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Overwatch |OT2-2-2| Role With It
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I don't have many problems with the new healers. I'm pretty excited but 200 hp on the Invuln field seems insane.
Edit: It helps beat grav...so that's nice i guess. Also, so many DPS buff, may make Goats a little less prevalent or at least see more quad dps plays?
Edit: It helps beat grav...so that's nice i guess. Also, so many DPS buff, may make Goats a little less prevalent or at least see more quad dps plays?
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BTW, between a self healing ability, an immortality barrier, and a hitscan, high damage burstfire rifle, we have another healer that can go head to head with flanking Tracers.
AND IT WAS DONE WITHOUT CHEESING THE FUCK OUT OF THE PLAYERBASE, TAKE NOTE BLIZZARD
AND IT WAS DONE WITHOUT CHEESING THE FUCK OUT OF THE PLAYERBASE, TAKE NOTE BLIZZARD
Jeph is here
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internal playtesting suggests he'll fit in a main healer role
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internal playtesting suggests he'll fit in a main healer role
two-three weeks usually
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Oh wow, I knew the end of the season was soon but didn't realize it was this week. School has been kicking my ass and haven't played Overwatch, or any game, in like 2 weeks.
Played only 17 games this season, like 150 SR down from last season. RIP me.
Played only 17 games this season, like 150 SR down from last season. RIP me.
I wonder what healer will tend to be paired with Baptiste... Ana sems like she'd have some good synergy with him with her healing being projectile-based (and thus working with his ult) and her nade letting Baptise do some pretty major burst AOE heals (useful when everyone is clustered together in the immortality field at 40hp).
I wonder of Moira's healing ball and spray get amplified when thrown through Baptiste's ult.
They both have max damage/heal so wouldn't affect it to much.
Same goes for her drain beam and damage ball, really. I imagine the balls would be amplified, since they are projectiles of sorts, but the primary/secondary fire wouldn't? Do beam-like attacks get amplified?
Hey there!
Armor used to have a varying effect on damage over time and beam type weapons based on how damage instances were handled by the server (it's not the server tick rate, some weapons have different update rates).
This meant that Winston's primary fire would hit the maximum 50% damage reduction against armor because it had a faster damage update rate while Zarya's beam would lose a flat 15 damage per second (after the armor change from -5 damage per hit to -3).
So the general results after this patch are Winston's damage is increased against armor compared to before, Moira is about the same, Zarya and Symmetra are roughly the same at low charge and deal less damage to armor health pools than before while at high charge.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/these-patch-notes/308859/71
Armor used to have a varying effect on damage over time and beam type weapons based on how damage instances were handled by the server (it's not the server tick rate, some weapons have different update rates).
This meant that Winston's primary fire would hit the maximum 50% damage reduction against armor because it had a faster damage update rate while Zarya's beam would lose a flat 15 damage per second (after the armor change from -5 damage per hit to -3).
So the general results after this patch are Winston's damage is increased against armor compared to before, Moira is about the same, Zarya and Symmetra are roughly the same at low charge and deal less damage to armor health pools than before while at high charge.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/these-patch-notes/308859/71
Well it's not like Symmetra's pick rate was already low or something right
They can kill GOATs by nerfing the hero in your avatar to the ground.
Just a thought BTW. lol
The only way to kill GOATs is to stop multiple AOE healers from stacking their heals (or at least reduce the rate at which they heal).
Everything else that is commonly suggested, such as nerfing DVa's matrix, is a bandaid at best, and will push the respective characters into just getting replaced by a different character.
GOATs mainly works because of the massive area healing, not any singular ability.
Everything else that is commonly suggested, such as nerfing DVa's matrix, is a bandaid at best, and will push the respective characters into just getting replaced by a different character.
GOATs mainly works because of the massive area healing, not any singular ability.
Baptiste looks like a character built for me and I'm very happy
also glad I got back up to diamond before the season ends so I can buy his gold weapon if I choose to lol
also glad I got back up to diamond before the season ends so I can buy his gold weapon if I choose to lol
Or just force a 2-2-2 comp and balance the various game metas around that.
