Paying to work for EXPOSURE

SeriousGoku · Dec 28, 2019

Get this shit all the time as a professional photographer. Sickening.

Other photographers who do work for free/dirt cheap aren't helping though. They are just as guilty.

Bakercat · Dec 28, 2019

That email, jesus. But yeah, this is the life of a indy pro wrestler.

StarStorm · Dec 28, 2019

Delphine said:
So, crediting Finale Fireworker for being the original curator of this video, Mist for finding it again when FiFi couldn't, B-Dubs for liking it on Twitter (???) and Poodlestrike for *checks notes* existing, I guess. But here's a revelant Tik Tok video that made us all laugh enough that I feel we ought to share:

This is gold lol.

atomsk · Dec 28, 2019

I've been doing just about everything myself on my youtube channel for about 7 years now, though at 75k subs I wouldn't exactly call it "successful"

hell, I paid for the fonts I use, and you know most people are just stealing those

PAY PEOPLE FOR WORK

(insert joke about how youtube isn't a "real job" here)

Iron Mike · Dec 28, 2019

I'm not doubting that there are real examples of people being offered to work for exposure, but it really does seem like such an easy way to get your name out there as an artist by creating something like this and having it go viral.

onadesertedisland · Dec 28, 2019

Iron Mike said:
I'm not doubting that there are real examples of people being offered to work for exposure, but it really does seem like such an easy way to get your name out there as an artist by creating something like this and having it go viral.

I think game makers should do the same. Just kidding. No pay, no work. Exposure is worthless.

Deleted member 6582 · Dec 28, 2019

There's a generalization of this which people still adhere to which is putting your content out for free and then begging people to pay for it. Patreon, humble bundle etc. This is devaluing the work of whole industries and is why people think it's fine pay little to nothing for labour (if X can make it free why can't you?). Have some self-respect and ask people to pay money.

sgtnosboss · Dec 28, 2019

Fuckkkk that. That such shit

XaviConcept · Dec 28, 2019

Yeah its a thing, particularly for people starting out. Luckily Ive never really had to deal with this shit.

nel e nel · Dec 28, 2019

This is common is music as well, aka "pay to play".

Mudkip Xbox Series X · Dec 28, 2019

Make sure you work out the deal first

Soma · Dec 28, 2019

I post my art on Instagram and I actually got this in my dms this past year

And that's not even the only one.

I've had dozens of people reach out to me for design work that instantly dip out and don't respond as soon as I tell them my prices :|

Iron Mike · Dec 28, 2019

onadesertedisland said:
I think game makers should do the same. Just kidding. No pay, no work. Exposure is worthless.

What I meant was creating fictitious screenshots of these kind of ridiculous offers. If I was an unscrupulous enterprising artist, I'd notice that so many of these kind of screenshots go viral on Reddit and create my own.

1. Set up two email addresses
2. Use one to make a comically derisory offer to the other one and screenshot it
3. Post it on /r/choosybeggars
4. It goes viral, you're on the main page of Reddit and your work gets exposure

I'm not saying there aren't genuine offers like this that deserve to be ridiculed, or saying that this one is fake, but I imagine people have already clocked onto and are exploiting the above method for the huge exposure it brings.

TaySan · Dec 28, 2019

Art is being so devalued it's ridiculous . Streaming, Gamepass etc people pay next to nothing and expect this stuff to be made for free or dirt cheap.

Bumrush · Dec 28, 2019

Wild ride...you assume that the person is saying they'll pay $50 and even that is appalling...but...no...

Akira86 · Dec 28, 2019

cheap asses. just call em out.

EdgeXL · Dec 28, 2019

SeriousGoku said:
Get this shit all the time as a professional photographer. Sickening.

Other photographers who do work for free/dirt cheap aren't helping though. They are just as guilty.

But all you are doing is pushing a button!

/s

supernormal · Dec 28, 2019

I get a lot of offers like these for photography which I usually don't even respond to. But when I do...I ofter my exposure package.

In exchange for exposure, you will get either an on location or studio shoot for up to 0 hours, with 0 makeup artist and 0 clothing changes. You will get an email with 0 photos in order to choose up to 0 photos for retouch and delivery in high-res.

They usually get the message when you answer like that.

Deleted member 5596 · Dec 28, 2019

Fantastapotamus said:
Having a hard time believing this is real tbh
It's too perfectly set up for the "reveal" but what do I know.

I can see a wannabe kid Youtuber thinking this is how the world works.

StopMakingSense · Dec 28, 2019

Iron Mike said:
What I meant was creating fictitious screenshots of these kind of ridiculous offers. If I was an unscrupulous enterprising artist, I'd notice that so many of these kind of screenshots go viral on Reddit and create my own.

