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Paper Mario: The Origami King | Review Thread
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Oh, I agree that both are silly. But as we have seen in the previous Paper Mario threads, Paper Mario fans tend to have unified beliefs, namely TTYD is an all-time classic that is beyond reproach, and Sticker Star is an abomination.
I would have said higher before the previews last week or the week before but now I'm going with 80-84.
I don't think it's quite that simple. At the end of the day, whatever the specific aspects of the game are, it's got to come together to be a compelling a well designed experience. If it's not, then it doesn't matter whether the game is an RPG or not, it'll still be a lacking experience.
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Thanks to all for the answers. I appreciate it. I understand a lot better after reading through the comments.
Haha fair enough. I'm more of a neutral observer for Paper Mario games. I've never really been too hot or cold on them ... basically I've just always wanted more SMRPG in my life.
Their average metascore is a 76. You're seeing things that aren't there.
I was not absolutely sure I'd get it but was expecting last week's stream to fully convince me I wanted this. After watching it, my opinion actually changed for the worse, but if reviews are good and impressions are generally very positive, I might still get it down the line. I haven't played a Paper Mario in ages, but that boss fight was very boring to watch, I don't think playing it would make it that much better.
You have too much faith my friend, some people seem like they can only explain their points of view in absolute extremes, nothing in between.
83 is my guess, significant improvement over the last two games and a good game on its own, but still not quite where the series once was.
"this game managed to achieve world crease with its fanbase"
But how you judge a game depends on the genre.
If for example I'm playing Uncharted 4 I can't say "It has little variety of builds available" or "Poor implementation of player decisions in the story".
The game has combat. It's fully fair to criticize that combat for failing to incentivize the player to take part in it.
Sure, I don't disagree. Like I said, the specifics of the game are going to be different from game to game, but regardless of what those are, those specific components have to work together to form a unified, well-designed experience. I think we'd agree that you can have a unified, well-designed experience with or without a "variety of builds" or "player decisions in the story".
Yes, but if you were convinced that Uncharted 4 should be a looter shooter (for some reason) and played Uncharted 4, you would be unable to see the great game that is because you would always be thinking "Where's my legendary shotgun?".
I feel like most all review threads for big games turn into a shitshow eventually unfortunately.
Uhh, what the hell is this lmao. There's not such thing as a review bias unless it's from a fan site, and most of the time not even then.
81.
I'm not sure if this will be a day-one purchase for me, but it's definitely something I'm eager to play once I get gifted an eshop gift card, or if it goes on sale in the future.
I'm not sure if this will be a day-one purchase for me, but it's definitely something I'm eager to play once I get gifted an eshop gift card, or if it goes on sale in the future.
Par for the course of review threads lol. Due to this being a Paper Mario that retains its controversial elements, it may or may not be one of the worse ones.
Now that I don't agree with.
A large part of the audience's role in art (regardless of the medium - games, movies, books, etc.) is their understanding of the work. And the thing about bold and original art is that it challenges the audience's understanding, it makes them confront their understand and force them to learn and expand their understanding of what the art is. That dramatic experience of coming to understand a work is a large part of what makes it so compelling.
Now, for this specific example, if someone were to go into this game understanding it to be an RPG (because maybe they haven't played a Paper Mario game since TTYD, and maybe they've avoided all the marketing or reviews for this game), and then this game isn't an RPG, then the game has to try to make its case for why it's not an RPG. Why did the devs think that the game would be better without RPG elements? And even then, maybe the audience walks away from the game without a satisfying answer to that, without understanding why this game is the way it is and not the way they expected it to be , at which point the audience might just chalk it up to well, the artist (in this case the devs) are bad, or the game is just bad, etc. Imo that's sort of just like the nature of the whole art-artist-audience relationship though.
Man this is probably gonna be seen as controversial, but after Bug Fables I'm looking forward to a nice little romp with a cool world and some good dialogue. Bug fables is a good game, but the writing never connected with me. The world was cool, but never reached Paper Mario heights. I did like the combat system, but it got pretty repetitive. For an indie, the game is fantastic. However, im looking forward to quick fights with the new puzzle system and to just soak in a Paper Mario world.
Its a Mario game. It'll be over 8. Its look fun but wish this series would return to its roots of TTYD.
This is the game I'm most interested to see reviews for. Does anyone know if the writing in this one is a step up from Color Splash? The main thing I loved TTYD and SPM for were the writing not the RPG mechanics or the gameplay. I still think about this joke from SPM all the time, and it gets me every time:
Oh, it's going to be a real shitstorm wether the game turns out to be good or not.
To be 100% honest I was being facetious. I still think it'll be 7-8s but definitely on the game's own merits. I mean the fact that Nintendo games, even their bad ones, are polished to hell and back earns them a good score right there. The main complaints typically come from content (or lack thereof) or gameplay gimmicks.
The last two Paper Mario games were in the 70s so I'm not sure why would automatically be the case.
Instead of dogpiling you, I'm gonna ask you a question- which of their games do you believe are rated higher than what they should be?