I guess that would work too, yeah. Though I feel it'd be a bit limiting.
Since we're mostly talking about Baptiste, we should probably look at some of hte other changes too.
This is good, but he's never gonna feel like his old self until he gets his SS distance back. Even after all these months, even though I don't play him too often, he feels wrong with the shorter distance he has now. But since he relies on his abilities, this will be easier for players good with him to get into a good groove.
Well, Nepenthe will be happy.
So they're still looking to make McCree a tank killer. Cool enough. Fan the Hammer now does as much damage as Pulse Bomb instead of more. Happy now, Chance ?
Hail Satan. I thinkthey need to make the walls 300 if they want to make breaking them a viable tactic, but I'm more surprised that they are thinking of the walls in this way now, after all this time. I was suggesting they should be more breakable back at the launch of the game, but I just assumed they were supposed to be all but unbreakable.
I'm honestly not sure if Moira is in a bad place in terms of giving health. My understanding that her issue comes down to having no utility like other healers. I guess this helps, but I'm not ure what changes with it, other than slightly more healing.
This is actually kinda big. Orisas that can chase you down around the corner can be kinda scary. I'm looking forward to a more mobile Orisa.
my beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world.
Very good. I had my reservations about the Torb rework, but I actually like it. However, the problem remains that Torb kinda sucks, but it's no longer a mechanical problem and is more of a numbers one, and this is a good step toward fixing it. I'd even go one step beyond and not remove the 50 armor from his overload, just make it his tank form.
It's no ping system, but this will help a lot for team coordination.
This is good, but he's never gonna feel like his old self until he gets his SS distance back. Even after all these months, even though I don't play him too often, he feels wrong with the shorter distance he has now. But since he relies on his abilities, this will be easier for players good with him to get into a good groove.
Well, Nepenthe will be happy.
So they're still looking to make McCree a tank killer. Cool enough. Fan the Hammer now does as much damage as Pulse Bomb instead of more. Happy now, Chance ?
Hail Satan. I thinkthey need to make the walls 300 if they want to make breaking them a viable tactic, but I'm more surprised that they are thinking of the walls in this way now, after all this time. I was suggesting they should be more breakable back at the launch of the game, but I just assumed they were supposed to be all but unbreakable.
I'm honestly not sure if Moira is in a bad place in terms of giving health. My understanding that her issue comes down to having no utility like other healers. I guess this helps, but I'm not ure what changes with it, other than slightly more healing.
This is actually kinda big. Orisas that can chase you down around the corner can be kinda scary. I'm looking forward to a more mobile Orisa.
my beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world.
Very good. I had my reservations about the Torb rework, but I actually like it. However, the problem remains that Torb kinda sucks, but it's no longer a mechanical problem and is more of a numbers one, and this is a good step toward fixing it. I'd even go one step beyond and not remove the 50 armor from his overload, just make it his tank form.
It's no ping system, but this will help a lot for team coordination.
To be honest I didn't know they weren't counting, so uh...
Thanks Blizzard. *shrug*
I'll cosign this as an annoying sentiment considering the variation of the launch cast. The point of the game is to have a range of skill sets and kits. If I wanted to play a more traditional FPS, I would literally just play Blops 3 forever. It feels better than the gunplay in Overwatch anyway.
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His ult is literally useless for goats. Only Zen, Lucio, and Zarya's right click can benefit. Invincibility has less utility when you're in either a A) all-out close range brawl or B) trying to quickly move towards the enemy. Furthermore, invincibility is better used on squishy DPS heroes who can melt the enemies given just a few more seconds of damage output and survivability.
His main heal and ability heal are good for goats, though.
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I know the feeling bro. My mechanical skills on controller is plat at best and I will prolly get fucked once I move to K&M but I do understand why they love Ana. I have close to 200 hours on Moira and there are times where I just feel sick of picking her. She can be so unfun after some time due to her being heal heal and more heal at higher elo. Compared to Ana's kit of sleep + nade which are super strong and how like Mercy work super well in dive maps I get why she is more valuable.
