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PC Game Pass is already affecting my purchasing decision on Steam, is this Microsoft's end goal?
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i like being given a reason to focus on something. as someone who struggles to focus on things it helps.
I played Gears 5 on GP because 1) Steam price is extortionate in the UK, 2) playing Gears on a non-Xbox/Microsoft platform feels wrong and 3) I was super broke at the time, but generally I just try games out on Game Pass and buy whatever I like enough on Steam. Did it with Ape Out and The Messenger recently, decided to purchase both after like ten minutes of playtime.
If I buy a game Day 1, it's usually because I want to support the devs, not necessarily because I want to play it right away.
So I don't see GamePass being a game-changer for me. My preferred store is GOG (for the whole DRM-free ownership aspect), and if a game I like is available as part of a bundle as a Steam code, I'm more likely to check if it's part of GOG's catalogue and wishlist it there than to buy a dirt cheap Steam key.
I can see myself using GamePass to play timed exclusives early (like Phoenix Point or Outer Worlds), or to demo some indie games to decide if I want to buy them elsewhere. But for triple/double A games? I doubt I'll affect my buying patterns much, I'm too entrenched in other ecosystems by now.
So I don't see GamePass being a game-changer for me. My preferred store is GOG (for the whole DRM-free ownership aspect), and if a game I like is available as part of a bundle as a Steam code, I'm more likely to check if it's part of GOG's catalogue and wishlist it there than to buy a dirt cheap Steam key.
I can see myself using GamePass to play timed exclusives early (like Phoenix Point or Outer Worlds), or to demo some indie games to decide if I want to buy them elsewhere. But for triple/double A games? I doubt I'll affect my buying patterns much, I'm too entrenched in other ecosystems by now.
Any games that I plan on playing only once or games I'm unsure about I'll probably play through Game Pass, but anything I want to own long term will still be bought on Steam (or PS5). I certainly won't buy any games through Microsoft's store if I don't have to, but I will happily use Game Pass.
So not the EGS model at all then...
So not the EGS model at all then...
Pretty much and I've said something similar before. GamePass is incredible value, I can't deny that at all, I'd be crazy to do so, but it's not a product aimed at me. If I were a parent or a kid with looots of time, I'd definitely get it.
Earlier this year, I signed up for three years of Game Pass Ultimate, based almost entirely on Phil Spencer's promise of supporting Win32 games on Windows 10. I regret that decision immensely.
As with basically all of Spencer's previous promises, he didn't follow through. Win32 apps downloaded from the Microsoft Store (including all games) still behave the same as UWP, with locked executables, encrypted data and no real exclusive fullscreen mode.
Meanwhile, the same games available on Steam or the Epic Games Store have no such restrictions, and their files and folders can be accessed without the need to jump through several hoops, if users need to fix/modify them.
Halo:MCC/Reach will be the turning point, for me. If the Steam version turns out to run and perform better (as is expected, honestly), I'll do everything in my power to cancel my GP membership, and just purchase the games that I want directly from other platforms.
As with basically all of Spencer's previous promises, he didn't follow through. Win32 apps downloaded from the Microsoft Store (including all games) still behave the same as UWP, with locked executables, encrypted data and no real exclusive fullscreen mode.
Meanwhile, the same games available on Steam or the Epic Games Store have no such restrictions, and their files and folders can be accessed without the need to jump through several hoops, if users need to fix/modify them.
Halo:MCC/Reach will be the turning point, for me. If the Steam version turns out to run and perform better (as is expected, honestly), I'll do everything in my power to cancel my GP membership, and just purchase the games that I want directly from other platforms.
it also means the likelyhood of you ever replaying games is low, so why would you prefer buying instead of "renting"?
Also if the game is leaving game pass, and you are not done, you get a good sized discount on the game to buy it.
Exactly this. And people have zero problem of having to use another launcher despite what "it's just another launcher" crowd believe.
One of my favorite features that isn't talked about enough.
It's not really a majority. I have game pass at the ready for the Master Chief collection and still opted to purchase it on Steam.
Tell me more about this please.
How big a discount is it and is it only applicable if the game is installed or you have launched it once? Or just for everybody on the service?
So far yes as I didn't buy Recore after playing it.
