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Paper Mario: The Origami King announced for July 17 (RPG battles confirmed)
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Better?
... You joke, but I'd totally prefer this quick mock up over them all having the generic mario designs.
Character design goes a long way in telling a character's story.
If you were 13 when Paper Mario: TTYD came out then you'd be 29 now. I know that's still 'relatively' young in the grand scheme of things but I'd definitely say that's "well into adulthood." Especially when we're talking about a game in a franchise literally aimed at children and young teens above all other age groups.
Viewing it as a complete write-off when it's not exactly what you wanted is wrong to me, because it doesn't give the game a chance. You don't have to buy it, of course, but
As for whether people are attempting to shame others, I think that is a matter of perspective. As someone who is looking forward to this it's definitely disheartening feeling like I'm looking forward to a 'trash' game simply because other people's expectations weren't 100% met. Whilst of course "trash" is subjective many people definitely do move into 'this is objectively bad' territory which directly implies that people who like it, or even people who are open it, are 'liking' trash. There's also the feeling that the only "true fans" of Paper Mario are people who want 64 and TTYD (that's explicit in a few posts), and I think the issue with that is obvious. Whilst neither of those are explicit 'shaming', I think that since you're not coming from a position of being one who 'likes it' I don't think you're in a position to say that "not one person" is attempting to shame others
Well said. I agree. It was incredibly enjoyable and imaginative. Great OST, too.
look how bare bones this so called battle is:
you have coins, (preposterously high) HP, maybe crowds, and a selected move indicator and that's it...
all the warning signs are there that I'm not gonna like this thing and this time around i will heed those warning signs.
you have coins, (preposterously high) HP, maybe crowds, and a selected move indicator and that's it...
all the warning signs are there that I'm not gonna like this thing and this time around i will heed those warning signs.
It's not like they're all winners, but if you don't understand how having distinct looking partners is better than them being generic mobs idk what to say
It's not superficial when there's actual individualities and characterizations that go along with them. That's why we love the old crews and not Goomba #1,345,652.
Yeah I don't agree.
The battle system looks new and pretty cool, we've seen nothing about the characters other than what some of them look like (oh no the Shy Guy isn't purple with cool glasses so he must be a shit/unoriginal character), and what about the story did that trailer tell us?
Right, because that trailer was long enough to display the fact that none of the new characters have individuality and good characterization. Fuck, it didn't even show us all the new characters - it was 2 minutes long.
Having more unique character designs helps separate personalities and make characters stand out. That's not a bad thing. I like koopa with hat :P
But yes, Paper Mario fans are mad weird, no lie there.
eh, the PR plot summary isn't very interesting. Seems enemy comes and does thing the World/Peach, and you have to fix it with help of special ally.
At least Bowser isn't the badguy....(although if written well and actually interacting with the story and not being ignored until the end game, Bowser being the badguy isn't that bad lol)
but the plots of mario games usually aren't great outside of SPM, so that's not a huge issue for origami king
It's the character interactions and worlds along the way that make the "plots" good.
I unironically love that blue bob-omb in a party hatBetter?
It didn't, you got more resources for engaging enemies at the end of levels
I see we've reached the point where we're not understanding why someone would prefer a character like Goombario or Goombella over a generic Goomba, or Bobbery or Bombette over a generic Bob-omb.
Really, the smart thing to do if they don't want to slap a hat on a goomba and call it a day, they should maybe just have Mario start teaming up with existing unique characters like bosses and mini-bosses.
At least this game makes it seem like Bowser and Bowser Jr. might be partners.
At least this game makes it seem like Bowser and Bowser Jr. might be partners.
Generic Mario enemies being your partners would be like Captain Phasma in Star Wars wearing generic Stormtrooper armor or the likes of the Deku Princess, Darmani, and Zora band in Majora's Mask sharing the exact same character models as the rest of their respective species. Except worse because these dudes are in your RPG party. A better example would be a generic SOLDIER joining your party in FFVII and his name is just SOLDIER (I mean I guess that's technically true for 5 minutes but still).
For what it's worth though they can make it work in Origami King if they really lean into the weird alien invasion/body snatcher angle. In that case it's beneficial to have the characters resemble their creepy counterparts.
For what it's worth though they can make it work in Origami King if they really lean into the weird alien invasion/body snatcher angle. In that case it's beneficial to have the characters resemble their creepy counterparts.
Hope they've got the same composer team as last time, Colour Splash Colour SLAPS
In fact I still remember not having this game on my radar at all until Nabbit shared a pre-release drop of Sunglow Ridge's music on me
Yesssss hopefully Nintendo pulls a Color Splash and does an accidental early unlock again. I was just thinking about Sunglow Ridge a few mins ago and now I'm thinking of the great tunes for Cherry Lake and Vortex Island. I gotta listen to the whole OST again. And the OST for Sticker Star with its sublime jazziness.
It's maddening.
It was easily one of the most charming parts of the first two games.
Because it was the Mario franchise that used side characters in any meaningful way. And then it wasn't.
The title is a bit misleading and maybe should get a mod edit. It seems like most agree that the modern card-and-coin based combat with no FP is still the situation based on this clip:
At best, it is still up in the air, but it really looks like its confirmed to be the SS/CS style
I don't think the title means anything. Experience/levels are not confirmed as far as I can tell. Looks like your HP changes throughout the game, potentially?
This looks amazing. I'm in.
Color splash ultimately turned out to be more of a chore for me towards the end. Gave up at the final boss because it just wasn't fun anymore.
Didn't like the fact that attacks were usable cards that could run out so I'm hoping this is more ability focused.
Color splash ultimately turned out to be more of a chore for me towards the end. Gave up at the final boss because it just wasn't fun anymore.
Didn't like the fact that attacks were usable cards that could run out so I'm hoping this is more ability focused.
Yeah, it really sucks that they don't do fun stuff like that anymore. My only deal is that it's silly to singularly blame Miyamoto for it.
The translation of the battle UI screenshot suggests the exact opposite, that Mario has a set of defined "weapons" that are in a separate tab from "items". So card/sticker combat is gone.
So who was the joker who was spreading the "return to its roots" rumor? I wanna slap 'em.
Basically all we got is:
-Bowser isn't the villain
-some (seemingly temporary) generic enemy partners follow you on the overworld only, are not present in battles.
...and that's it?
Basically all we got is:
-Bowser isn't the villain
-some (seemingly temporary) generic enemy partners follow you on the overworld only, are not present in battles.
...and that's it?
I'm thinking the higher HP and damage numbers make it easier to do obvious progression with less complicated systems (no levels, badges, partners, etc...). Just make number go up up up and you don't need to account for too much else.
To be honest, I didn't like half the partners in Paper Mario. Outside of some of their design, they were pretty forgettable.
Weird for liking the first two games, but then not liking the ones that aren't like those?
Imo that turn based battle system look cool and different imo, happy to give it a try. And there's an audience in the bleachers too!
I'm gonna need to see a lot more about the combat before I'm convinced. Nothing here indicates RPG combat in terms of XP & leveling so not sure about the title. There's increased HP over time looks like but not seeing much else about how you actually progress & get stronger over time.
Anything that indicates battles aren't near-pointless to get tied up in would be nice to see.
Anything that indicates battles aren't near-pointless to get tied up in would be nice to see.
Is that a fair comparison when we've seen the entirety of what Majora's Mask has to offer while we've only seen 2 minutes of what this game has to offer?
