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PAX responds to Colin Moriarty controversy but will "not issue refunds" (PAX West panel cancelled)
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Didn't this guy dox an ea employee and insist she was somehow completely responsible for MEA's animations and imply that she got the job because of her looks?
Believe Colin is a banned person to talk about due to certain views he has, the PAX topic is the only thing keeping it alive I assume.
ah well in that case this guy and his fans can get fucked
Love how all of a sudden TOS are so important and everyone should read them. This is a shitty way of handling an already bad situation and regardless of the individual to whom it happened, this isn't how you conduct business — or treat those that are attending your event.
Well no it's because he's a grifter like the rest of the right wing internet media darlings
Yeah, what a shame.
This is also just one panel, so unless I'm mistaken it's not really an issue.
I mean if they purchased a pass specifically sold for the panel, then sure. They should get a refund. But if they purchased a pass to the convention itself and had planned to see the panel, and the panel is cancelled, not much for it.
They didn't actually ban him, they were going to let him keep/use the passes that he'd have been getting for doing his panel, and invited him to come still (which I actually think was a little odd but it's what they did).
They also offered to reimburse him for his air travel costs.
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I wonder who actually operates PAX West, it's not PAX themselves according to this site:
From the announcement he posted on July 12:
I mean........
(The same Patreon announcement includes a comment from a fan saying, "I'm legit shocked that they let you have a panel." It also includes Moriarty responding to a fan's hope that the event doesn't draw protesters with Moriarty adding, "Frankly, I kinda hope we do. LOL." No idea if such a statement might've been read by PAX organizers as an issue on their end; clearly, they're not saying so.)
I mean........
(The same Patreon announcement includes a comment from a fan saying, "I'm legit shocked that they let you have a panel." It also includes Moriarty responding to a fan's hope that the event doesn't draw protesters with Moriarty adding, "Frankly, I kinda hope we do. LOL." No idea if such a statement might've been read by PAX organizers as an issue on their end; clearly, they're not saying so.)
So logical that it's completely illogical. The US isn't limited in resources as you said and even if it was the border shit has nothing to do with that. Don't give Colin a second cause that logic shit is his whole thing.
They paid for PAX not a singular panel, correct? If that's the case why would they get refunds.
Also fuck Colin
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Why the hell would they refund passes after cancelling one panel? Anyone could claim they were only going for the panel. Not like PAX Passes are hard to sell anyway if he was on the Saturday or Sunday.
I can't muster any empathy for somebody who pays to see Colin Moriarty tbqh
I'd more likely just ban them too. Keep the bigots out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'd more likely just ban them too. Keep the bigots out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wouldn't surprise me. Here's a direct quote from his "Rant on GamerGate" video:
"But what is relevant is the content of the person's character. And unfortunately, the character of Anita Sarkeesian, and of Zoe Quinn, are piss-poor. But when you comment on that, when you criticize someone like Anita Sarkeesian, or Zoe Quinn, immediately you're attacking them because you are a white male virgin, or, or, some other stupid generalization like that. And they have the nerve to tell us that we generalize feminists? All because we criticize Anita Sarkeesian for lying? Which she did? And because we criticize Zoe Quinn for sleeping with people for favors, for positive press? Which she did?"
He can absolutely go fuck himself.
Oh no, won't anyone please think of the poor neo-fascists!
ReedPOP has been running every PAX expo for years; they bought the rights to its operation and management.
The only way a refund would make any sense would be if someone purchased a Monday-only pass after July 12. Otherwise, four-day passes sold out May 30, and this panel wasn't confirmed/publicized until July 12 (as cited above). That announcement said the panel would be livestreamed, anyway, which might've contributed to fans electing not to buy passes and just watch it online for free. (There's no single-panel purchases at any PAX show or concert, btw.)
Hang on lemme grab my tiny violin for all the Colon Moriarty supporters....
Doesn't surprise me, so many horrible people in the world that latch on to people like him. Look at Alex Jones.