Baptiste replacing the healer that isn't Lucio/Brig in the GOATs lineup, the invul drone can be thrown across the fucking map, which would allow to help the frontliners to stall or negate ult combos like Grav + DVa bomb, I think. Baptiste can phase forward and back between frontline healing with his self heal and backlining with his grenades and primary fire. The ult may not be super useful, but for the purpose of safety and ult negation, his drone is about as good as Zen using Trans, and also has the upside of having much lower cooldown, and Baptiste having the mobility to get away should the opponent try to have a flanker or a DVa or Winston trying to get him in the backline, while a Zen would just melt or need to get peeled.
Unlike Zen, Baptiste doesn't need nearly as much babysitting while providing somewhat similar utility with the drone, but without needing to ult. The only downside is that Zen can help do more damage with his Discord, but on the other hand, with Baptiste healing alongside Lucio and Brigitte, you also have a LOT more survivability.
I suppose the other thing of note to figure out will also be how fast you can take down the immortality field since it does seem l
Honestly, that is probably what I found to be the most hilarious about these recent patch notes.
We know that GOATs is the most hated thing by everyone whether if you're playing it or watching it. It also consists of six specific heroes: D.Va, Reinhardt, Zarya, Zenyatta, and Lúcio (And then it is a split between Moira and Brigitte too, but you get the idea).
And which characters did not see any balance changes at all? D.Va, Reinhardt, Zarya, Zenyatta, and Lúcio (And while Brigitte didn't see any changes either, Moira got a slight buff, but it isn't like that is going to make the comp even more OP than it currently is). It is almost like Blizzard is too afraid to touch any of these heroes for whatever reason since I guess they consider these six (or seven) to be "Balanced" well enough even though when they are played together in that specific comp, it can bring games down to a grinding halt.
Honestly, that is probably what I found to be the most hilarious about these recent patch notes.
We know that GOATs is the most hated thing by everyone whether if you're playing it or watching it. It also consists of six specific heroes: D.Va, Reinhardt, Zarya, Zenyatta, and Lúcio (And then it is a split between Moira and Brigitte too, but you get the idea).
And which characters did not see any balance changes at all? D.Va, Reinhardt, Zarya, Zenyatta, and Lúcio (And while Brigitte didn't see any changes either, Moira got a slight buff, but it isn't like that is going to make the comp even more OP than it currently is). It is almost like Blizzard is too afraid to touch any of these heroes for whatever reason since I guess they consider these six (or seven) to be "Balanced" well enough even though when they are played together in that specific comp, it can bring games down to a grinding halt.
I'm limited to 60 FPS in PTR, is this a known issue?
Baptiste can both hurt and help goats.
Yes, but all of this benefits a bunker comp more than goats, who can now survive a 3-3 rushdown and have the damage output to fight back.
Baptiste can both hurt and help goats.
D.va recently got nerfed though and sometimes she get swapped with Sombra or even Ashe (Bob lol).
It's all about ults and how tanky everyone is with AOE healing/shields/armor. Finding a solution to this either means forcing 2-2-2 or nerfing ults to the ground.
It's all about ults and how tanky everyone is with AOE healing/shields/armor. Finding a solution to this either means forcing 2-2-2 or nerfing ults to the ground.
YES. Now I don't have to worry about getting popped out of my ball when someone targets me in Deathmatch when all I want to do is roll around.
Messed around with Baptiste a little on the PTR, he seems fun and the immortality shield is not nearly as troublesome and one might think. I think he's gonna be an interesting character, I kinda like him but I think my go-to healer choice will probably still be Lucio or Brig. His kit takes a little getting used to and I really like the implementation of the Exo Boots.
Also, as a random side note, there's a special level of Hell that's dedicated to people who go onto the PTR and choose to play BASTION when a new character has just been released.
Also, as a random side note, there's a special level of Hell that's dedicated to people who go onto the PTR and choose to play BASTION when a new character has just been released.
Another update on Sym, if you start on Armor targets it could actually work out better.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/symmetra-ptr-nerfs/309002/134
Oh my god someone asked about symm and they answered THE SAME DAY? Is thats how viability in OWL feels like?(i mean i also play lucio but he's spoiled so it'a a different feeling)
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