1. Set up two email addresses
2. Use one to make a comically derisory offer to the other one and screenshot it
3. Post it on /r/choosybeggars
4. It goes viral, you're on the main page of Reddit and your work gets exposure

I'm not saying there aren't genuine offers like this that deserve to be ridiculed, or saying that this one is fake, but I imagine people have already clocked onto and are exploiting the above method for the huge exposure it brings.

Offers like this happen in the real world all the damn time

Akira86 · Dec 28, 2019

Iron Mike said:
What I meant was creating fictitious screenshots of these kind of ridiculous offers. If I was an unscrupulous enterprising artist, I'd notice that so many of these kind of screenshots go viral on Reddit and create my own.

1. Set up two email addresses
2. Use one to make a comically derisory offer to the other one and screenshot it
3. Post it on /r/choosybeggars
4. It goes viral, you're on the main page of Reddit and your work gets exposure

I'm not saying there aren't genuine offers like this that deserve to be ridiculed, or saying that this one is fake, but I imagine people have already clocked onto and are exploiting the above method for the huge exposure it brings.

no shade, but i don't think this particular artist is trying to gain massive mainstream appeal for his work by pretending to have run across an asshole on the internet...

StopMakingSense · Dec 28, 2019

SageShinigami said:
My buddy works on photography. He's worked for numerous paying clients, but for whatever reason some cosplay model contacted him and was like, "Hey I'm going to be in your area and I'd love to work with you. If you're interested I can send you my rates!"

My guy was baffled. Who contacts a person and tells them how much they'll charge to allow them to do work??

They were already selling photos to fans...but also expected to also get the photographer to pay them for doing work for them.

That kinda sounds like a different thing? Like she's offering herself for modeling services while in the city if the photographer had any need for one. Seems likes some missed wires. Probably just trying to maximize her earnings on a work trip while already doing the cosplay thing.

Iron Mike · Dec 28, 2019

StopMakingSense said:
Offers like this happen in the real world all the damn time

Akira86 said:
no shade, but i don't think this particular artist is trying to gain massive mainstream appeal for his work by pretending to have run across an asshole on the internet...

I addressed both of those in my post.

TarpitCarnivore · Dec 28, 2019

Zombine said:
I speak for just about everyone in every tertiary industry where these people think they run your lively hood:

Fuck "influencers." You're an influencer? You pay double.

This photographer on reddit explained his "anti influencers booking https://reddit.com/r/photography/comments/eggym9/_/fc6u95q/?context=1

Basically he charges them normal rate but if the influencer actually brings in business for the photographer they'll pay them back X percent

Box · Dec 28, 2019

Delphine said:

Cheers that was great :D

Not quite the same as the thread premise but this one cracked me up back in the day.

Bloke said no obviously.

Dear Social Influencer (I know your name but apparently it's not important to use names),

Thank you for your email looking for free accommodation in return for exposure. It takes a lot of balls to send an email like that, if not much self-respect and dignity.

If I let you stay here in return for a feature in a video, who is going to pay the staff who look after you? Who is going to pay the housekeepers who clean your room?

The waiters who serve you breakfast? The receptionist who checks you in? Who is going to pay for the light and heat you use during your stay?

He asked: "Maybe I should tell my staff they will be featured in your video in lieu of receiving payment for work carried out while you're in residence?"

To which she lost her shit and posted a cry video, slamming the restaurant and the owner and attempted to set the 'blogger community' on him leaving negative reviews and whiney Twitter posts

His response.

I'd just like to say a huge thanks to all the bloggers for their hard work over the past two days.

The publicity you've given us is absolutely priceless. But don't worry bloggers, your work won't going unnoticed. It will be featured in my book 'How To Get Worldwide Publicity Without Spending A Cent'.

I'm even thinking of dedicating a full chapter to you guys, including screenshots of some of your most entertaining public tweets, Facebook posts and negative reviews. It will be some chapter!

Keep the hateful comments and reviews coming and, you never know, it could be you who is featured in the book.

Thank you bloggers, I really appreciate this.

"PS. You're still barred."

Article with some of her supporter's tweets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...be-vloggers-flooded-business-bad-reviews/amp/

Flaurehn · Dec 28, 2019

"For exposure" is my trigger phrase as a photographer lol

I am a Bird · Dec 28, 2019

I will gladly pay you Tuesday for an art commission today.

$10 Bagel · Dec 28, 2019

Annubis said:
«Your uniform will be deducted from your first paycheck.»

Damn, I never had that happen to me.

the fuck is that shit

SageShinigami · Dec 28, 2019

StopMakingSense said:
That kinda sounds like a different thing? Like she's offering herself for modeling services while in the city if the photographer had any need for one. Seems likes some missed wires. Probably just trying to maximize her earnings on a work trip while already doing the cosplay thing.

