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PC cases like the new Xbox series X tower - how feasible?
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given the kind of hardware that's popular on steam surveys, SFF cases akin to the Series X case would make sense
how did the rip it off when this thread is literally people not being able to find the exact same thing on pc?
i do get it sort of looks like a pc tower though, of course.
Okay wow, this looks like the closest match to the XSX, even down to the top air vents:
Yeah that's what I meant. I never really looked into smaller PCs though. It just seemed like something that would exist at least.
The closest thing is still a hadron and that thing is like 10 years old now. It even has a slot load drive spot. I had one. They may have revised and now the slot load is gone, but it had it.
video posted todayOkay wow, this looks like the closest match to the XSX, even down to the top air vents:
For me, the design aesthetics of the XSX tower is its squarish base and top vents. There are many SFF cases, but they tend to have oblong bases that extend into a tower. Even a cube shape misses the mark for me.The closest thing is still a hadron and that thing is like 10 years old now. It even has a slot load drive spot. I had one. They may have revised and now the slot load is gone, but it had it.
there are top vents on the hadron too. You can put a 240 rad in there. It's nice.
Checking the video out revealed that the case also has a slot for an optical drive by the top vents, which is rather neat and discreet! But the build cost - north of 1300 USD!
I really like the idea of larger rads, and it does look nice. This Silverstone Lucid LD01 is also tempting me:
I regret not getting an ITX motherboard.
I went mATX and a mATX case, a low profile heatsink, and a smaller sized graphics card. It ended up still being pretty large, and there's a ton of wasted space inside.
I never overclock so heats never an issue, and I never plan to use 2 graphics cards (or a disc drive or multiple internal HDDs) so I don't need so much space.
Next time I upgrade I'm definitely going to go as small as I can.
I'm curious how long my 1070 and i5 8400 will last me into the next generation. My PCs been great this whole generation. Not caring about 4K has definitely helped and not liking max settings on a lot of games is helpful for framerate too.
Ive probably got 3 more years before I even start thinking about it.
I went mATX and a mATX case, a low profile heatsink, and a smaller sized graphics card. It ended up still being pretty large, and there's a ton of wasted space inside.
I never overclock so heats never an issue, and I never plan to use 2 graphics cards (or a disc drive or multiple internal HDDs) so I don't need so much space.
Next time I upgrade I'm definitely going to go as small as I can.
I'm curious how long my 1070 and i5 8400 will last me into the next generation. My PCs been great this whole generation. Not caring about 4K has definitely helped and not liking max settings on a lot of games is helpful for framerate too.
Ive probably got 3 more years before I even start thinking about it.
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Huh, I was going to post and say that the exact form factor would be difficult, because pc components are all designed to exhaust heat in specific ways. In any small case getting some kind of decent airflow is key and having one top mounted case fan doesn't really seem like it would achieve that. E.g. other small cases have perforated sides to let the graphics card exhaust straight out, rather than up through the case.Okay wow, this looks like the closest match to the XSX, even down to the top air vents:
Going to check out the video in a bit, I'm really intrigued!
The Louqe Ghost 1 is all you need. Great looks and great air flow. It's kind of expensive though. The nice thing is that you can fit basically any Gpu in it.
I feel like quite a few posters are missing the point. There are some amazing, very small, cases, but none are quite the same size and shape with a top vent only.
Lots of lovely cases to browse but they don't really answer the question.
The video build was interesting, I think ddr4 ram was the only big difference to the series X spec?
Lots of lovely cases to browse but they don't really answer the question.
The video build was interesting, I think ddr4 ram was the only big difference to the series X spec?
Pretty much this
Pc cases usually look so damn tacky - extreeeeeme gamer yeah
That thing is gonna run way hotter and louder than an Xbox, also why using an Nvidia card when they will use AMD, we can try to replicate the Xbox with PC components but it's not that easy since they are gonna use custom hardware based on Laptops parts rather than desktop
Why do people care how hot things run? As long as it doesn't hit the Tjunction max or Tcase max I cant see why I should care whether it is operating at 20degrees or 90degrees. The same heat will be coming out of the computer/console regardless.
