How in the hell are people legitimately acting like character design is meaningless and doesn't add to the characterization of a character in this thread? Some of y'all are nuts.
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Paper Mario: The Origami King announced for July 17 (RPG battles confirmed)
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For those bummed about the partner designs, would it be an acceptable compromise if it turned out that you can dress the up or customize them?
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A bit mixed on this one. It looks good, it looks fun, it doesn't look like SS/CS but it isn't really the rumoured return to form either from what we saw in the trailer. The ring-based system looks interesting, but seeme like there is no exp meter and no partners? Or the cover suggests partners but still with the generic designs from the last games. Story with the Origami Killer gives me a bit of hope, but could just end up beeing the same characters like always just in Origami form, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam did the same with paper characters.
So will be interesting I guess. I liked Super Paper Mario and Color Splash is a good game too, I only really dislike Sticker Star. But man a Paper Mario 3 would have been a megaton announcement for me, I really love the first 2 games. And with AlphaDream and maybe Mario & Luigi dead, this would have been a perfect time to return to the roots. If this turns out to be a fine game, but again no RPG, I hope they give us at least a Paper Mario 2 remaster.
A bit mixed on this one. It looks good, it looks fun, it doesn't look like SS/CS but it isn't really the rumoured return to form either from what we saw in the trailer. The ring-based system looks interesting, but seeme like there is no exp meter and no partners? Or the cover suggests partners but still with the generic designs from the last games. Story with the Origami Killer gives me a bit of hope, but could just end up beeing the same characters like always just in Origami form, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam did the same with paper characters.
So will be interesting I guess. I liked Super Paper Mario and Color Splash is a good game too, I only really dislike Sticker Star. But man a Paper Mario 3 would have been a megaton announcement for me, I really love the first 2 games. And with AlphaDream and maybe Mario & Luigi dead, this would have been a perfect time to return to the roots. If this turns out to be a fine game, but again no RPG, I hope they give us at least a Paper Mario 2 remaster.
No. I'm just hoping the writing is great and they're really individuals despite being generic.
Exactly. A lot of people here confused by the reaction should understand this has happened twice before. Literally down to the responses of "we haven't seen much wait for more". The same warning signs are there, which is why people are already...sceptical.
Personally I do hope when this game releases that it turns out to be genuinely good, but any Paper Mario fan knows at this stage not to hold their breath anymore.
That is quite the hot take. I've been playing through Super Paper Mario the past few days for the very first time and I don't see the comparison at all.
Super Paper Mario has a boatload of original character designs and unusual settings, for a start. And no turn-based battles. And even less paper references than TTYD. Plus the whole 2D-3D flip mechanic (which Color Splash has funnily enough).
To be fair, SS and CS didn't even have a new villain. I'm already really happy this aspect was changed for TOK. Especially since his sister is your sidekick. Could be an interesting story to tell there.
One of my biggest issues with Sticker Star and Color Splash that people aren't really talking about was the strategy for boss fights. Those games had key "stickers "or "objects" that were needed for boss fights. Without them, the fights were mostly unwinnable. With them, the fights were cakewalks. Really ruined a core part of the game's challenge.
I'll say it for the 20th time in this thread: you make a valid point, but you forget this game was in development well before Alphadream went bankrupt
The only thing that's weird to see is your flood of comments in this thread
No-one (reasonable) is saying that it doesn't add characterisation, just that's it not the only thing that helps to do that.
I definitely do not want another Sticker Star, but I refuse to be pessimistic about this. This could very well be a new and exciting addition to the franchise and be just as good as TTYD without looking like a clone of it. But we're in the Schrodinger's Cat phase of the game. It could be anything. So we all need to take a chill pill and see how it plays out before writing it off so easily.
I mean, Color Splash did not sell well and the vitriol against Sticker Star is well known. I seriously doubt they'll make pains to recreate aspects of those games again. Just my hunch.
I mean, Color Splash did not sell well and the vitriol against Sticker Star is well known. I seriously doubt they'll make pains to recreate aspects of those games again. Just my hunch.
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I don't know. I personally found a lot of generic NPCs in my RPGs more interesting than my unique looking party members.
And making generic NPC characters interesting is part of what I like about MMOs.
While unique designs go a long way in establishing character (and I would prefer them), I would at least compromise with the partners having a name and great, unique personality represented in thier dialogue to set them apart.
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Did the mods changed the title? Were has it been confirmed the game has rpg battles, because that trailer still looks very bad in that regard.
Im waiting for the reviews on this one, fool me twice... fuck color splash.
Now i want to play with a top hat koopa that is call Mistah Koop or something.