I do feel that being able to treat even the worst shitheads in a consistent way that is professional and fair makes the action of deplatforming such people stronger. It's not about sympathy or feelings for the shitheads.
And there's more. I mean you could just easily read all the other posts here too since they have examples.
A clean-shaven bouncer in a nice suit escorting them out the facilities, firmly and quickly.
It's not logical. It's very common (this same belief drove the Brexit vote in my country) but shows a lack of understanding that overpopulation is a global issue, migration specfically doesn't affect resources much in a global society, and anyone truly concerned about the number of humans in the world (and to be fair we really should be) should be looking at reducing their carbon footprint, consuming sustainably, and pushing for measures like less reliance on meat farming and a bigger investment in GM crops so we can effectively sustain a continually growing human population without resorting to deforestation of rainforests. If you consume beef, you're placing demand on that deforestation for example, directly or indirectly depending on how you shop.
Arguing to shut the borders isn't a logical concern for population levels. It's an illogical fear of foreigners, and a bizarre way of valuing a person's worth based on the country they were born in rather than the contributions they make to society.
Well done PAX, what were they thinking giving him a panel in the first place? Does he even talk about video games anymore?
They've cancelled his panel and taken the money. Where's the inconsistency?
Can't wait till the fragile white and right crowd start a campaign on how this is proof that they are real victims of oppression. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the back up plan if not the plan. Fuck everyone of his supporters, fuck those asking questions and fuck him and his punchable face.
Colin is a piece of shit and hasn't changed at all since the initial pushback for his sexist comment.
This was recent where after a homeless person threatens to kill his dog (horrible of course) he decides to attack all homeless people and essentially call them a useless part of society.
Also for those mentioning him being a libertarian, he has explicitly come out and stated he isn't and now considers himself a Conservative so not even trying to hide it anymore.
This was recent where after a homeless person threatens to kill his dog (horrible of course) he decides to attack all homeless people and essentially call them a useless part of society.
Also for those mentioning him being a libertarian, he has explicitly come out and stated he isn't and now considers himself a Conservative so not even trying to hide it anymore.
I don't get how you differentiate someone buying a ticket for the whole convention or for just a panel, and how you evidence the refund. If fans had tickets just for panels, getting annoyed at this would make sense but that's not the case here. Their TOS can be criticised but what would the action be? To sell tickets to just panels, maybe. So panels would have to be in a separate location so that ticket holders don't get the whole PAX grounds but just the panel grounds.
This is basically how it is at all sorts of events with multiple things to see/attend. Buy a ticket to a music festival for instance to see one act, act cancels and you wont get a refund unless the entire thing is cancelled. That's just how it is.
This is a no issue
This is a no issue
Regardless of what you think of Colin, he was there attending with his Playstation Podcast, not to push his politics onto the kids. It's a shitty act to cancel his panel without reason, even though we can take a good guess why, after he's already promoted it for weeks and convinced his audience to buy tickets to see his show. They should be entitled to a refund as it was cancelled by the organiser and not the performer. Yes the lineup is subject to change, and they've got small print to cover their arses, but it doesn't make it any less shitty.
At least give them a proper explanation. Seems a bit cowardly to take this stance and then avoid the question "Why?"
At least give them a proper explanation. Seems a bit cowardly to take this stance and then avoid the question "Why?"
Im sure PAX had a no refund policy right?
Other then a entire event being cancelled or massive issues on the day I cant think of many cases of live events offering refunds. If 1 band at a festival gets kicked you just move on.
But lol ar that "tired of my fanbase being diseespected" line.
Other then a entire event being cancelled or massive issues on the day I cant think of many cases of live events offering refunds. If 1 band at a festival gets kicked you just move on.
But lol ar that "tired of my fanbase being diseespected" line.
They should refund, but I can't really feel bad for fans of right wing extremist being parted from their cash.
Nah the scummy thing to do was to buy tickets to see Colin Moriarty.
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