LZ7: mini gpu, smaller cpu cooler
LZ7 XTD: full sized gpu, bigger cpu cooler
Pricey and kind of brand new, not a whole lot of these out there. High end CPU aircooling options seem like a non starter. If all you want is a Series X style form factor and RTX ?070/?080 Ti tier graphics capability, these will do.
For example, for a hypothetical build I'm thinking about making one day:
The Ncase M1 V6 can't fit a NH-U12a or D15 variant. The biggest it fits is a NH-C14s, which gets eh marks from Noctua for 3900x/3950x boost clock cooling, most likely on a test bench with the stock fans. However, the case supports two fans mounted on the side, and the V6 psu mounting changes allow for the full stock 140mm fan to fit in the low profile config without user fixes. That's 3 fans, now add 2 more for the gpu (or remove the bottom portion of the case entirely, new to the V6) and the exhaust in the back. That's a lot more airflow than the typical ITX case. Add to that, the v6 also supports weird boards like the mini DTX Crosshair VIII Impact, AND the stock NH-C14s at the same time. The PSU can be flipped flat for more top and bottom fan access, this is a pic from a v5 before the fix.
A Positive/negative pressure airflow study in an Ncase M1 v5. Shit's complicated, depending on what you want to do.
LZ7 XTD: full sized gpu, bigger cpu cooler
Pricey and kind of brand new, not a whole lot of these out there. High end CPU aircooling options seem like a non starter. If all you want is a Series X style form factor and RTX ?070/?080 Ti tier graphics capability, these will do.
Ryzen 3000 boost clocks are very temperature sensitive, in the same way modern gpus are. The hotter your components run, the more cooling they need, and the louder your fans are. Depending on your cpu, you've got to play a difficult game with cooling.
For example, for a hypothetical build I'm thinking about making one day:
The Ncase M1 V6 can't fit a NH-U12a or D15 variant. The biggest it fits is a NH-C14s, which gets eh marks from Noctua for 3900x/3950x boost clock cooling, most likely on a test bench with the stock fans. However, the case supports two fans mounted on the side, and the V6 psu mounting changes allow for the full stock 140mm fan to fit in the low profile config without user fixes. That's 3 fans, now add 2 more for the gpu (or remove the bottom portion of the case entirely, new to the V6) and the exhaust in the back. That's a lot more airflow than the typical ITX case. Add to that, the v6 also supports weird boards like the mini DTX Crosshair VIII Impact, AND the stock NH-C14s at the same time. The PSU can be flipped flat for more top and bottom fan access, this is a pic from a v5 before the fix.
A Positive/negative pressure airflow study in an Ncase M1 v5. Shit's complicated, depending on what you want to do.
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It's not a vertical case like the Series X, but have a look at the Dan A4. I think it's actually slightly smaller then the Series X but still supports a full size GPU, and has a very nice minimalist design:
I have the Dan A4 v2 and it's probably my favorite case of all time. A pleasure to work in, extremely nice looking and fits my 9900K/32GB/2080 build perfectly!
The the closest in size yet, still marginally larger though and no room for a disc drive. It's gonna be really interesting to see how they have crammed it all into the X and kept it "silent"
Agreed! Really interested and curious to see the final specs next year.
Who wants an internal disc drive on a PC these days anyway. Even massive cases like the InWin 909 don't bother with a slot for one anymore.
The only benchmarks I can find https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3492-ryzen-cpu-thermals-matter-coolers-and-cases show a 6.4% drop in performance in Ryzen 3000 (-80degrees vs 84 degrees) and a 4% drop for (55 vs 84 degrees). Whilst that's more than I expected (due to Intel not using the same behaviour) I'd rather have a quieter machine that ran hotter, especially if I am probably already compromising performance by using a smaller case.
If I didn't want ITX, then what is a good mATX case for watercooling? By choosing a larger case, I would consider SLI/ Crossfire with dual waterblocks. I can't seem to find dual water-cooled GPUs in mATX cases. This Thermaltake Level 20VT looks interesting:
I have a similarly-sized case and it runs very cool and quiet. Helps that it has 4 case fans.