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Paper Mario: The Origami King announced for July 17 (RPG battles confirmed)
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It can definitely be good.
The trailer was a great trailer.
The issue is this isn't a new IP. We've done this before.
in 2012, we saw more pre-release footage of Sticker Star and our eyebrows got crooked. The previews showed consumable items, no partners, Bowser wasn't talking for some reason, people posed questions about what the point of battles were, THING cards, etc. But other people said not to complain before the game is out, it's an RPG after SPM, it looks great, etc. Well, we were right.
We did it in 2016, we saw early footage, no damage numbers, no exp shown, no badges, THING cards, still no partners, weird paint system, Level Select menu. People said not to condemn a game before it's out and we don't know everything yet. it was said has great music, presentation, battle card system looks interesting this time, etc. But we were right again
in 2020, this new game looks good, seems to fix a few things. But even from a 2 minute trailer and PR there are warning signs in regards to battles, characters, and story. Already.
The could be good, but my personal guess is that it'll be somewhat above mediocre. And that the franchise veteran's initial concerns will turn out to be true again, as it has in the past. shrug, we'll see.
I was upset by a lot of the decisions made around Pokémon SwSh, even though I ultimately liked the game.
I'm probably gonna buy this and play it day 1, so no, I'm not treating it as a "complete write-off". As I just said, it looks cool - something Sticker Star didn't -, even though it's not what I wanted.
There's nothing wrong with viewing it as a complete write-off, though, if you came in expecting A and ended up getting B. That's each person's prerogative.
Not one person who disliked the announcement in this thread is attempting to shame those who liked it. The opposite is not true.
lol I know it's not what you meant but this looks like you made the title and were so frustrated you forgot you were on a computer
Better?
Unironically, yes. Now they need names that aren't just their race. We've saved the franchise.
Bob-oom is the life of the party am i rite
Oh damn. Didn't realize it was a third party that made those games. They were really good. Oh well. I guess that series is dead. :(
C'mon Paper Mario! Bring back those RPG elements!
I can't believe you just fixed Paper MarioBetter?
...but give me that Spike
It doesn't look great?... I loved thousand year door and would like a remaster of it. Didnt like the artstyle of this, didnt see any interesting characters or environments that jumped out at me. The origami artstyle makes the other characters look really ugly.
but if its a true RPG and does have interesting companions, then I'll buy day one. Its weird being underwhelmed for a series that I love, I dont even hate it...just a feeling of I hope its good.
but if its a true RPG and does have interesting companions, then I'll buy day one. Its weird being underwhelmed for a series that I love, I dont even hate it...just a feeling of I hope its good.
As others in this thread have said, there's no FP, no badges, no partners in battles, partners are generic enemies, etc. It's not hard to see that a lot of things tons of fans DO want in Paper Mario (that were in the first two games) aren't present in this game.
Possibly a Game Over. Super Paper Mario lets you refuse to help Merlon at the very start of the game, and if you confirm you're not interested in going on a quest the game ends.
Wow, yes, these look like characters that might have interesting stories and now I want to learn about why they look the way they do.Better?
Better?
I mean, yeah? The character issue isn't a hard fix if Nintendo bothered with it.
I generally agree with what you're saying but what about "some of us don't accept mediocrity" guy?
I do wonder what the size of the center of the venn diagram is for "people attacking pokemon fans for being disappointed by Sw/Sh not being what they wanted" and "people attacking a newly announced paper mario game for not being what they wanted" on this forum is
So the B button is run. X seems to be hint and I think Y is help/aid.
So. I guess the B button is for beginning your turn with Mario. What about the Y and X buttons tho.
I mean we can kinda actually see some characterization in their designs there instead of:Better?
"Is a Bob-omb."
"Is a Goomba."
"Is a Koopa."
Character design is actually important!
yeah, not feeling the artstyle at times.
It's doing a bit much
It looks like something out of a 2000s flash game.Better?
That's what makes it so dumb tbh. Sure, it's a design decision but I just see it as an unforced error.
I'm taking a shot every time someone translates those three buttons and I'm getting absolutely hammered
I'll die on the hill that Color Splash is a flawed but still very enjoyable game. The individual scenario writing and humor is on par with TTYD or SPM (the dimension jumping pirate adventure and groundhogs day loop haunted mansion being standouts), and Huey was a great partner character. As a package it's not the pure brilliance of the first three, but I still had a really good time with it.
Partners and npcs are generic-looking, which suggests they will be generic characters too, in spite of the unique location design. Color Splash tried to dodge that issue by going heavy on meta-jokes, but they can only do that so many times.
He specifically said to not make stuff that didn't already exist in the Mushroom Kingdom, and he did so in the context of all the crazy new stuff that had been in Super Paper Mario not being well received in the club nintendo surveys.
There's nothing in what he said that disallowed them from putting a hat on a goomba and saying its a new friend.
They're too shy to be in the main games outside of their one time appearance in Mario Bros 2 (international).
Eh, the partner looks are a shame but I don't think we should jump the gun. The description focuses on the fact that they have unique personalities and that you can "laugh, cry and grow with them" or whatever.
I'll join you on that hill.
I'm hoping Origami is even better.
I mean character design goes a long way. You can't seriously tell me that Bobbery and Goombella having unique looks doesn't add to their character.
Yes, unique character design is better than generic, it's not hard or wrong to say that.
Lmao.Better?
If nothing else this sort of points out how people are getting really upset over something really superficial.
I know it sounds completely ridiculous but that's part of the reason 64 and Thousand are so beloved. The partner characters were charming as hell. They all had their schtick and stories to tell. A generic koopa isn't as cool as one with a scarf.
I can't believe people prefer new unique characters as their RPG party members over generic cookie-cutter ones. What wierdos.
Sticker Star punished you for engaging in the standard combat.