I'll probably still buy The Outer Worlds and Metro Exodus though once they come to Steam
I'll probably still buy The Outer Worlds and Metro Exodus though once they come to Steam
If a game shows up on GamePass that I want to own, I play it on GamePass until I see a deep discount on it for Steam or a physical XBox copy. In the case of Shenmue I+II, I'd thought about buying it, waited, saw it show up on GamePass, didn't get around to playing it, then it showed up in the Humble Monthly Bundle.
If it's not a game I'm dying to play at launch for fear of missing out or getting spoiled (something like Death Stranding), it makes so much sense to wait nowadays. Hell, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order was on sale for $36 at Target on Sunday and that game hasn't even come out yet.
It's a discount for everyone who is on the service, and the discount varies.
If it's not a game I'm dying to play at launch for fear of missing out or getting spoiled (something like Death Stranding), it makes so much sense to wait nowadays. Hell, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order was on sale for $36 at Target on Sunday and that game hasn't even come out yet.
It's a discount for everyone who is on the service, and the discount varies.
I have music and TV subscription, but that's because it's something I can consume within two hours (movies) or while commuting (music). I love playing long games, so rental-subscription isn't attractive for me... yet. I do started humble monthly last month to lock in humble choice, but that's because I 'own' the games indefinitely, so there's no pressure to play as many games as quickly as possible to justify my subscription.
Is there any way to find out which games are scheduled to get removed from the service, and when?
I'm guessing it's a bit early for that to start happening, but still...
I'm guessing it's a bit early for that to start happening, but still...
For the most part....yeah. If something is on GamePass I am much less likely to purchase on Steam. However....I've gotta get MCC on Steam. The community will probably be more robust and I want to give them my money...again. Reach holds a spot deep in my heart and I wouldn't feel right not paying.
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The majority of them are for PC & XBox. Some of them XBox only and the rest are PC only. It's quite balanced.
I'm going to jump into the 3 months ultimate thing. GP on PC for me, and Console for my daughter as a test run.
Looking to play Gears 5, OW, Metro Exodus, Shadow of War, Reach, and a few others during this time.
If both me and daughter think it's worth it, then Ill keep Ultimate, otherwise maybe either GP PC or console only.
Games which I would like to own at some point, I'll buy for my collection when really cheap.
Looking to play Gears 5, OW, Metro Exodus, Shadow of War, Reach, and a few others during this time.
If both me and daughter think it's worth it, then Ill keep Ultimate, otherwise maybe either GP PC or console only.
Games which I would like to own at some point, I'll buy for my collection when really cheap.
Really? The big ones from today were the yakuza games and final fantasy games, both of which I assumed were xbox only for games pass. is that not the case?
I'm actually very happy about not owning games I have no intention of replaying. Most recently is Outer Worlds where I got to play at launch for a really low outlay whereas previously I would wait six months or more and pay $20-30 for it. Happy to go former for games I don't care too much about, but for my favorite games(i.e. Yakuza) I don't mind paying to "own" them.
I don't think it's their "end goal" no, I think Microsoft basically shifted from a "how can we extract as much money from existing customers as possible, while also getting new customers from outside gaming into the fold" to a "lets try to get a huge amount of people who play games into our ecosystem and give them reasons to get comfy and stay" strategy. That's the best way I can put it.
They went from "gaming has peaked, lets bring other markets into the Xbox brand" to "gaming is for everyone, lets try to build the market so even more people game and choose us".
It's kinda wholesome, because it feels like Microsoft believes in video games again. It's the same "feeling" I felt when Sony said they would double down on games at the PS4 reveal event, except it felt particularly amazing at that event because everyone was calling console gaming a sinking ship, Sony were like no, we will help it grow again.
They went from "gaming has peaked, lets bring other markets into the Xbox brand" to "gaming is for everyone, lets try to build the market so even more people game and choose us".
It's kinda wholesome, because it feels like Microsoft believes in video games again. It's the same "feeling" I felt when Sony said they would double down on games at the PS4 reveal event, except it felt particularly amazing at that event because everyone was calling console gaming a sinking ship, Sony were like no, we will help it grow again.
No hasn't effected mine though I think it and PSNow are good deals and the future.
I'm a "hardcore" gamer (for lack of better words) There are very few games that I want to play that I don't buy near release and move on to the next new release once finished.