Im waiting for the reviews on this one, fool me twice... fuck color splash.
You joke buy its sad that it clearly is better, and those changes are super simple.Better?
Now i want to play with a top hat koopa that is call Mistah Koop or something.
Um, I'm being kinda conservative on this game too, but there's a lot of things in Origami King that's being glossed over here. Not interested in the juxtaposition of paper style and origami style? It looks like some Bowser minions have turned and some have not. There are also some unique NPCs as well. There's ship sailing with sea chart, fighter paper airplanes, giant paper mache Goombas, and driving around in a boot dune buggy type vehicle.
I'm going to remain uncautiously pessimistic. Paper Mario ain't shit these days. Kind of like the opposite of a :podcast game'. I could maybe see myself playing Color Splash for the music and humor but only if I'm also playing a game that's actually fun and interesting to play, at the same time
Such a great departure for the two-three year cycles from other studios...
If they were going to all of the trouble to make costumes, why not just give them original designs in the first place? I can't see it happening.
To be fair, the majority of people attacking people who are not into this game are kind of like that. Like, why defend a corporate entity supergiant like Nintendo? The fact that people enjoy it is fine, but when they attack people are are criticizing or not feeling the direction the games are taking, that's just a big problem.
so the paper Mario fan base has unlike the sonic fan base been fairly United and specific in their desire and that meant nothing
so yeah I give up
so yeah I give up
That's what I'm hoping largely changes. You didn't have progression systems that refined skills for boss fights. Instead, you had to obtain a McGuffin item to defeat a boss.
It was largely unsatisfying in execution.
Keep watching the trailer over and over and while I have some concerns, I'm fucking in man, this looks too good. Pre-ordered.
No no, you see, when I think about a seasoned admiral bob omb I think of this
You know, not this one
Totally the same thing to me. Absolutely meaningless distinction. No character design needed.
Lol.
Yeah, I'm torn between getting Xenoblade soon or waiting for reviews of this.
Having mulled it over a bit, as long as attacks aren't an expendable resource (and don't design bosses around one-use battle items) then I can't say I entirely dislike the potentiality of a lack in traditional leveling system or a more minimal incentive to doing battles. The problem with the previous games wasn't so much that there was no point in doing the battles, as much as you were actively discouraged from doing the battles as they're a total resource drain. If a battle system is fun enough then there's something to be said about doing the battles just because the systems are enjoyable and fun to do. I dunno how they're treating those power ups yet, but the key here is to make battles not only fun but also not something that you're worse off for engaging in. Not to invite any direct comparisons as I haven't played the game but I've been told that Chrono Cross was a game that didn't feature a traditional leveling system and it handle it pretty well for the most of the part.
I'm not particularly married to the old-school Paper Mario's combat systems because most of the fun I derived from those games was from gaming the badge system and doing the boss battles. In most of every scenario though I can't say the battles themselves were ever my favorite part of the games with the exception of Glitzville, which even that was down purely to the framing and story of the chapter. A lot of battles in Paper Mario quickly got rather tedious and most of the fun about the combat was the overhead stuff you did outside of the action (multiple chapters like TTYD chapter 4 were just terrible about combat encounters).
I think the combat system they have here has the potential to do well, especially since the battlefield rotation adds a strategic layer, especially if enemies and bosses have unique attacks or gimmicks. There's a lot of potential here to make interesting mechanics that don't revolve around one-use item like the limited scope of Color Splash/Sticker Star was.
I'm not particularly married to the old-school Paper Mario's combat systems because most of the fun I derived from those games was from gaming the badge system and doing the boss battles. In most of every scenario though I can't say the battles themselves were ever my favorite part of the games with the exception of Glitzville, which even that was down purely to the framing and story of the chapter. A lot of battles in Paper Mario quickly got rather tedious and most of the fun about the combat was the overhead stuff you did outside of the action (multiple chapters like TTYD chapter 4 were just terrible about combat encounters).
I think the combat system they have here has the potential to do well, especially since the battlefield rotation adds a strategic layer, especially if enemies and bosses have unique attacks or gimmicks. There's a lot of potential here to make interesting mechanics that don't revolve around one-use item like the limited scope of Color Splash/Sticker Star was.
Emily leaked this game months ago, or rather she leaked its existence (a few people did actually)
The partners being generic members of their species design wise does suck, and I'm not gonna get super excited about the battle system until we see EXP and some sort of badge like system, but how can I not be excited for the game as a whole when we're teaming up with Bowser and his minions? And after Color Splash I'm sure the level design and scenarios you are put in will be great. I can't wait to see what that snifit town is all about.