster-tycoon-adventures/home
Hello Neighbor - Epic Games
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Fun Fact: This is literally nepotism because the devs are buds with Galyonkin.
Sorry Epic Store haters, I now support Epic Games!
Dear Tim Sweeney, the souls games are so popular on PC... get on it!
Dear Tim Sweeney, the souls games are so popular on PC... get on it!
That's kinda why GOG exclusivity on older games works- because CDP take the time to make changes to them to make them work on modern systems.
Epic could've found a similar niche, but they chose to do things the anti-consumer way.
I know it would be out of character for Valve to do it and honestly it would be kinda petty from them.
But...I dont know. My hope is that devs realize that Epic's proposal isnt good for them and their customers.
The souls games except for BB and Demon's are already on PC?
I hope they wont!
PC Gaming is still awesome. This is a console centric forum (also full of contrarians lol), of course a lot of users dont see anything bad with this.
Yeah, this is what disgust me the most and also shows that it really isn't about that.
There were no fixed revenue tiers prior to that announcement. 30% was the standard and certain publishers had negotiated more amicable terms with Valve along the years. That wasn't some trade secret, just like the 30% split was never publicly stated by Valve and yet ended up being widely known.
The streamlined tiers were not meant to appease big publishers. Valve has always been in touch with major publishers, a lot of changes to Steam were made to keep them onboard, they were fully aware about what sort of moves were being done and they also knew the EGS was coming. There are always rumblings around developer circles and these are ultimately small communities where most people are fairly well connected.
The announcement about the revenue tiers was mainly done in response to public pressure and to make things more transparent for devs worldwide, in the face of growing dissatisfaction with Steam and the bad PR they've been receiving lately. The new revenue tiers are meant to reward successful independent studios and teams; they're not going to make publishers reconsider anything, only failure will do that.
Good to see more content on the way, this game deserves a lot more success. Seems like the Monthly has been helping too.
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