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Oct 25, 2017
27,843
I know plenty of people of all cultures that still think you need to wash meat

People are largely ignorant of food safety if they've never worked a job where they had to know it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
42,700
Bruh, when she cut it open and I saw the pink, I knew that shit wasn't safe for consumption
Also you season the chicken AND season the coating for max taste. Just chucking seasoning into the oil...I mean, I know there is a thing such as hot chili oil, but you aren't doing that with large vats of oil cuz then most of it just stays in the oil....
 

Hrodulf

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,313
Sorry, video lost me over being supportive about "cleaning the chicken" and going on about "dirty flour". Paula Patton whoever the fuck that even is clearly doesn't know how to make fried chicken with her burnt oil/grease, but the person making the video is also wrong for thinking you need to clean the chicken during prep.
 

mjc

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,880
NO NO NO NO NO NO

You don't clean meat before you cook it wtf is going on. I know it's a tradition thing with some folks but guys, stop. You don't need to do it. At all.
 

rashbeep

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,464
Sorry, video lost me over being supportive about "cleaning the chicken" and going on about "dirty flour". Paula Patton whoever the fuck that even is clearly doesn't know how to make fried chicken with her burnt oil/grease, but the person making the video is also wrong for thinking you need to clean the chicken during prep.

Pretty much lol
 

DonNadie

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
880
We do this in Haiti, and my family in Mexico. I can't stop cleaning my meats even if I don't have to.

Yeap, in the island we definitely have to do it because we buy it straight from the butcher and there is a very good chance that a fly landed on it lol.
Here in USA we stop washing it after we learned that the risk of cross contamination is worst.
 
Oct 27, 2017
42,700
Yeap, in the island we definitely have to do it because we buy it straight from the butcher and there is a very good chance that a fly landed on it lol.
Here in USA we stop washing it after we learned that the risk of cross contamination is worst.
My parents are Nigerian and we've never cleaned the chicken beforehand. It's interesting how it differs across cultures
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,955
Yeh, I know you said ignore it but cleaning chicken just alweays seems weird to me.
 

SnazzyNaz

The Wise Ones
Member
Nov 11, 2019
1,874
I don't have a source other than working in a grocery store butcher shop. The store would order chicken from various local suppliers in the region and when we had to package them up for sale, they would come in cases full of that pinkish salt brine. I can tell you that alot of the chicken came from koch farms though.
Interesting, maybe I'll set up a taste test for myself. With chicken I always buy the cheapest option so maybe I've encountered the stuff and not realized.
 
Oct 25, 2017
27,843
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Yeap, in the island we definitely have to do it because we buy it straight from the butcher and there is a very good chance that a fly landed on it lol.
Here in USA we stop washing it after we learned that the risk of cross contamination is worst.

Is the fly still on it while you clean it?

Cooking it will kill whatever the fly could have dropped on the chicken....
 

IggyChooChoo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,230
I mean you can buy air chilled chicken or just pat it with a paper towel to minimize the chance of cross contamination(dry brining will also remove it). If you are insistent on "washing" I'd just kill two birds(and reduce the chance of cross contamination) by filling a mixing bowl with a salt brine and soaking the chicken for 30 minutes or up to overnight.

But I mean you do you, just pointing out that particular process(running chicken under a faucet) has some major drawbacks and doesn't really achieve anything that other methods with fewer safety risks have.
I'm probably still going to pour that brine down the sink. What else are we supposed to do with it? Sometimes there's like half a cup of it, anyway.
 
Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
I'm sorry but who is her mother??


Edit: Joyce Vanraden

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Legacy

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
15,704
Ay yo, I think Paula skipped a few steps. Is she really out here cleaning chicken with just a little cold water rinse? Also seasoning oil?

Lol I'm done. She needs to recheck that recipe!
 

PKrockin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,260
That was disgusting. If you're looking for some actual good cooking tips I recommend this channel.

 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,955
There is no one way to cook anything, I don't really like these kinds of threads. I enjoy my foods spicy, I have a cupbard full of pretty much every spice you can imagine. I make my own curry pastes in a pestle and mortor, I make everything from mild food to "nuclear" level spice, cook all my food from scratch.

Mocking anyone for not using the same spices as you is fucking weird. Watching Americans cook rewgularly makes me internally "wtf" at their choice of spices... often not making their own mixes, their own pastes, using a lot of pre mix/jar stuff with additives and extra sugar... but, whatever, if that's what you enjoy go for it.

No need to mock anyone for the way they cook, honestly.

People keep saying this but..... do y'all not clean while you cook?

You're not spreading anything with some prep work and cleaning as you go.
I just imagine people just slinging the chicken all over, dancing and shit.
Some of you really should look up how easily this stuff spreads. Washing your meat, even if you're very careful, can spread cross-contamination very easily and much further than you'd think. You cannot see it, that's the biggest issue.

Nothing to do with flinging it around.
 
Oct 27, 2017
10,660
Brine chicken, dredge in breading mix, dip in egg, dredge in mix, fry at 350 degrees for about 7 minutes per side , drain on wire rack, served promptly.
 

nullref

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,052
Yeh, I know you said ignore it but cleaning chicken just alweays seems weird to me.