If you're looking for a photographer, you advertise that in public. You don't message a person who didn't even say they were looking for models.

Prax · Dec 28, 2019

Here's one I got (read from bottom up lol):

They then blocked me bc.. lol???

NTGYK · Dec 28, 2019

Delphine said:
So, crediting Finale Fireworker for being the original curator of this video, Mist for finding it again when FiFi couldn't, B-Dubs for liking it on Twitter (???) and Poodlestrike for *checks notes* existing, I guess. But here's a revelant Tik Tok video that made us all laugh enough that I feel we ought to share:

This was amazing.

night814 · Dec 28, 2019

Crossing Eden said:
https://twitter.com/forexposure_txt

I bring this example up in real life when people ask what an influencer is.

Saw the same thread Krej, that shit is vapid as fuck.

Musubi · Dec 28, 2019

I saw this before this is so dumb it has to be satire of idiots trying to get people to work for exposure right? ...right? Cause goddamn pay me $50 is another level.

RedSonja · Dec 28, 2019

Just...fucking...wow.

TaySan · Dec 28, 2019

Prax said:
Here's one I got (read from bottom up lol):

They then blocked me bc.. lol???

Wow dude was never going to pay you.

Prax · Dec 28, 2019

TaySan said:
Wow dude was never going to pay you.

guess i will never be an s-class artist ;w;

(s stands for sucker in this case haha)

night814 · Dec 28, 2019

Espi said:
Damn, I never had that happen to me.

the fuck is that shit

I believe it's super prominant in food service/fast food

John Dunbar · Dec 28, 2019

the artist whose tweet that is has some very interesting art.

Protoman200X · Dec 28, 2019

Oh, boy.

As someone who has done freelance design & storyboards across a multitude of different clients, I had my fair share of "I'll pay you for exposure!" creeps that think I can live off of nothing.

lunarworks · Dec 28, 2019

The founders of GamingAge still owe me a fucking hambuger for work I did back in 1999.

night814 · Dec 28, 2019

Box said:
Cheers that was great :D

Not quite the same as the thread premise but this one cracked me up back in the day.

Bloke said no obviously.

To which she lost her shit and posted a cry video, slamming the restaurant and the owner and attempted to set the 'blogger community' on him leaving negative reviews and whiney Twitter posts

His response.

Article with some of her supporter's tweets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...be-vloggers-flooded-business-bad-reviews/amp/

This is stellar

Polk · Dec 28, 2019

Espi said:
Damn, I never had that happen to me.

the fuck is that shit

It's "great" way to offer wage below required minimal. I've only seen it at security and maintanance/cleaning positions.

crimsonECHIDNA · Dec 28, 2019

Rygar 8Bit said:
Why does it have to be about money man? Don't you remember when people used to do things for people just to make them happy?

Wooboy this in particular really ticks me off, randos who are constantly trying to fish for "free requests." It's always the same bullshit too; offer a shallow compliment to the artist followed by pitching an idea you'd just love to see them draw, and then getting pissy whenever the artist refers them to their comission policy.

smurfx · Dec 28, 2019

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

plenty of idiots on here asking people to work for exposure. it definitely happens.

smurfx · Dec 28, 2019

CranberryChocolateSundae said:
I want to be a photographer and this is true on so many levels.

"but you just push a button, anyone can do it" said the person that couldn't even held my camera right and got her fingers plastered on the lens.

$10 Bagel · Dec 28, 2019

smurfx said:

Lmfao

I wouldn't even abide by those rules if it was for a friend and I'm probably the worst photographer on the planet

the fuck is wrong with people

like even if someone wanted "the exposure" you can't even give them food and drinks?

Dark Ninja · Dec 28, 2019

Wow some of these posts are crazy. Pay me to work for me for free. haha goddamn!

Quantum Leap · Dec 28, 2019

night814 said:
I believe it's super prominant in food service/fast food

I would have quit my old restaurant job day 1 if they expected me to pay for their ugly ass uniforms.

StopMakingSense said:
That kinda sounds like a different thing? Like she's offering herself for modeling services while in the city if the photographer had any need for one. Seems likes some missed wires. Probably just trying to maximize her earnings on a work trip while already doing the cosplay thing.

No soliciting, k thanks

smurfx said:

There's no way in hell they actually found a photographer meeting those requirements

Sectorseven · Dec 28, 2019

Forget exposure, I'll do it just for the life experience.

Kard8p3 · Dec 28, 2019

The only exposure that should be involved is exposing the fucks who try to do this shit.

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