He said The Elder Scrolls VI will be out this year. So, no, it's not just Nintendo.
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Pachter: Nintendo Will Release Handheld-Only Switch Model In 2019; PS4, Xbox One To Receive Price Cuts
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He said The Elder Scrolls VI will be out this year. So, no, it's not just Nintendo.
Are you seriously suggesting that the MSRP is equivalent to manufacturing costs that Nintendo would pay to develop these products you mentioned?
Because that is absolutely absurd
Makes Sense, Personally I love what the switch does but I know a lot of people that are only interested in the handheld or docked portion of the switch.
They could cut the cost by a good 50$ by not including the dock and the joycon grip then sell those things to folks for more than that.
I also think a Docked only switch should be something they consider producing only, but that could get a bit trickier because that would be a totally seperate sku,
They could cut the cost by a good 50$ by not including the dock and the joycon grip then sell those things to folks for more than that.
I also think a Docked only switch should be something they consider producing only, but that could get a bit trickier because that would be a totally seperate sku,
I think it's possible that Nintendo would release a home console only Switch, since that would significantly cut down on costs, but I very much doubt ripping out the parts of the Switch that let it dock to the TV would be at all worth it. (Though the idea some people have been tossing around of making it more powerful would be legitimately suicidal)
Then what's the point of calling it Switch?
The whole concept behind the name Switch is that it is an home console that you can take with you.
I think he read Furukawa's interview and like many did, he already draw the conclusions "oh he is saying that because Nintendo is leaving the home console space" but there are no indications of that happening.
Pachter does have a point when he talks about selling a cheaper hardware, but i think you can also do that by releasing a newer model and lowering the price of the current Switch.
The whole concept behind the name Switch is that it is an home console that you can take with you.
I think he read Furukawa's interview and like many did, he already draw the conclusions "oh he is saying that because Nintendo is leaving the home console space" but there are no indications of that happening.
Pachter does have a point when he talks about selling a cheaper hardware, but i think you can also do that by releasing a newer model and lowering the price of the current Switch.
Yeah that way they can just sell people the dock later if they want to upgrade. While they cut out the dock, HDMI cable, and joycon grip, then keep the costs of the higher priced SKU just under what it would cost for the system+dock if bought separately.
This would be good choice as a 2nd Switch for parents with 2 or more children who each want their own Switch and can share a dock on a single TV.
Then buy a joy con bundle if you want to play Super Mario Party, problem solved.
I've suggested previously that surely any '-only' Switch would be home console-only, because that's the avenue through which there's money to be saved. There really wouldn't be *that* much difference between the handheld-only Switch and the current Switch in hardware terms, but a console-only unit wouldn't have to worry about form factor so there's a few more ways they could make things cheaper.
Since you seem to know so much about Nintendo's cost to manufacture, what would be the right price for just the Switch without those things?
I'd actually be all over that.
Pack in a pro controller and call it a day.
This is how a lot of tiered products work though.
ie. They make the least amount of money on the cheapest model well trying to upsell you on the more expensive models that has some extra overpriced accessories thrown in.
Also wouldn't this be a great product for someone looking for a second switch?
If they are making a switch that cannot be plugged into a TV.......why? Presumably you would still be able use the USB-C port to HDMI right?
Eh I doubt it. Breaks the switch concept. Maybe but I could see it having joy cons still but a smaller screen and circle pads, just no dock.
Even then, taking out dock doesn't really take much off the costs to make, reducing screen size would tho.
For PS4 and Xbox, they will both hit $199 this year. Xbox probably first with the rumored discless model at e3, Sony probably in September alongside a major game like Dreams or Tsushima
Excited to see if they make a 7nm super slim PS4 and how small it can get
Even then, taking out dock doesn't really take much off the costs to make, reducing screen size would tho.
For PS4 and Xbox, they will both hit $199 this year. Xbox probably first with the rumored discless model at e3, Sony probably in September alongside a major game like Dreams or Tsushima
Excited to see if they make a 7nm super slim PS4 and how small it can get
It would be much cheaper to produce than a portable-only version, for sure. You pick the dock, put a fan inside of it, a processor, a motherboard and call the day. High margin, low cost. The ideal product for any company.
I would really be surprised by this Switch theory. The problem with it is that it negates the core philosophy of the console and the design for its first party games: giving players a choice
It does cost more to Nintendo to push a new SKU without USB-C to TV than just keep scaling the production of the current Switch, but sell it in a package without the dock. A switch without joycon wouldn't be compatible with Nintendo Labo and make a mess; and I'd argue that Labo's target and heavy handle held users are in fact very near demographics
At retail, that's how it seems to work for a lot of things. I guess Nintendo could sell just the console for $250 and then say the $300 set provides the "value" of getting the other stuff at a reduced cost. Which wouldn't surprise me...
The same point of a 3DS without 3D. That is, being a cheaper option to diversify the appeal of the particular family of consoles.
Why wouldnt it? Having a split home/away system would make it alot easier to sell their subscription service. Plus it would be less hassle to "switch" if they were split anyway
EDIT: dammit missed the joke
This sums up my thoughts exactly. Seems more believable than a "Pro" version to me.
They certainly won't call it "Switch Something" because it wouldn't be switching anything. And releasing anything outside the Switch brand right now would be utterly dumb.
If the 3DS could originally output to a TV via it's power port, and then they made a cheaper option that couldn't, what would be the point of reconfigure the port to remove that feature? Seems like redesigning the output and power to not hook up to a TV would cost more than anything else.
These are predictions/guesses. Like the Wii HD. I don't think Pachter ever claims to be saying this based on any insider information.
He's getting insiders to actually share stuff that contradicts what he's saying, at least this time. So I guess this has been a useful thread.
A handheld-only Switch that's cheaper and smaller for kids would probably be good business. It could still probably be connected to a dock, it just wouldn't come with one and wouldn't slot in as elegantly.
Yeah but they're not worth anywhere near close to that. If Nintendo sells a standalone Switch for $100 less, they're going to be sold at a loss. Nintendo doesn't do that.
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