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Overwatch Developer Update | Experimentation & Hero Pools
- Thread starter Solidsnakejej
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Balance updates more frequently and you can test out changes if you're on console
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Ehhhh? Seems weird to me, wouldn't Experimental card just become the new Quickplay? Cause if you are serious you would play the Competitive/ranked game-modes, if you aren't you'd might as well play on the "newest" stuff. You still level up and such.
Do you play ranked as a causal player? If no, it doesn't, if yes, you will be limited in your selections from week to week.
It doesn't if you don't play competitive. Only thing is that the PTR (testing of hero changes) will be available on console now.
Tell that to the top tier pharah players that have to switch off when Ashe/Mcree/Bap/Soldier show up
...It happens all the time.
Not enough of them...
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Yep, tell that to support and tank players. Genji blade team kills every other fight but can't get a defensive ult.
the impact of hero pools will depend on how they restrict tanks and supports since there are fewer of them than there are DPS
i know for a fact that many people who play tank or support only play ONE of those heroes in that role. So if DVA is banned for the week goodbye to that player queueing tank for that week.
i know for a fact that many people who play tank or support only play ONE of those heroes in that role. So if DVA is banned for the week goodbye to that player queueing tank for that week.
You are confusing how the game is played with how people who are bad at the game play.
Or the classic reaper counter pick against beefy tanks. Clearly that poster has no idea what they speak of
They didn't have enough characters to force role queues either, yet here we are. Tanks get forced in to one of 2 tank setups or get blamed for everything. Healers get it a little better, they at least have more room to play different types of healers.
lmao
Yes, "save us," unreleased video game that has very different gameplay.
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Now if people can't play their hard-countered main because of pool ban, they'll either be forced to learn new characters and not be a drain on team resources, or drop out for a week, and either option is the fucking tits. If you can't handle the enemy playing a hero that counters you because you can't play anything else, go soft throw in arcade because you shouldn't be in comp lol
in OWL it will be 1 tank, 2 dps, 1 support. Probably the same in ranked.
Looking forward to hero pools in OWL. Would suck to see great players sidelined because their best characters were off-meta.
Also looking forward to more request updates. Try crazy shit Jeff. If it sucks, just roll it back. We'll survive.
Also looking forward to more request updates. Try crazy shit Jeff. If it sucks, just roll it back. We'll survive.
They want the meta shaken up? Then they need to introduce heroes that do that. Artificially changing the way metas are solved or how the game is played proves that these developers have zero idea wtf to do. Heroes and metas getting stale? Introduce a hero that can delete geometry/walls. Too op? Doesn't matter, because the next hero is like Rubick and can steal your last used ability. Too strong? The next hero can make themselves look like the enemy team. Etc etc. But the FEAR of upsetting the top .1% of players because of "muh balance" keeps the game fucking stale and boring as shit and leaves these kind of opportunities where blizzard has to step in and be like "see? We're doing something!!"
btw the fact they haven't added an ability stealing hero yet says more than enough. Too scared to add anything interesting into the game.
btw the fact they haven't added an ability stealing hero yet says more than enough. Too scared to add anything interesting into the game.
im ok with pools but 1 tank 1 heal and 2 dps off the chart? I know theres around 29 heores in the game but damn I thought it would be more interesting with 50% hero pool lol
If you only play QP like me, it doesn't.
Experimental Card, on the other hand, is like a mini PTR that will be available on the main client.
It doesn't, as long as you know how to play more than one character in each class. Or just more than one character.
Designing characters purely to "shake up the meta" is literally Brigitte and it was one of the worst things they did to the game at all levels before they basically remade her.
The way I see it, people who are against hero pools in comp are one-trick ponies who are unable to play other heroes. I think this is a great way to finally kill the issue of constant overwhelming metas that abuse game balance. Plus, I can't think of a single reason that encouraging players to learn how to use more than one hero is a bad thing.
I would be pretty neutral on hero pools if there weren't a role queue that basically forced every flex player to either wait 10 minutes or play a tank because everyone thinks tanks are the most boring role. But to now have 2 no-fun-allowed walls is really testing my willpower.
I wish there were better competitors to OW because no other FPS scratches this specific itch I need once or twice a week.
I wish there were better competitors to OW because no other FPS scratches this specific itch I need once or twice a week.
Or maybe people who want to have fun with the game playing the champion they actually like.
Nothing to do with one tricks. Hero pools is such a shitty way to force a meta change. Properly adjust heroes and introduce interesting heroes to let the meta change normally.
Stop making sense and being reasonable.
Hero pools will simultaneously kill counter-picking because there's not enough characters, yet at the same time force certain players to skip the game for a week because they can't play the 1 character they're good at...instead of you know...counter picking to another character. For. One. Week.
lol ok have fun pretending every single competitive game you play online is a qualifier for some huge tourney instead of just being a vessel for IDK FUN? The best pvp games in the history of video games had balance issues. Trying to make a perfectly balanced game leads to OVERWATCH the stale ass boring dead game.
So let's say you have an AMAZING Mercy player (gasp!) who you regularly queue up with, and you both have a great win rate. Said Mercy gets locked for not being the flavor of the week. The solution here is to force said player, who is nowhere near as good with the other healers, into playing the other healers because 'reasons'.
How the hell does this help your team in anyway? I'd rather have a team that's amazing at there chosen heroes, rather than artificially locking them out. Might as well integrate Mystery Heroes into Comp at this point.
How the hell does this help your team in anyway? I'd rather have a team that's amazing at there chosen heroes, rather than artificially locking them out. Might as well integrate Mystery Heroes into Comp at this point.
This is why Jeff made it very clear that this only affects competitive. You are absolutely free to play that hero in literally every other game mode. I don't see the issue.
If people are mad about hero pools, imagine those same people loading into a match after queuing for 10 minutes only to have their pick get banned by the other team.
Just dont play that week, they wont ban a hero two week in a row so this change fixes nothing in the long run :)))
I'm surprised that they didn't do Experimentation sooner. Seems like a better way of testing balance changes, especially since it also involves PS4/XB1/Switch players.
Okay, that's somewhat reasonable. I was worried about the impact of hero bans on Supports & Tanks.
I have a feeling we won't get any new characters until Overwatch 2.
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Jeff Kaplan reasoning against Hero Bans
That wouldn't happen though.
They'd just pick attack Torb and throw.