It's pretty easy to understand as cultural practices held over from places or time periods that didn't have industrialized meat packing. If you just butchered the chicken in farmyard or open-air market or something, it might have all manner of detritus (blood, feathers, etc.) on the surface that you'd want to remove before cooking. These kinds of habits tend to stick around long after they've stopped being useful.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,955
It's pretty easy to understand as cultural practices held over from places or time periods that didn't have industrialized meat packing. If you just butchered the chicken in farmyard or open-air market or something, it might have all manner of detritus (blood, feathers, etc.) on the surface that you'd want to remove before cooking.
Holding on to outdated practises like that still makes it hard to understand for me, especially when there is so much readily available evidence showing how easy it is to cross contaminate.

If you actually live somewhere/buy specific meat where washing is necessary, fair enough, but otherwise it's just weird to me to keep doing it.

Feel free to, if it makes you feel better and you're careful about it, chances are you'll be absolutely fine.
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,119
It's one of those medium rare chicken.
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We can't post porn yet this filth goes unmodded? The mods grow weak.




*takes a deep breath *

Paula Patton is so hot that if she served me up pink fried chicken with a seasoned grease gravy I'd eat up the whole thing bones and all and so would you why are we even having this conversation?


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I believe its one of those things that is done in large part because of a long standing/cultural traditions in cooking, but I don't think there's any evidence that it actually accomplishes anything.

I am curious though the woman commenting on the video took exception with cleaning the chicken in just cold water, did she mean that you usually want to use warm/hot water, or was she implying using soap, because I've never heard of that before.

salt water is what we grew up cleaning chick with.
 

HStallion

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
62,262
This looks like someone who rarely if ever cooks trying to cook. That chicken was barely cooked let alone the actual prep.
 

nullref

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,052
Holding on to outdated practises like that still makes it hard to understand for me, especially when there is so much readily available evidence showing how easy it is to cross contaminate.

People don't always reexamine everything they've inherited from their parents or culture. I imagine most of us are guilty of that in some detail of our habits or another.
 

thomas_cale

Member
May 22, 2020
551
There is no one way to cook anything, I don't really like these kinds of threads. I enjoy my foods spicy, I have a cupbard full of pretty much every spice you can imagine. I make my own curry pastes in a pestle and mortor, I make everything from mild food to "nuclear" level spice, cook all my food from scratch.

Mocking anyone for not using the same spices as you is fucking weird. Watching Americans cook rewgularly makes me internally "wtf" at their choice of spices... often not making their own mixes, their own pastes, using a lot of pre mix/jar stuff with additives and extra sugar... but, whatever, if that's what you enjoy go for it.

No need to mock anyone for the way they cook, honestly.



Some of you really should look up how easily this stuff spreads. Washing your meat, even if you're very careful, can spread cross-contamination very easily and much further than you'd think. You cannot see it, that's the biggest issue.

Nothing to do with flinging it around.
Yeah if they do it on video which lends itself to people using it as a recipe and them using unsafe cooking methods it should be called out
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,955
People don't always reexamine everything they've inherited from their parents or culture. I imagine most of us are guilty of that in some detail of our lives or another.
I mean, maybe. I do my very best to avoid this, and if I'm shown something I'm doing for no reason that I've believed was necessary and I find evidence to show it's the case, I'll switch.

Sticking to it, just because it's what you have always done, is weird to me.

Yeah if they do it on video which lends itself to people using it as a recipe and them using unsafe cooking methods it should be called out
I was talking about the spices, not the cooking method itself. Obviously if you want to focus on something being undercooked then that's fair, especially with a meat like chicken.

People too often mock "lack of spice", imo. Tastes differ, that's perfectly okay.
 

R2RD

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Member
Nov 6, 2018
2,785
Yeap, in the island we definitely have to do it because we buy it straight from the butcher and there is a very good chance that a fly landed on it lol.
Here in USA we stop washing it after we learned that the risk of cross contamination is worst.
Yep, A lot of people still getting their meat from places like this one
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So washing the meat makes sense.
 

IggyChooChoo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,230
...are you talking about canned chicken? Half a cup of juices sounds ridiculous, even for one of those 7-10 pounds family trays.
No, like a bagged whole factory-farmed chicken from Tyson or Perdue. The kind cooked by fast food places, rotisserie chicken purveyors, and eaten by cheap poultry-seekers nationwide.


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I would imagine most people open them over the sink in the first place because they're so leaky, and then rinse them because that pink brine is pretty unappetizing.
 

OrangeNova

Member
Oct 30, 2017
12,651
Canada
Holy shit, nothing in the flour, low temp for the oil, shallow pan filled to the brim, seasonings dumped into the oil, not cooked long enough.

Like everything that could be terrible with that, was.

salt water is what we grew up cleaning chick with.
Salt water isn't going to clean anything off the meat though... If anything if you're dunking it in water with salt you're getting the lightest brine and spreading anything you're concerned about all over the meat.
 