I have completed most of the big and critically acclaimed titles once they reach PSNow and Game Pasd
I'm a "hardcore" gamer (for lack of better words) There are very few games that I want to play that I don't buy near release and move on to the next new release once finished.
I have completed most of the big and critically acclaimed titles once they reach PSNow and Game Pasd
You can always buy as usual, except with a discount if you decide to buy it from Gamepass
Poll needs a couple of extra options, like "No, because Gamepass for PC is not available in my country", and "No, because I'm not running Windows 10". And then the "allow multiple answers" checkbox, because I'd pick both of those.
More of a mix.
Played Outerworlds on GamePass and really glad about that because it didn't live up to my expectations and saved me some money...to purchase MCC today on Steam. Judging by its status at the top of Steam's best selling list it seems like a lot of PC players were waiting for MCC as judged by its top 2 spot on the User Wishlist.
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Played Outerworlds on GamePass and really glad about that because it didn't live up to my expectations and saved me some money...to purchase MCC today on Steam. Judging by its status at the top of Steam's best selling list it seems like a lot of PC players were waiting for MCC as judged by its top 2 spot on the User Wishlist.
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Good point. I dont think I've ever seen anyone on a tv show or music thread advocating against Netflix or Spotify because they prefer to buy things heh.
This is absolutely the goal. Microsoft would love everyone to be paying them a monthly amount regardless of platform. Their hardware is just part of a much broader picture.
I assume the plan is pretty much to just continue trying to make this thing incredibly attractive to all gamers - it ends up being a win for all.
I assume the plan is pretty much to just continue trying to make this thing incredibly attractive to all gamers - it ends up being a win for all.
This crops up every now and again, and I find it ludicrous.
Just send me $50 any time you play a game if you really want to feel like you're invested...
Forgive me I actually don't know if this is sarcastic or not! Spent too long on the internet I guess.
As a former compulsive dvd and cd collector I sure as hell don't miss it! Embraced all digital as soon as I could. Hate the clutter of stuff gathering dust.
I feel like a lot of PC Gamers are sleeping on Origins Access Basic, especially if saving money is a goal.
£20/year. That's it. Currently around 250 games and they add more every month. Big EA releases arrive on the service around 6 months after they launch, but for those you can't wait for you get discount on buying them for being a member. It's such good value for money it even outshines Game Pass (which is still awesome, I'm not denying that!)
£20/year. That's it. Currently around 250 games and they add more every month. Big EA releases arrive on the service around 6 months after they launch, but for those you can't wait for you get discount on buying them for being a member. It's such good value for money it even outshines Game Pass (which is still awesome, I'm not denying that!)
As much as I love GP (I'm subbed until 2021 Nov.) if I want to play a game at launch, I will buy that game at launch. I consider Game Pass as free XGS exclusive + surprise games machine. I can't plan my gaming life around the possibility of a game I want to play dropping on Game Pass after its launch.
whats so ridiculous about tryin to have areason to stick with something when there's tons of games out their vying for my attention? when you have the entire catalog avaible to you your more likely to jump around more often and not commit to anything. i actually want to finish games, not taste test.
Game Pass& EA Premier has stopped me be buying mid tier and indie games in order to get some sort of value to the service apart from the few day one exclusives, unless they are truly spectacular, It won't stop be buying stuff like Cyberpunk or Vampire: Bloodlines on release.
I share my accounts with my Nephew as I don't feel as bad paying for subscription, also I very rarely replay games so ownership isn't a big deal these days.
I share my accounts with my Nephew as I don't feel as bad paying for subscription, also I very rarely replay games so ownership isn't a big deal these days.
That sound stupid but it's how I feel as well.
It's like when I was pirating games for the PSP back in the day. Even if some of those were great games I rarely finished them.
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You can actually add Game Pass (UWP) games to Steam and still enjoy the Steam API controller support.
Yeah, if The Outer Worlds weren't in Game Pass and available on Steam since day 1, I would've bought it and get disappointed. I'm really struggling to finish the game and I was so hyped for it pre-release. The glowing reviews didn't help either, lots of cons not mentioned at all.More of a mix.
Played Outerworlds on GamePass and really glad about that because it didn't live up to my expectations and saved me some money...to purchase MCC today on Steam. Judging by its status at the top of Steam's best selling list it seems like a lot of PC players were waiting for MCC as judged by its top 2 spot on the User Wishlist.
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