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Patrick Klepek Reveals He Only Made $65K at Giant Bomb in SF [Up: Klepek responds, see threadmarks]
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I admit, this is the first time I've seen a thread backfire here where the OP triples down despite that.
Vancouver is basically the San Francisco of Canada. Toronto is New York.
Montreal is... Montreal.
Companies moved in during the first dotcom boom and hung on.
How about the IT guys for school corporations that run everything that allows teachers to do their jobs? They make massively less than the teachers, and embarrassingly less than their job field does outside of education.
Average teacher starting pay in the midwest is $48-60k.
Average school district IT position starting pay in the midwest is $30k
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Looks like 50% as much. SF is a weird market, I wouldn't necessarily take that as all costs of living were 50% less in 2010. And you can see from the chart that housing rose 30% over 2011-2014, so that doesn't excuse not giving Patrick any raises either.
The person you made the thread about has posted in your thread to correct, explain, and contradict the concerns of your OP....at this point, you're digging in deeper about someone you don't personally know, in a company you don't personally work for, wherein the person in question has said that your concerns aren't necessary. Kind of absurd, isn't it?
Yeah, but even then, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay people to take trips to SF from a adjecent state?
were not in the 00s, fast internet, instant messaging, video calls are tools that we have now.
for 100k you need to be a CEO or a high level politican in austria (member of parliament get a base salary of 125k€ p.a.) ,
and here where talking about a Games journalist.
How are the baristas, the cleaning personal, the bus drivers paid? That sounds ridiculous, and like a huge bubble that will burst.
You can't compare US and European salaries.
Quick google search : https://www.quora.com/How-come-sala...d-countries-for-an-equivalent-quality-of-life
It's like you need to get so much more in the US because you have to pay a lot by yourself.
This tweet should be threadmarked. OP clearly trying to stir up trouble by cherrypicking Patrick and GB. This tweet shows more context on the salary stuff.
Minimum wage in San Francisco is $15.59/hr. On July 1 that goes up to $16.07. That is equivalent to $31,180/yr and $32,140/yr.
If you work in San Francisco, and you're working full time, you're not making less than $30k/yr. Most baristas and other service folks will make more than min wage. City bus drivers start at around $48k/yr and the median salary is around $65-70k/yr, IIRC. A handful make over $250k/yr (via overtime).
If you take out the cost of housing, living in SF can easily be affordable. So basically, anyone who grew up here is going to be OK.
1) If you own a home (or your parents own a home and let you live there) - You won the life lottery in SF.
2) If you have a rent controlled apartment - You won second prize in the life lottery.
Otherwise, it's a matter of bunking up with roomies or living in the exurbs and commuting in on BART.
I really think it's also an elitist perception thing Among the companies. Like why have your company in philly or idk North Carolina when you can brag that your company is located in the most expensive city in the US etc
Well, I think there are a couple of misconceptions:
- As with NY, making less money generally means that you're living with roommates instead of living alone. This is mostly a lifestyle issue rather than a standard of living issue.
- If you're not making a ton of money, it's more likely you're not living within the geographic area that the outrageous cost of living is calculated for. For instance, if you're making $65k you might be living in Oakland or Daly City rather than SF proper.
That said, I'm always surprised that these companies choose to locate themselves in SF/NYC. Especially something niche like video games. You can do this anywhere, especially these days. I always wondered why these companies didn't try to be like Game Informer.
Ya this all reminds me of the weirdness I feel when someone says "This is what I made from a 1 million view video"
And my brain explodes. It's like...wtf. Would KILL for that. But orgs are different, things just all over are different. Most importantly many times is those living expenses in some places damn.
It's like middle class. My friend lives in San Jose and makes around 100k and he and his wife have a roommate because they could barely afford an apartment on their own.
At the time, it was for access to most publishers/developers. These days I'm less sure.
I miss the early days of GB where they would just make weird things like this.
The site kinda feels like a shadow of what made me originally love it now. The BLLSL, the Endurance Runs, everyone in the same room for the podcast, the Nintendownload Xpress, etc. The creative effort they'd put into their GOTY videos. Even just random segments featuring the people from Comic Vine and Tested, and the tech guys like Dave and Sean.
Decline kinda felt like it started with Ryan Davis passed, and accelerated when they split into GB and GB East.
Finally let my Premium sub lapse this year, after having been a member since the first day the site launched, and a premium sub since whenever they first offered that.
... lmao that gif was from the intro for a series they started in late 2018. What are you even on about?
Isn't that footage from the video they did years ago with Jeff riding the Tony Hawk's Ride board?
Nope.
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I like living close enough to visit for the weekend then get the hell out before I go broke lol.
Nope.
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Huh, I guess they did an homage to it then. There was a video they did ages ago (maybe over a decade at this point), that was a whole skit with Jeff green-screened riding that thing.
What prompted him to share his pay like that, anyways?
Honestly impressed that he's making six figures writing about video games. Good for him.
Honestly impressed that he's making six figures writing about video games. Good for him.
Due to the Bon Appetit pay disparity fallout, media people are publicly sharing their salaries on Twitter
What a crazy time for "The Man". Who would have that that COVID-19 would have such second-order effects? Patrick Klepek seems to have started this after the BA stuff, where a well loved staffer wasn't getting paid for video appearances and only made 60k per year. Wage transparency is one of...
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a lot of people from various industries have been posting their incomes over the years on twitter
Things must be different in the gaming media. The number one rule of any job I've had is don't discuss salaries with your peers. Since I've been friends with several of them on social media over the years, sharing that kind of info would have gotten me in trouble. It's probably to avoid people asking why someone makes more than they do, but it is what it is. I keep my lips sealed and keep my job.Due to the Bon Appetit pay disparity fallout, media people are publicly sharing their salaries on Twitter
What a crazy time for "The Man". Who would have that that COVID-19 would have such second-order effects? Patrick Klepek seems to have started this after the BA stuff, where a well loved staffer wasn't getting paid for video appearances and only made 60k per year. Wage transparency is one of...
a lot of people from various industries have been posting their incomes over the years on twitter
that's part of the reason people are speaking out, it's a pretty bullshit thing for employers to dangle punishment over the heads of their employees, all to prevent people seeing pay inequality at a company (or in an industry)
it's illegal to forbid disclosing your own salary, at least in the states, and part of what's happening in those tweets is people trying to subvert a counterproductive stigma that serves only to perpetuate various inequalities
Employers do it entirely so they retain leverage.
It's also illegal to stop you, so you don't need to play their game.
New Hampshire (where I live) is an "at will" employment state so you can be fired for any reason. My wife got fired from her job for the excuse of "job performance" years ago, but it was because there was a clique and she didn't fit in with them. She wasn't the only one it's happened to at that place.
I wouldn't share my salary either judging by some of the reactions which seem jealous, petty, or implying that Patrick doesn't deserve what he's making just because it's games journalism. But also hiding salary information is just a way for executive to keep it lower for everyone on purpose.
Good on Patrick for making what he's making and for putting this information out there.
Good on Patrick for making what he's making and for putting this information out there.
I'm a deputy editor for a fairly large publication (not gaming related) and can say it's FUCKING HARD to get a good salary.
It's important for folks who make the higher end of salaries to disclose them because it helps dispel the notion there isn't money available to others. If the individuals making less are the only ones disclosing their salaries it only reinforces the power of employers.
I don't know if this is supposed to be a joke or not, but this was information freely offered. A lot of games journalists are doing it on Twitter now.
EDIT: And yeah, see above from the person who this very thread is about lol