IggyChooChoo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,230
It's pretty easy to understand as cultural practices held over from places or time periods that didn't have industrialized meat packing. If you just butchered the chicken in farmyard or open-air market or something, it might have all manner of detritus (blood, feathers, etc.) on the surface that you'd want to remove before cooking. These kinds of habits tend to stick around long after they've stopped being useful.
Plus the FDA guideline to not rinse chicken only dates back to 2005. We have wars older than that!
 

nullref

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,052
I mean, maybe. I do my very best to avoid this, and if I'm shown something I'm doing for no reason that I've believed was necessary and I find evidence to show it's the case, I'll switch.

That's my nature as well, but obviously people vary greatly in their openness to new ideas/information for all sorts of reasons.
 

Ashes of Dreams

Unshakable Resolve
Member
May 22, 2020
14,433
This person committed suicide due to relentless cyberbullying.
Where did you see that? I only see an article by 247headlines with no source.

This was the first I heard of this so I did some digging.
Put in spoiler tags since it's obviously a sensitive subject.

She did unfortunately commit suicide a few months after this post went viral. Her facebook confirms that and it's not hard to find.

However, the post about the chicken was not the cause. For one thing (and I'm sorry to ruin this for people who like reacting to it), the whole post was clearly a joke. Like most things THAT ridiculous, she wasn't actually eating raw chicken. So the post going viral and her freaking people out were surely the intended outcomes. It wasn't her only goofy post of that nature and she was making "it's not samon though" jokes to people mentioning salmonella.

She also made pretty consistent posts about having anxiety and depression, including before she made any joke chicken posts. And I did find someone who says he was her friend, responding to a post saying that she killed herself over this post, claiming that he talked to her the day before she did it and it was most certainly NOT over that post or the reaction to it.

I understand the desire to discourage pile ons and harassment campaigns and what have you. The impact these sorts of things have on people are massive and often ignored by the public just having a cheap laugh. But misinformation is also a serious problem online and we shouldn't just believe everything we read because then we end up using a woman's death to shame people for laughing at a joke said woman made.

As other have pointed out, there's also a huge difference between cyberbulling and reacting to a video of someone making some bad chicken. Content is put up on the internet to have people view and react to. Anyway this has been a pretty morbid rabbit hole for me to go down over a thread I wasn't expecting to do that so I'm going to go take a breather from the internet now.
 

BLEEN

Member
Oct 27, 2017
21,890
There is no one way to cook anything, I don't really like these kinds of threads. I enjoy my foods spicy, I have a cupbard full of pretty much every spice you can imagine. I make my own curry pastes in a pestle and mortor, I make everything from mild food to "nuclear" level spice, cook all my food from scratch.

Mocking anyone for not using the same spices as you is fucking weird. Watching Americans cook rewgularly makes me internally "wtf" at their choice of spices... often not making their own mixes, their own pastes, using a lot of pre mix/jar stuff with additives and extra sugar... but, whatever, if that's what you enjoy go for it.

No need to mock anyone for the way they cook, honestly.
It's soooo not the spices used. The entire technique is fucked pretty much from the get.

You can't defend whatever the hell that was. Objectively really. I went in with an open mind too.
 
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Royalan

Royalan

I can say DEI; you can't.
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Oct 24, 2017
11,960
There is no one way to cook anything, I don't really like these kinds of threads. I enjoy my foods spicy, I have a cupbard full of pretty much every spice you can imagine. I make my own curry pastes in a pestle and mortor, I make everything from mild food to "nuclear" level spice, cook all my food from scratch.

Mocking anyone for not using the same spices as you is fucking weird. Watching Americans cook rewgularly makes me internally "wtf" at their choice of spices... often not making their own mixes, their own pastes, using a lot of pre mix/jar stuff with additives and extra sugar... but, whatever, if that's what you enjoy go for it.

No need to mock anyone for the way they cook, honestly.



Some of you really should look up how easily this stuff spreads. Washing your meat, even if you're very careful, can spread cross-contamination very easily and much further than you'd think. You cannot see it, that's the biggest issue.

Nothing to do with flinging it around.

Did you watch the video?

Nobody is mocking the spices she used.

The spice choice is actually the most normal part of the video.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,955
It's soooo not the spices used. The entire technique is fucked from about 1 minute in.

You can't defend whatever the hell that way. Objectively really. I went in with an open mind too.
Thread is full of posts about spices, and the video itself focuses on the spices quite a lot. So yeh, it is a big part of it and it happens all the time in these kinds of threads.

Did you watch the video?

Nobody is mocking the spices she used.

The spice choice is actually the most normal part of the video.
Did you? It's literally in the video, wtf lol. Thread has plenty of posts about that too, and this is a super common thing on Era to see people mocking others for their lack of/choice of spices.
 

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,152
Thread is full of posts about spices, and the video itself focuses on the spices quite a lot. So yeh, it is a big part of it and it happens all the time in these kinds of threads.

its how she spiced it more than what spices she used. The woman doing commentary in the video even seems find with the seasoning used and then loses her mind when she pours it on the grease.
 

0ptimusPayne

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,750
Didn't even have to bother googling what her mama look like lmao.

Anyways, looking for the double tragedy when the commentator tells me she's uses dish soap to really get that chicken clean before cooking it in boiling hot grease 😂