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Patty Jenkins confirms Pedro Pascal as Maxwell Lord in Wonder Woman 1984
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Keep the dream alive, Patty
How Superman ruined what could have beenan amazing scene in Wonder Woman
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It's 4 am on the East coast and 1 in the west. Why post this now?
I'm taking a shit right now at 5am and I love waking up to some news before work.
I can't wait to see if they throw any twists about him from the comics at the viewer. So many to choose from with all the retcons.
Hehehahaha the thought of the rest of the world era waiting patiently to post when north america has woken up..
God that movie is such a pleasure.YALL SHOULD. AMERICA IS NUMBER 1!
I went out of my way to find that gif and depressed that Brendan frasier wasn't a much bigger star. He was so good
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I stand my belief that Frasier could have been a solid Superman 15 years ago
For the sake of the folks who aren't familiar with the labyrinthine clusterfuck that is superhero comic book continuities... (And no, I'm not a huge expert either, but I know the general gist of things in this case, I think.)
Basically, Max Lord is a guy with mind control powers. He was a hero at one point, but basically, the main storyline that caused him to become associated with Diana was Infinite Crisis - he plotted to wipe out all superhumans, and when Ted Kord (the second Blue Beetle, best known for being best buds with Booster Gold and basically the pair were 'those two guys' of the DC universe) found out and refused to join him, Lord brutally murdered him (yeah, poor Ted got done dirty). Wonder Woman later was forced to kill him in order to stop him from mind-controlling Superman. While this briefly caused a rift between her and both Superman and Batman, they do reconcile and the latter two recognize that she had no other choice in the matter (Lord himself, under the influence of the lasso of truth, told her the only way to stop his mind control was to kill him, and she didn't have the luxury of time).
Now, that shouldn't be that big of a deal, Diana is a warrior and not an uber-pacifist like Clark and Bruce, but it was still seen as a huge deal at the time, as, well, a major hero typically associated with the "heroes should not kill" trope deliberately killing a villain was still a big deal. And unfortunately, in some ways, big stuff like that in comics has a habit of leading to "inspiring" lesser writers - later writers, for a time, ended up missing the point of why she had to snap Lord's neck and ramped up her willingness to kill her enemies significantly for no particular reason.
But yeah, Max Lord is most certainly going to be the main villain for this movie, there's no other reason why you'd put him in a Wonder Woman film.
Basically, Max Lord is a guy with mind control powers. He was a hero at one point, but basically, the main storyline that caused him to become associated with Diana was Infinite Crisis - he plotted to wipe out all superhumans, and when Ted Kord (the second Blue Beetle, best known for being best buds with Booster Gold and basically the pair were 'those two guys' of the DC universe) found out and refused to join him, Lord brutally murdered him (yeah, poor Ted got done dirty). Wonder Woman later was forced to kill him in order to stop him from mind-controlling Superman. While this briefly caused a rift between her and both Superman and Batman, they do reconcile and the latter two recognize that she had no other choice in the matter (Lord himself, under the influence of the lasso of truth, told her the only way to stop his mind control was to kill him, and she didn't have the luxury of time).
Now, that shouldn't be that big of a deal, Diana is a warrior and not an uber-pacifist like Clark and Bruce, but it was still seen as a huge deal at the time, as, well, a major hero typically associated with the "heroes should not kill" trope deliberately killing a villain was still a big deal. And unfortunately, in some ways, big stuff like that in comics has a habit of leading to "inspiring" lesser writers - later writers, for a time, ended up missing the point of why she had to snap Lord's neck and ramped up her willingness to kill her enemies significantly for no particular reason.
But yeah, Max Lord is most certainly going to be the main villain for this movie, there's no other reason why you'd put him in a Wonder Woman film.
Hm, one of those vilans that i just kind stand for the wrong reasons, he is just insufferable and not entertaining.
Still, hopefully the movie will do something interesting with him. I just hope they won't pull an infinite crisis and depict WW as a moron who don't even try to explain herself for why she killed him.
Also, wasn't cheetah supposed to be in this movie? A bit worried they are just gonna have her as a starter villan with this announcement.
Still, hopefully the movie will do something interesting with him. I just hope they won't pull an infinite crisis and depict WW as a moron who don't even try to explain herself for why she killed him.
Also, wasn't cheetah supposed to be in this movie? A bit worried they are just gonna have her as a starter villan with this announcement.
Isnt that what everyone thought from the start but then something/someone came out and said it wasnt him
This movies so old I cant remember anymore.
This movies so old I cant remember anymore.
His traditional powers are a long way from what he is rumoured to have in WW84.
Never occurred to me but I love the idea...Supes is always played so frosty, it would have been awesome to capture some of the character's humor.
I'm not buying he's Maxwell Lord until I watch the film and see it officially confirmed.
Considering that his rumoured powers don't line up, the probability that Hades is involved in the film(See Steve being alive), and that Hades is by extension the Greek god of wealth I can see it being another "hiding in plain sight" scenario as Hades hides as a billionaire.
Considering that his rumoured powers don't line up, the probability that Hades is involved in the film(See Steve being alive), and that Hades is by extension the Greek god of wealth I can see it being another "hiding in plain sight" scenario as Hades hides as a billionaire.
I really don't think they can pull that same twist two movies in a row.
That's honestly not surprising. Mind control as a superpower is an inherently tricky (and potentially problematic) power to work with, and people likely still remember David Tennant's memorable performance as Kilgrave in Jessica Jones. I imagine WB would rather not want to look like they're ripping off Marvel in this case.
God i love that movie. The sunset crying scene is comedy gold.YALL SHOULD. AMERICA IS NUMBER 1!
Wait, is it confirmed that Steve is alive and it's not just some sort of flashbacks? Are they making him the Phantom Stranger or something?
Yes that's not what I mean. Don't want to go into possible spoiler territory but his rumoured powers are far more extensive and arcane. And a bit daft actually.
Like said rest of the world where the bulk of the money made by this film is going to be made.
Imagine if WW84 pays homage to the now classic Man of Steel / Rotten Tomatoes scene...
Anyway, WW84 should be fun :D (Only I wish Steve Trevor wasn't on this)
Anyway, WW84 should be fun :D (Only I wish Steve Trevor wasn't on this)
Keep the dream alive, Patty
You know it's not as shocking after Superman's already done it
God, it kinda sucks they're doing Max Lord in 1984, because him being in the present would be fucking great. But the DCEU is all mixed up so whatever I guess.
